Official 2016 NFL Draft Thread

Don't forget to write the Culinary Institute.

He doesn't look draftable.

DH13 posted:

I can't get the idea of a WR at #27 out of my head.   Would be very unexpected of TT, which is fairly common for him.  He may have looked at last year's situation at WR as a warning about what can happen to AR and the O without a guy like Nelson.  Jordy only has a few years of being Jordy left.  I would think he could draft that guy in 2017 but if somebody like Treadwell or Doctson is there at 27....

I still think he goes DL or LB at 27 but that's based on what little I know.

I doubt he'll go receiver. I don't think there are any worth even close to the pick with the exception of Treadwell, who should be gone. 

DH13 posted:

I can't get the idea of a WR at #27 out of my head.   Would be very unexpected of TT, which is fairly common for him.  He may have looked at last year's situation at WR as a warning about what can happen to AR and the O without a guy like Nelson.  Jordy only has a few years of being Jordy left.  I would think he could draft that guy in 2017 but if somebody like Treadwell or Doctson is there at 27....

I still think he goes DL or LB at 27 but that's based on what little I know.

Obviously anything could happen but I'd be very shocked by a WR in the first or second.  They only have room on the roster for 6 guys and if he takes one early, that means a guy like Janis or Abbrederis is gone (Nelson, Cobb, Adams, Montgomery, Janis/Abbrederis, and drafted player).  Does cutting one of thos two and replacing him with a guy like Fuller or Doctson improve this team?  Maybe but not by much.  I think TT is going to chalk up the WR failures last year to injury.  Nelson out the full year, Adams in and out of the lineup, season ender for Montgomery, and the early injury to Cobb probably affected him more than we know.  That's a lot of issues for a WR group to handle.  

I would be shocked with anything other than a front 7 player, unless one of the top guys falls.  OT is a possibility too but those guys are as overdrafted as QBs and based on recent mocks, it's happening again with 4 OTs in the top 20 (Tunsil, Stanley, Conklin, and Decker.  I've even seen Spriggs up there).  Guess we'll find out tomorrow.......

To me I get the sense that TT approaches the 1st round (maybe the whole draft) with the thought process: what CAN'T I get later. I think back to when Edna Lacy was drafted, he could have taken her at 55 but seemed to trade back knowing he could still get her later..."I can take Lacy at 55 or I can take Lacy + a 6th rounder at 61". When I look at pick 27, I think about what TT CAN'T get later. He could get a good WR like Braxton Miller or Sterling Shepard in r2 or good developmental Tackle like Joe Haeg in r3. He CAN'T get a pass rusher like Noah Spence or a complete ILB like Ragland later, he CAN'T get a versatile DL with upside like Jon Bullard or Vernon Butler later. 

I see what you did there.

I think Bullard is around for quite a while in round 2. Butler, Billings, Clark, Reed. It's one of those guys. Unless Reggie slides just enough. 

I agree, if Ragland isn't there, TT may think he could get nearly as good a Dlineman in 2nd or 3rd round as in First & go edge rusher or oline in the First

Or go away?

I'd scalp a ticket to see Ragland. 

May I suggest starting a new thread Thursday?
Either save this one for the pissing matches, or lock it. It's hopelessly mucked.

I think GD meant Edie.  Edie.

A trade out seems fairly possible also. A team who wants that fifth year on a rookie QB may also have to trade ahead of AZ and Denver. I could see Denver also trading up just a bit to get Cook.    

Ragland can cover well enough IMO. His football IQ and instincts are high enough that he gets to where he needs to be in time. I think the big struggle a lot of players have in coverage is not that they're too slow, it's that they're a step slow reading the play and can't make up the ground. Guys like Ragland, who have a natural feel for timing and the defensive concepts, get to where the need to be in time regardless of their 40 time. 

My final round 1 projection (with trades):

Laremy Tunsil falling to the Saints?  I've been out of the country for the last 10 days but caught up on a lot of draft news, but what's the rationale for him dropping?  I figure his basement is #6 to Baltimore.  If not, Bucs and Giants have to take him, right?  

Everything else makes a ton of sense.  I don't agree with the picks, necessarily, but that's more personal preference.  I'm not high on guys like Lee, Fuller, Nkemdiche, but can definitely see them getting picked there.  

I think the Packers are in a great spot in this draft.  Ragland doesn't make sense to me in the teens but IMO, is great value at #27.  If he's Des Bishop 2.0 (ie: run stuffer and blitzer, limited in coverage), I'd be ecstatic.  I also really like the DT's that will be there: Billings, Jones, Bullard, Butler and the Bama guys (although they might be gone).  Plus, at the rate QB's are rising, Packers could easily trade back 5-8 spots and still get one of those guys.  Nice position to be in.  

oldschool posted:

The more you show your CD...the higher the score...the more I win.

Are you drunk? You clearly are not winning.

Still no answer... not surprised.

Hey,  hey!  Let's tone down the Irish slurs already.

Thanks!  

Keep on learnin' yourself up on Psychology 101 and basic math and you too can make it to can make it  to . . . wherever the **** you think you made it to.  

I don't think it's so much that Tunsil is dropping as much as other guys are rising. Baltimore makes sense, but there has been some talk that Baltimore is hot after Bosa and San Fran is hot after Stanley. Theres a better chance it's all smoke and Tunsil is off the board early, but Im gonna go out on a limb and say he drops a little.

At one point I thought there was no way that Ragland would drop to us, but I have become more optimistic that he will.  

Ragland will be there, I believe, but will TT be able to resist some of the DL help he needs?

I refuse to allow myself to believe Ragland will fall to 27. Not after CJ Mosley ripped my f***ing heart out two years ago. Damn you CJ!!!!!!

He won't be there.  I think everyone else is going to be thinking they can grab decent DL help later because it is so deep.  Seeing players like Mosley and Shazier perform so well early on someone is going to jump on him.

All I know is I don't know and Uncle Ted may get squirrelly.

 

.there is a war in his head.

 

 

Which side is winning?  

I'm guessing it's over possession of fantasy rights.   Left Brain and Right Brain can usually sort this out but neither wants to surrender the one where I'm Isaac from Love Boat explaining fractals to a half naked Hedy Lamarr.    

This thread has gone so far beyond going for 2 that I don't know what 2 looks like anymore.

Oh, and to keep on point Reggie Ragland is doing the Dougie in the background.

McGinn concludes his draft positional previews with specialists.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports...460z1-377326081.html

http://www.jsonline.com/sports...458z1-377318981.html

Any subsequent posts from oldschool in this thread will be deleted.

Thanks for keeping us on point cuqui

All this talk of wide receivers and tight ends? Which is it? It can't be both.

Little Tony Moll story:

The landscape had changed dramatically by 2006. The NFL draft wasn’t a primetime show yet, but it had grown into a true media colossus, with wall-to-wall TV coverage, miles of action footage and Mel Kiper Jr. blabbering endlessly.

And yet Moll, who attended Sonoma Valley High, had little idea of his prospects. He had mostly played tight end at the University of Nevada, but switched to offensive tackle for his senior season. He was not invited to the NFL scouting combine, though his athleticism had made a few teams take notice.

Moll knew he had no chance to be drafted in the first three rounds, so he didn’t pay much attention on Day 1. He had trouble sleeping that night, though, knowing Day 2 was a possibility. Moll woke up to the buzzing of his cell phone. Dallas Cowboys offensive line coach Tony Sparano was calling.

“He started talking really fast, like, ‘We’re gonna take you right away!’ ” Moll said. “A surge of emotion came over me. Is this a dream? What’s going on?”

Sparano asked Moll what he was doing up so early, and the big lineman, still half-asleep, repeated the first idea that popped into his mind: He was getting ready to go fishing.

“It was the only thing I could think of,” said Moll, 32, who is back in Sonoma and working as a mortgage banker with Pinnacle Capital Mortgage. “Now am I a football player who’s more interested in fishing than the draft?”

Whatever the reason, the Cowboys did not draft Moll in the fourth round. Or the fifth. He sat in his parents’ home in Sonoma and waited.

“Nate Burleson, who was a standout wide receiver at Nevada, I remember talking to him previously,” Moll recounted. “He said, ‘I fell asleep on the couch.’ For some reason, I had that stuck in my head. All day long I was glued to the TV, trying to figure out, ‘OK, they’re taking an O-lineman,’ or whatever. Of course, I fell asleep on the couch.

Again Moll was rousted in a fog. This time it was Packers offensive line coach Joe Philbin on the line. The next thing Moll knew, he was talking to Green Bay head coach Mike McCarthy and watching his name crawl across the bottom of the screen.

“Then my whole life changed,” Moll said.

He would make the Green Bay roster as a low fifth-round pick, start 10 games and block for Brett Favre as a rookie, and play six seasons with the Packers, Ravens and Chargers.”

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/s...g-to-join?artslide=0

oldschool posted:

Hungry5 posted:

oldschool posted:

The more you show your CD...the higher the score...the more I win.

Are you drunk? You clearly are not winning.

Still no answer... not surprised.

It's a bitch when you battle massive Cognitive Dissonance in your own head.

And that lady's and gentlemen is your 2 pt. dagger.

8-0  

Hello...all you have to do ...is let it go. 

I forgive you. 

You forgive me? For what?

As for your CD comments... I don't think you know what that means.

Still no answer... not surprised.

Hungry.

Just be glad he didn't shut this place down like he threatened to.

Imagine having to hang out at Packer Chatters.

And what's the deal with him and all the white women in his avatar?

That's gotta be racist.

Except to Goalline.

oldschool posted:

Hungry5 posted:

oldschool posted:

The more you show your CD...the higher the score...the more I win.

Are you drunk? You clearly are not winning.

Still no answer... not surprised.

It's a bitch when you battle massive Cognitive Dissonance in your own head.

And that lady's and gentlemen is your 2 pt. dagger.

8-0  

Hello...all you have to do ...is let it go. 

I forgive you. 

 

I' m thinking here that the "oldschool" user-name refers to the good old days of the NFL in the 1950s or 60s. Well, if that is the case the good old days  with the likes of Paul Brown and Lombardi were as politically correct as todays NFL. Hell, Lombardi even had a gay brother so no players were allowed to question another teammates sexuality or his heritage or you were through with Lombardi.  Your questioning of Lacy was way beyond what Lombardi would have tolerated. So, why don't you just go back to running your casino, drinking your fire water and spearing walleyes and leave the football talk to those who know football.  

DH13 posted:

That's "Hedley"! 

Guys, there's no point in blocking a thread hijacker if you  keep quoting him. I don't have any time for attention whores. You know, I don't find this stuff amusing anymore (name the song). It's a game nobody wins, so I don't play. I'm here for Packer football.

I like this draft. I think we get a defensive starter at 27 and another (either DL or LB) day 2.  Can't wait, though I'll be working until 10 Thursday night. Would not be surprised by three bruisers (2 DT and 1 LT)

Mayock mock. 

hof1991 posted:

Guys, there's no point in blocking a thread hijacker if you  keep quoting him. I don't have any time for attention whores. You know, I don't find this stuff amusing anymore (name the song). It's a game nobody wins, so I don't play. I'm here for Packer football.

 

Voice of reason

McGinn predicts Packer selection and does a first round mock.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports...824z1-377378711.html

http://www.jsonline.com/sports...826z1-377378741.html

Nobody wins?  Oldschool is winning like 11-0.

Interesting what McGinn says about DL, BUT if TT has a couple earmarked for the later rounds, he may still grab Ragland.