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Yeah, I could maybe see a RB on Day three, especially on a gadget/speed RB/Slot like Kenneth Gainwell from Memphis, Javian Hawkins from Louisville, Jermar Jefferson, Demetric Felton from UCLA.

They nabbed Patrick Taylor from Memphis last year and stashed him on the reserve list all season, as well. He's a guy with size, speed and versatility and they may plan on him taking Jamaal's spot this year.

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Ran another TDN for fun with the Jones news:

29. Zaven Collins LB Tulsa - Because man-crushes never die.

62. Richie Grant S UCF - Safety for big nickel who can also cover. Was between he and Dyami Brown WR North Carolina as no D-lineman I liked was here.

92. Trill Williams CB Syracuse - Long, fast CB who has also played in the slot.

135. Tay Gowan CB UCF - Another long, fast CB who sat out last season so may slip a bit.

142. Cole Van Lanen OT Wisconsin - Experienced tackle who can swing or take Turner's job at RT.

173. Khyris Tonga IDL BYU - Big, quick, very raw athletic freak.

177. Patrick Johnson OLB Tulane - Versatile edge guy. Was thinking Kuony Deng since I thought Johnson would be gone by this point but since he was still there...

212. Simi Fehoko WR Stanford - Yeah, he's kind of MVS but I think he has better hands and guy can fly.

218. Jermar Jefferson RB Oregon State - He's still on the board so adding him seemed a no-brainer even if Dillon takes enough carries to keep Jones healthy.

255. Jamar Watson OLB Kentucky - Gadget pass rusher who can also cover and be a core special teamer.

I did this with the assumption the Packers will be good with their interior O-Line with Jenkins at Center (or maybe Hanson, I suppose). Mayfield went before the Packers' pick, so that temptation was gone. I wanted another D-lineman but there never seemed to be one I liked when the picks came up.

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They play a load of nickel and only have two safeties and one corner that are worth more than a warm bucket of spit. Add in that Savage has missed time each season and yes, three DBs who can likely play early could be a thing if they don’t bring in anyone from outside. They really need two “starters” at a minimum and someone worth a damn in case of injury.

Do you really want to see Kadar Holman and Henry Black playing major snaps? The Packers were pretty fortunate with Injuries last season, but there's a good argument Kevin King should have been at least the third CB in the Championship game. The cap is tight, especially with the Jones re-signing, and having money to bring in a decent veteran could be tight. Corner is deeper than D-line in the draft so it probably makes more sense to sign a lineman, depending on what happens.

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@Herschel posted:

I’d rather not rely so heavily on rookies either, but as of right now I don’t see a lot of veteran help coming past rotation guys.

I think it's easier for a rookie to have an immediate impact as a DL than as a CB. Run-stuffing skills don't change much from college and speed rushers can still stress a defense even as they develop some countermoves.

DB play is a lot more complex in terms of recognizing route combinations, etc.

I'd like them to sign a mid-level veteran CB to provide stability (a Breeland type) and then go heavy on defense in the draft (especially ILB and DL). Most elite pass rushers don't get to the free agency and those that do are risks. Clowney is the type of boom or bust free agent that could make a difference if you could get him for 6-7 million. However, I would guess someone will overpay him.

If you look at Packers cornerbacks over the years most of them stepped in right away and either excelled or flamed out.

Newsome, McKenzie, Jaire, Sharper, Hayward, were all pretty decent from the get go.  Doug Evans and Sam Shields were more projects.  Rollins, Jue, Josh Jackson, Antuan Edwards, Joey Thomas, Ahmad Carroll pretty much sucked from the beginning.

@fightphoe93 posted:

Sadly, they have tried this before with the likes of Nick Perry, Jerel Worthy, Datone Jones, Khyri Thornton, Clinton-Dix, Damarious Randall, Quentin Rollins, etc. etc. etc.  Clinton-Dix was decent early on and Perry had 1 good year, Kevin King is okay when healthy, but that’s about it for that mediocre at best list of players the Pack tried to throw at their defensive deficiencies.  

They are just very poor at identifying talent for fixing the D with Alexander and Clark being the lone exceptions.  Maybe Savage will develop, but just lots and lots of mediocrity and disappointments the past decade.

That’s why reaching for a position is so bad. Fuck it, just get the best damned player you can find.

It's not just the Riunite, it's the fistful of Velveta and rye crisps he has with it.

If NFL.com was "correct" and in "order", the seven "best players available" listed are:

Gregory Rosseau OLB Miami - Athletic freak opt-out, maybe a better version of Gary

Zaven Collins LB Tulsa - 'nuf said.

Jalen Phillips  OLB Miami - Another freakish athlete, but his injury history scares the crap out of me.

Tyson Campbell CB Georgia - Georgia runs a LOT of zone, not sure I like him.

Kadarious Toney - Smaller than they seem to go for and more of a lot/gadget guy right now, but guy can move.

Treven Moehrig - Seems a straight up Free Safety

Terrance Marshall JR - Seems more like a receiver the Packers like with better size and a good prospect all-around

I still take Collins, with Rosseau being the second choice. I'd rather they trade down than take Campbell and probably Moehrig. Hopefully someone would want to come up for a fifth-year option on Mac Jones

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