Official 2021 Draft Thread

@Grave Digger posted:

Maybe it’s good we haven’t burned a 1st on a WR, but backs up the idea that we should have take a  LB...

Fun research project with @VinMasi - hit rate for 1st-round draft picks by position:

C (100%)
OT (60%)
LB (55%)
G (46%)
EDGE (45%)
QB (42%)
RB (40%)
S (39%)
TE (39%)
CB (35%)
DT (35%)
WR (27%)

Determined by whether or not that player signed a 2nd contract with his draft team

— Paul Hembekides (@PaulHembo) April 2, 2021

So the safest pick for the Packers in round 1 is a center which we need now. 

@ammo posted:

So the safest pick for the Packers in round 1 is a center which we need now.

Let's not turn our draft into a Vikings draft.

@Chongo posted:

She’d make every DL look like Tyler Lancaster

Flying lancasters.

@antooo posted:

So how does that affect the Love market?

Ask Matt Gaetz

I know a few like to quote "this isn't fantasy football" but Geitostkunst has followed the fantasy football playbook in two of his three drafts: spamming a position with Day 3 picks when he didn't get a top guy.

The Moore/MVS/Equine Serious draft was one, but last year he spammed IOL with Runyan, Hansen and Stepaniak. With Turner's versatility he could do the same for OT with say Jaylon Moore (Western Michigan) Brenden Jaimes and Cole Van Lanen.

Whaddya think of this mock:

I would love to get Walker Little at pick 142.

I don't care for the Alabama players there, but from three on I'd be very happy with it.

Gutekunst also has double upped a position with FA & draft pick.

3 players from Stanford? I like the Little pick. The others, not so much.

@Herschel posted:

I know a few like to quote "this isn't fantasy football" but Geitostkunst has followed the fantasy football playbook in two of his three drafts: spamming a position with Day 3 picks when he didn't get a top guy.

The Moore/MVS/Equine Serious draft was one, but last year he spammed IOL with Runyan, Hansen and Stepaniak. With Turner's versatility he could do the same for OT with say Jaylon Moore (Western Michigan) Brenden Jaimes and Cole Van Lanen.

I'd rather he did that with defensive front 7.

I think I'd rather he drop premium picks there. In theory, they need a swing tackle and would like a starting right tackle while in the front seven they kind of need starters.

Agreed we need starters there.

How about a punter? https://www.si.com/nfl/eagles/...unter-for-the-eagles . It’s a link to the Eagles but is interesting.
Big fella, can throw the ball and direction kick, good hang time, quick release under pressure and if he had to tackle because he is over 250lbs he could do it!

We definitely need a better punter. Not in the draft, unless there's a Ray Guy in the mix. Bring in a bunch of un-drafted guys and let them fight it out. Opie sucks ass.   

Sorry, Opie is the next Ray Guy.  Just read his draft thread. 

@bvan posted:

We definitely need a better punter. Not in the draft, unless there's a Ray Guy in the mix. Bring in a bunch of un-drafted guys and let them fight it out. Opie sucks ass.   

This punter won the Ray Guy award. I don’t think that even Opie won that award. He is projected to be a fifth rounder.

If Gunt drafts a fucking punter I will shoot his dog.

@Henry posted:

If Gunt drafts a fucking punter I will shoot his dog.

@Henry posted:

If Gunt drafts a fucking punter I will shoot his dog.

You may have to buy him a dog first. 

@Henry posted:

If Gunt drafts a fucking punter I will shoot his dog.

Whats worse, blowing another late round pick on a punter or continually blowing premium picks on the secondary?

Blowing premium picks on the secondary? Like Alexander and Savage?

Doubtful a punter gets drafted.

There's a dog's life depending on it.

If the success of our season comes down the fate of a single sacrificial dog, we are doomed!  See Dan Divine for details. 

@YooperPackfan posted:

Whats worse, blowing another late round pick on a punter or continually blowing premium picks on the secondary?

To be fair to Gutey, he has only blown 1 of 3 premium picks thus far on a secondary player - Josh Jackson.

Savage looks to be a hit, and Jaire absolutely is a hit.

As for those 2014-2107 1st and 2nd round secondary picks -- HaHa, Randall, Quentin Rollins, King, and Josh Jones, now that is a horrific return on 5 of your 8 top picks over 4 drafts.

@Packmeister posted:

3 players from Stanford? I like the Little pick. The others, not so much.

Looking at Fehoko's pro day results, I can see why you took him... he certainly fits the athletic profile. The knock on Fehoko is he's raw.

Adebo did well, too.

Anyone know anything about Jacob Harris, from UCF? He's listed as a TE, but he's light for the position. With that said, his pro day numbers are elite, as an athlete...this is from CBS NFL Pro Day Results:

"Harris measured 6-foot-5, 219 pounds and ran 4.39 second 40-yard dash and a 6.51 second 3-cone drill with a 11-feet, 1-inch broad jump and a 40.5 inch vertical jump. It was a monstrous day for the tight end."

He is listed as a WR on Walter's site.

I see a lot of good athletes coming out of UCF.

@bvan posted:

We definitely need a better punter. Not in the draft, unless there's a Ray Guy in the mix. Bring in a bunch of un-drafted guys and let them fight it out. Opie sucks ass.   

After spending picks on Bidwell and Opie, hope they never spend another one on that position.  Oh, I just remembered BJ Sanders as well...and threw up in my mouth a bit.

The Packers spent a 1st round draft pick on a punter in the '65 draft,
Worked out pretty well.

My latest mock from TDN...this was a tough one. Lots of good players available at 29...could have gone in a number of directions.

29. Christian Barmore IDL

62. Jevon Holland S Oregon

92. Benjamin St-Juste CB Minnesota

135. Walker Little OT Stanford

142. Chuba Hubbard RB Oklahoma State

173. Malcolm Koonce EDGE Buffalo

178. Jaelon Darden WR North Texas

214. Anthony Hines III LB Texas A&M

220. Tay Gowan CB UCF

256. Jacob Harris WR UCF

@Goalline posted:

Blowing premium picks on the secondary? Like Alexander and Savage?

No more like Dix, Randall, Rollins, King,  Jones and Jackson. There is no excuse for that garbage and has set this team back big time!

Sometimes the best moves are the ones you don’t make. I would rather lose a 4th/pick Love than have this psycho on the roster...

#Breaking I’ve learned from sources that #MinnesotaVikings Cornerback Jeff Gladney has turned himself into the Dallas County Jail after the #NFL player posted a $10,000 bond on a charge 3rd degree felony family violence assault. pic.twitter.com/Wz6mTReTzP

— J.D. Miles (@jdmiles11) April 5, 2021

@YooperPackfan posted:

No more like Dix, Randall, Rollins, King,  Jones and Jackson. There is no excuse for that garbage and has set this team back big time!

Got it! I thought you were being specific to Gute.

No cuz I like Gute

Gunt drafted Jackson.

True!

@Henry posted:

Gunt drafted Jackson.

When Josh Jackson and Jordan Love are the core of this team and all pro players you’re going to eat a table full of crows, asshole first.

If Josh Jackson and Jordan Nub are the core of the Packers I'll assume Gunt is still employed and they have 6 punters and 35 RBs on the roster.

Unless they find a new role for Jackson, I doubt he'll be all pro anything.