How did we lose to the 49ers? Just fucking despicable. Stop the run, they don’t have shit outside that. Fail on MLF for a shitty game plan, fail on AR for locking into one receiver the whole game.
@Harry Manback posted:How did we lose to the 49ers? Just fucking despicable. Stop the run, they don’t have shit outside that. Fail on MLF for a shitty game plan, fail on AR for locking into one receiver the whole game.
Fail on Maurice Drayton as well.
@Geaux-Packers posted:Because there are other receivers catching balls. OBJ… the running back..
their no-name tight end is having a career day.
degurea dropped everything thrown to him in the divisional game.
Blanton was huge today.
@MichiganPacker posted:So, the last two teams that wen to the Super Bowl from the NFC went all in?
But, but, but do the Bucs and now Rams have their potential QBs of the future lined up?
And LA violated the Packer draft and develop above all else commandment by trading multiple 1st round picks for Ramsey & Stafford.
And 2nd and 3rd rounders for Von Miller?
Just ridiculous roster building.
The Rams, Bucs and other teams may get to and even win Super Bowls, but the Pack gots all of our picks plus a couple in the upcoming draft, so we will remain competitive, which is the real goal, right?
And say, we have won 8 of the last 11 NFC North Titles donchya know.
Quick, when is the last time the Pack traded a round 1-5 draft pick for a player?
@Harry Manback posted:How did we lose to the 49ers? Just fucking despicable. Stop the run, they don’t have shit outside that. Fail on MLF for a shitty game plan, fail on AR for locking into one receiver the whole game.
A lot of blame to go around.
Obviously, special teams
Fail on MLF for activating guys that shouldn't have been on the field (Alexander whiffed on the key run by Samuel because he couldn't tackle with his right shoulder.
Fail on Stenavich/MLF for playing the wrong guys on the OL.
Fail on the front office for not going anything to add guys in the off-season and during the year.
Fail on the FO for the 2017 draft and for using their 1st, 3rd, and 4th round picks in 2020 on a QB that wouldn't play for three years and a TE that can't catch.
A TE that can run just a little bit & a QB willing to throw it to him really hurt the 49ers
@Harry Manback posted:How did we lose to the 49ers? Just fucking despicable. Stop the run, they don’t have shit outside that. Fail on MLF for a shitty game plan, fail on AR for locking into one receiver the whole game.
It was all special teams. They gave up 3 points on a FG, gave the Niners their only touchdown of the game, and gave the Niners offense an average of +15 yards starting position per drive versus the Packers.
@Harry Manback posted:How did we lose to the 49ers? Just fucking despicable. Stop the run, they don’t have shit outside that. Fail on MLF for a shitty game plan, fail on AR for locking into one receiver the whole game.
The Rams D gave up 17 points to SF tonight.
The GB D gave up 6 to SF last Saturday.
Rodge was not good in the loss.
The Green Bay Packers Special Teams Unit was other-worldy awful and not even the biggest MLF and FRONT OFFICE cheerleaders should pretend otherwise.
I laughed when they showed Shanahan not even looking at the FG that put LA up 23-20 with less than 2 minutes to go, because he was already preparing to be down.
In GB, that was a 50-50 proposition.
@MichiganPacker posted:A lot of blame to go around.
Obviously, special teams
Fail on MLF for activating guys that shouldn't have been on the field (Alexander whiffed on the key run by Samuel because he couldn't tackle with his right shoulder.
Fail on Stenavich/MLF for playing the wrong guys on the OL.
Fail on the front office for not going anything to add guys in the off-season and during the year.
Fail on the FO for the 2017 draft and for using their 1st, 3rd, and 4th round picks in 2020 on a QB that wouldn't play for three years and a TE that can't catch.
Fail on Rodgers, too.
@4 Favre posted:And he may have already re-signed something more cap friendly if his dreamer GM didn't trade up to waste a 1st round pick on his replacement!
Isn't OBJ's cap number like barely over a million for the Rams this year. Surely, they could have made that work.
But yeah realistically he probably just found living in LA more appealing.
For what they paid OBJ, he didn’t respond with performance to equal that contract. He’s no better than Cobb or Lazard who was open for the win last week. And he’s a piece of shit which Cobb and Lazard are not. Fuck OBJ. He can suck it after the Lambs lose in the SB. Go Bungles!
@The Pepper Assassin posted:It's times like these, I'm glad I live in San Francisco. I get to bask in the glory of all the long faces coming out of the bars.
...and stepping in human feces and discarded syringes? 
@SteveLuke posted:The Rams, Bucs and other teams may get to and even win Super Bowls, but the Pack gots all of our picks plus a couple in the upcoming draft, so we will remain competitive, which is the real goal, right?
And say, we have won 8 of the last 11 NFC North Titles donchya know.
Quick, when is the last time the Pack traded a round 1-5 draft pick for a player?
I'll have to look up that last question.
You are right, the goal of the Packer FO is sustained success as judged by making the playoffs. They'd rather make the playoffs 80% of the time over a decade and not get to a Super Bowl than risk being bad 3-4 years from now and improve their chances at a Super Bowl.
The FO thought they were "good enough" to win a Super Bowl and maybe they were, but you can always add players to make good enough even better, but it costs you being able to pick in the 2nd or 3rd round in 2023.
@Harry Manback posted:For what they paid OBJ, he didn’t respond with performance to equal that contract. He’s no better than Cobb or Lazard who was open for the win last week. And he’s a piece of shit which Cobb and Lazard are not. Fuck OBJ. He can suck it after the Lambs lose in the SB. Go Bungles!
The Rams aren't losing in the Super Bowl. The Bengals may have the worst offensive line of any team that's made the Super Bowl in years. Aaron Donald and Von Miller may kill Burrow.
A certain QB from Atlanta comes to mind that cost a high pick.
And why is Drayton still breathing in the GB air? MLF? WTF? Packers fans are going to lose a lot of respect for MLF if he doesn’t get rid of Mo. With good reason.
This game was a lot of bad football and one team came out ahead.
@MichiganPacker posted:A lot of blame to go around.
Obviously, special teams
Fail on MLF for activating guys that shouldn't have been on the field (Alexander whiffed on the key run by Samuel because he couldn't tackle with his right shoulder.
Fail on Stenavich/MLF for playing the wrong guys on the OL.
Fail on the front office for not going anything to add guys in the off-season and during the year.
Fail on the FO for the 2017 draft and for using their 1st, 3rd, and 4th round picks in 2020 on a QB that wouldn't play for three years and a TE that can't catch.
Team effort
Watching bits and pieces of the games this weekend, just makes me realize how badly we got outcoached and outplayed at the QB position. MLF is no longer the Golden boy, and shouldn’t be. Not firing Drayton, when he should have, months ago was a huge mistake. World we have been better at ST? Maybe, but we’re couldn’t get any worse. You bench players when they don’t perform, how are the players looking at the coaches when that aren’t held accountable? No Drayton should have been there first firing announced after the last game. Nothing yet. I don’t blame Gutey, we had more than enough talent to win the SB on paper. MILF, Drayton and AR were there fails.
Will be interesting to see if the Ram’s strategy to give up draft picks instead of drafting and developing works to win a SB.
The Rams took a cue from the LA Dodgers and went all-in in to buy a championship. Well, so far so good.
Just glad they beat the Niners.
Good ol’ Jimmy G trying to make a play at end. Lolz 😂
Yeah, I knew it was going to be a Rams win when it was up to Jimmy G. Just makes me mad we lost such an inferior QB.
I think the Rams success is a lot more smoke-and-mirrors than it is good, solid football.
However, I think they demonstrate how teams that are not perfect can win in the playoffs, and sometimes, it's better to be lucky than good.
Packers had the talent to win the game. They lost because the MVP QB and the special teams both shit the bed.
As a long-time Stafford skeptic I have to give him credit: he made the plays when needed. Playoffs have always been about your best players making plays with the game on the line. Packers are watching because theirs didn't.
Well, luck matters too
If the SF doesn’t drop an easy INT in the 4Q it might have turned out differently
But was that luck? How many times did we see DB's drop INT's this post season. Is it also luck that Garappolo wasn't picked off about a dozen more times the last 3 weeks? It's guys not making plays when they need to. I don't know that you can call that luck/unlucky.
@michiganjoe posted:Packers had the talent to win the game. They lost because the MVP QB and the special teams both shit the bed.
As a long-time Stafford skeptic I have to give him credit: he made the plays when needed. Playoffs have always been about your best players making plays with the game on the line. Packers are watching because theirs didn't.
They level they shit the bed was amazing considering that the Packers should have beaten both of those teams that played yesterday. They have no excuses whatsoever for not getting it done this year.
I also have never been a big fan of Stafford because he never got it done in big spots before yesterday.
@michiganjoe posted:Packers had the talent to win the game. They lost because the MVP QB and the special teams both shit the bed.
As a long-time Stafford skeptic I have to give him credit: he made the plays when needed. Playoffs have always been about your best players making plays with the game on the line. Packers are watching because theirs didn't.
Was thinking watching this came regarding AR and the whole "trust his receivers" thing. Higbee gets hurt early so they have to play Blanton who in the regular season had a whopping 3 catches for 31 yards ....so you would think that Stafford wouldn't even look at him ....but he has 5 catches for 57 yards. As I've said in other posts ; you throw to the guy that is open.
Deguara being a good example of that. I've seen a lot of people citing his drop as justification of AR not going to him but that's nonsense. He was wide open on the play where AR forced a bad ball to Cobb that should have been picked.
One thing we didn’t see yesterday was any particular team have a complete meltdown on special teams like the Pack did. There’s a chance the Packers would have lost even if that unit was ordinary, but it really puts the Pack on their heels trying to work around that horrific weakness.
@fightphoe93 posted:One thing we didn’t see yesterday was any particular team have a complete meltdown on special teams like the Pack did. There’s a chance the Packers would have lost even if that unit was ordinary, but it really puts the Pack on their heels trying to work around that horrific weakness.
And it was a huge problem all year and couldn't have possibly been handled any worse than it was.
@michiganjoe posted:Deguara being a good example of that. I've seen a lot of people citing his drop as justification of AR not going to him but that's nonsense. He was wide open on the play where AR forced a bad ball to Cobb that should have been picked.
Some (not all) of interpreting this is what DeGuara looks like in practice. Does he drop passes all the time in practice too, or is he at least average.
Of course, maybe participating in OTAs and getting a few hundred extra reps would help build some chemistry (instead of galavanting around Hawaii with your fiancé during that time).
@FLPACKER posted:Was thinking watching this came regarding AR and the whole "trust his receivers" thing. Higbee gets hurt early so they have to play Blanton who in the regular season had a whopping 3 catches for 31 yards ....so you would think that Stafford wouldn't even look at him ....but he has 5 catches for 57 yards. As I've said in other posts ; you throw to the guy that is open.
This is how the Chiefs lost. After that botched TD try before the half, Mahomes never tried to throw to the open receiver, kept trying to dance around in the pocket and go hero ball. Here's his QB Rating between halves:
1st half: 149.9
2nd half: 0
You actually have to TRY to get zero. You get 20 just for stepping on the field. There was talk this season when the Chiefs were struggling that Mahomes wasn't taking what the def was giving him. That he was dancing around playing hero ball too much. He did that the entire 2nd half and blew a 21-3 lead and lost.
It seems to me the QB's that have success are the ones that play within their system and don't try to think they know better.
@MichiganPacker posted:Some (not all) of interpreting this is what DeGuara looks like in practice. Does he drop passes all the time in practice too, or is he at least average.
Of course, maybe participating in OTAs and getting a few hundred extra reps would help build some chemistry (instead of galavanting around Hawaii with your fiancé during that time).
Good points- Deguara looks absolutely awful as a receiver but Lazard and ESB were getting open and being ignored at times as welll....
@vitaflo posted:This is how the Chiefs lost. After that botched TD try before the half, Mahomes never tried to throw to the open receiver, kept trying to dance around in the pocket and go hero ball. Here's his QB Rating between halves:
1st half: 149.9
2nd half: 0
You actually have to TRY to get zero. You get 20 just for stepping on the field. There was talk this season when the Chiefs were struggling that Mahomes wasn't taking what the def was giving him. That he was dancing around playing hero ball too much. He did that the entire 2nd half and blew a 21-3 lead and lost.
It seems to me the QB's that have success are the ones that play within their system and don't try to think they know better.
Sort of. CIN also made some great halftime adjustments. This is the critical one:
.@Bengals @chiefs and the 2nd half adjustments came on 2nd down . They dropped an end (usually @Sam_Hubbard_ ) and rushed only 3 making Mahomes hold the ball while the DB’s plastered the receivers. Chiefs were terrible on 2nd down in the 2nd half. #whodey #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/HCJJoLtrha
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) January 31, 2022
I've never seen a QB turn his back to his receivers like Mahomes. It's one thing to scramble around look for a guy to throw it to but he looks like Charlie Chaplin back there.
@DH13 posted:Sort of. CIN also made some great halftime adjustments. This is the critical one:
.@Bengals @chiefs and the 2nd half adjustments came on 2nd down . They dropped an end (usually @Sam_Hubbard_ ) and rushed only 3 making Mahomes hold the ball while the DB’s plastered the receivers. Chiefs were terrible on 2nd down in the 2nd half. #whodey #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/HCJJoLtrha
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) January 31, 2022
Wish we made halftime adjustments....
There is another good breakdown from cbs sports on CIN's second half adjustment. Mahomes wasn't holding the ball in an effort to play hero ball. CIN was rushing 3 and dropping 8 along with mixing up some looks and simulated pressure to confuse Mahomes and clog the throwing lanes.