Official 2020 Draft Thread

And the future QB.

Chongo posted:

Needs...

WR, ILB, OL, DT

yep.  the order may go to bpa, but ya, that's the weaknesses...i would start drafting at least 2 qb's every year from now until 12 retires.

Draft is in Vegas this year. Wonder how it will work out? Hopefully get to see the new stadium. 

Definitely more help on LoS. Both sides of the ball. 

BPA, every round.  Other than edge and RB every position truly can use a boost.  Unless they think Boyle is a player QB does need to be addressed at some point. 

Pikes Peak posted:

BPA, every round.  Other than edge and RB every position truly can use a boost.  Unless they think Boyle is a player QB does need to be addressed at some point. 

they need another RB badly and a TE. 

Ervin might be an answer.

EC Pack posted:

Ervin might be an answer.

I don't think so. The guy has trouble catching kicks and punts coming his way. Using him on gadget plays will get old, very quickly and defenses will see him and make adjustments for him. 

WR, ILB, OT, DT is absolutely the need list. Spot on. 
Watching last night. GB absolutely needs to once and for all fix the ILB position. They desperately need more speed on the 2nd level. Oren Burks is wildly frustrating. As much as he regularly flashes on ST, almost always first guy on the scene, he can’t seem to find a way to get on the field. He’s clearly got the speed GB needs at the position but it’s not translating into PT. 
Also, GB needs a Debo Samuel, Mecole Hardman Jr gadget/slot/go fast WR to go between Adams and Lazard. I wouldn’t be surprised if Gute made a FA play for AJ Green either. 

Hoping they look at ILB, OT, CB, or DT in R1 and then WR only in R2. So many WRs it’s hard to accept that there won’t be a good one available in R2. 

We will likely are more UFA additions, so the list of needs will shift.

Pressing needs are WR, TE, OT, ILB in any order.  Need another DL and RB, but those can be grabbed in later rounds.  Another sneaky/under-the-radar need is OLB.  I don't know if Gary is a true OLB or not, or he maybe slides inside.  I think Fackrell is gone - he's a decent pass rusher, but cannot set the edge.  Z. can play snaps outside, but is more effective inside.

Huge need on offense.  Between WR, RB and TE we have 14 players:  2 are #1's (Adams, Jones), 2 are 3rd stringers (Jamaal Williams and Lazard), and the rest are just guys. 

Last night showed the lack of talent in the middle of the defense. Between interior line and MLB we have 9 players:  1 is a #1 (Clark), and the rest (including Martinez) are just guys.  

Those are the areas I think Gute attacks in the draft/free agency.  

With Graham and Lewis almost aged out, it's time to consider adding another weapon to the arsenal.

Bad year for TE, however, a guy I really like is Washington H-Back Hunter Bryant. He is on the short side, 6'2 but his speed will probably be the best of all TE in the draft. He will stretch defenses in a big way. You could even line him up as a slot (which he did in college in various packages). I believe he will be available in the 2nd round when we pick.

FB seems to be a position they really want to emphasize going forward. Vitale is talented, but seems a bit injury prone.

We can upgrade, and it might not even cost us a draft pick.

A kid I am very familiar with because I've been watching him play since HS is Fresno State RB/FB Josh Hokit. Not a lot of highlights on him due to the fact not a lot of people considered him an NFL prospect, but he is based on athleticism alone.

His career at Fresno was really mis-managed. He was a walk-on because the old staff pre Jeff Tedford didn't like him...largely because he played 5 different positions in HS...QB/RB/OLB/ILB/SS 

He signed a wrestling scholarship with Drexel (3 time state champion wrestler at 190lbs) but when Fresno State added wrestling he decided to stay home and do both.

The old staff started him at LB but because of piss poor recruiting had no choice but to move him to RB his true freshman year and the kid shined. He was the lone bright spot in a 1-11 season. 2017, his sophomore season, he was a workhorse at RB and kept his weight about 205-210 because he was going to wrestle at 190 right after football season. He is naturally more of a 235-245lbs kid. Junior year, 2018 he continued his strong campaign at RB, and then transitioned to wrestling with no problems. In fact, ended up becoming an All American, finishing 5th at 190lbs in NCAA tournament. Coaches had plans to let him go up to 240lbs, redshirt 2019, and transition to MLB to help his NFL prospects. He also decided to move up to heavyweight class for wrestling. But once again, injuries forced a bad decision for his NFL future, and the coaches asked him to play RB for us in 2019...which he did willingly...although this time he was up to 240lbs and so he quickly cut weight and played most of the season at 225lbs. Now he's back up to 240, wrestling very well. Last person to ever do both at a high level at Fresno was Lorenzo Neal. Hokit doesn't have the speed Neal had, but is fast enough. He also has better hands than Neal.

Best part about him...he has never missed a game in HS or college for injury. He is an absolute battering ram. I feel like if he gets in an NFL strength and nutrition program he's going to flourish. Mike Alstott comes to mind when I watch him. 

Where is Thadeus Moss slotted to go?

Love Hokit and agree he’s worth a fourth rounder

Boris posted:

Where is Thadeus Moss slotted to go?

Kiper has him rated as the 10th best TE, could see him moving up a bit on that, so probably pointing to a 4th to 5th round projection, but with lineage, maybe he moves to a 3rd.

The 10th TE has been taken in rounds 4-7 last 10 years, depending on quality of depth.  

I think that's about the same place Kittle was rated.

Thought Moss looked good vs. Clemson

He's the epitome of a "prospect" somebody will take a chance on and draft higher.  He wasn't a dominant TE at LSU but there was too much talent at WR for Burrow to throw to so he was kind of an afterthought in the pass game.  But I saw him flash once or twice a game when I was able to catch LSU late in the season and in the bowls.  I'd probably take that risk.

Grave Digger posted:

Hoping they look at ILB, OT, CB, or DT in R1 and then WR only in R2. So many WRs it’s hard to accept that there won’t be a good one available in R2. 

We will likely are more UFA additions, so the list of needs will shift.

This.  After last night, ILB and DT are the biggest glaring needs, followed by OL and slot-type WR.  Wouldn't complain about TE or RB either.

If the run defense isn't fixed we're going nowhere.