Administrative leave?????? yeehaaa could be good news for the Badgers.
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Best guess GOLDIE, he will still be there when we playum in the Big 10 Championship Game Saturday December 1 at Indianapolis
unless they are found to be in violation of Title 9 which states a college or university which receives federal funding may be held legally responsible when it knows ABOUT and IGNORES sexual harassment or assault in its program, that would open up a whole new can of worms
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nothing will happen
something gawd dang better happen.
Lot going on here. Jim Jordan is in play. Ohio State is in full cover mode.
It is quite obvious Meyer lied at the Big Ten media day and the Big Ten powers will not like that. Trump may get away with telling lies but Meyer will not.
Neither will Don.
ammo posted:It is quite obvious Meyer lied at the Big Ten media day and the Big Ten powers will not like that. Trump may get away with telling lies but Meyer will not.
Wanna bet?
Goalline posted:ammo posted:It is quite obvious Meyer lied at the Big Ten media day and the Big Ten powers will not like that. Trump may get away with telling lies but Meyer will not.
Wanna bet?
and crap, youâre right...Ohio State Football is one of the gods of college football.
Urb is Urb
A complete lying dirt bag means to an end guy
He pulled a lot of **** at Floriduh and is likely pulling the same or worse **** at O$U
shocker
Maybe he will find religion or better yet come down with âhealth problemsâ or step away to âspend more time with his familyâ
****ing douchebag
Nobody and I mean nobody thought Joe Pa would get fired, but he did. So was Woody Hayes. It happens.
Goldie posted:Goalline posted:ammo posted:It is quite obvious Meyer lied at the Big Ten media day and the Big Ten powers will not like that. Trump may get away with telling lies but Meyer will not.
Wanna bet?
and crap, youâre right...Ohio State Football is one of the gods of college football.
Ok as many of you know I am a Badger fan stuck in SW Ohio about an hour from Columbus. I can say this Urban Meyer is a god here but I don't know if OSU can keep him with the PR nightmare they have on their hands. Apparantly not only Urban knew but his wife (and OSU employee) knew as well and they either ignored it or covered it up. So Urban is on administrative leave and rumors here are that Urban might be gone by this weekend.
Looks like he could be gone, the question is does he leave with the money or without.
Goldie posted:Goalline posted:ammo posted:It is quite obvious Meyer lied at the Big Ten media day and the Big Ten powers will not like that. Trump may get away with telling lies but Meyer will not.
Wanna bet?
and crap, youâre right...Ohio State Football is one of the gods of college football.
Yup. They will come up with some lame punishment and he will keep going.
Urban is going to be fired unless he agrees to resign. By tomorrow. Again. There is a lot going on in Ohio that has no time for Urban Meyerâs nonsense.
The NCAA needs to adopt a coaching âdeath penaltyâ. If these guys are going to rake in millions, when they are caught cheating or guilty of this kind of infraction, the man shouldnât coach anymore. 10 years at least, multiple infractions lifetime. And the head coach is responsible for the conduct of his assistants.
You wanna âclean up the gameâ? Thereâs your start..
Love me some whatabotism
Heâll be gone.....or he better be.....his wife was talking to the x wife and said sheâd tell her husband about the abuse. Now I know she might not have..... the abuse was even happening after they were divorced!!!!! And that King piece of crap should be in jail.
The fact that there is still even a question of whether Meyer stays suggests they are going to try to come up with a reason to keep him. He's been a hypocrite all along. He's teams in Florida were filled with some of the worst individuals you could imagine (other than Tebow). Aaron Hernandez had some things covered up when he was there so he could keep playing. The Pouncey twins have not exactly been model citizens. And that's the stuff we know about.
https://www.usatoday.com/story...y-florida/893710002/
I'm guessing he'll pull out his "God" card and survive this. He's done it before.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com...ban-me_b_405154.html
The coach said that he was retiring because God had told him to quit and his daughterâs reaction was confirmation of this divine intervention.
Two days later, following an afternoon on the practice field, Meyer changed his mind and switched his retirement status to a âleave of absence.â He expects to coach next fall.
Meyer has a national championship, OSU is going to keep him on "leave" through this season and then quietly reinstate him in some capacity in late 2018 so he can do some recruiting. Then quietly fully reinstate him before NSD and hope there's a new controversy going on that will bury his reinstatement.
Grave Digger posted:Meyer has a national championship, OSU is going to keep him on "leave" through this season and then quietly reinstate him in some capacity in late 2018 so he can do some recruiting. Then quietly fully reinstate him before NSD and hope there's a new controversy going on that will bury his reinstatement.
OSU opens with Oregon State and Rutgers. Oregon State was 1-11 last year and Rutgers was 4-8. The third game is at TCU which was the #9 team in the country at the end of last year. What do you want to bet that Urban gets a two game suspension for "failing" at media day?
When I think of dirtbag coaches in D1 football the first guy that comes to mind is Bobby Petrino. Urban Meyer might be a close second.
What makes Urb worse is that he projects this image like heâs better and smarter and has a higher moral superiority than anyone else. Itâs all bull****. Petrino doesnât really try to hide it. You know what you are getting from that guy.
I cant see how Meyer survives this scandal but then again it is Ohio $tate. They skated their way out from under Tressel and Clarett so it would not surprise me one bit if they retain the guy.
Floriduh is still suffering from the Urb criminal hangover. Nice legacy Meyer.
Tschmack posted:When I think of dirtbag coaches in D1 football
Art Briles
How could I forget Art Briles. Good catch.
He would tell you itâs Godâs will to help the troubled youth. As long as they can play ball.
Dave Bliss is another gem, and he is working again, guess where? A religious school in Oklahoma. The whole bunch are RINO's.....Religous in Name Only
Something like this was my biggest fear with the Meyer hire. Heâs very lucky to have a Tebow in the sense that he covered up a lot of that Florida garbage.
Regarding his current situation in my opinion heâs got to go. Chili is right there is too much else going on for the university to put up with this. You are Ohio State you find someone.
Music City posted:The NCAA needs to adopt a coaching âdeath penaltyâ. If these guys are going to rake in millions, when they are caught cheating or guilty of this kind of infraction, the man shouldnât coach anymore. 10 years at least, multiple infractions lifetime. And the head coach is responsible for the conduct of his assistants.
You wanna âclean up the gameâ? Thereâs your start..
I totally agree with this. I do think that there is some sort of a probation thing they can nail coaches with that they can't coach for 5 years. I could be wrong on this but I think thats what happened to Tressell for his time at OSU when players traded OSU things for free tatoos.
Anyhow, I completely agree that coaches should be given a life time ban under certain circumstances. And if you really want to slam them don't give them the big fat settlement they get when their contract is terminated.
I for one predict that Meyer will be allowed to stay at OSU because the "independent investigation) OSU is doing will find somehow that Meyer is not guilty. Mark my words on that one.
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I see on Facebook all the sheep showing up. Sorry but this while ârallyâ is wrong. Itâs rigjt up there with dipstick Penn St that stood by Joe Pa.
One whole aspect Iâm struggling with is his wife, as a nurse she holds an obligation to report.
PackerBackerDPM posted:I see on Facebook all the sheep showing up. Sorry but this while ârallyâ is wrong. Itâs rigjt up there with dipstick Penn St that stood by Joe Pa.
One whole aspect Iâm struggling with is his wife, as a nurse she holds an obligation to report.
Ya think......Kingâs ex wife told Meyerâs wife ALL THE DETAILS.....and Meyerâs wife said sheâd talk to Urban about it. Now, she might not have, but......THEY KNEW. Theyâll say Meyer will be suspended, BUT HE WONâT EVER BE GONE from OSU.
Meh. Dum news. O$U will be O$U. NCAA will be NCAA.
ESPN reporting that Zeke Elliott's father went to the rally. Check out his quote. Keep in mind Zeke Elliott beat up his girlfriend.
In attendance at Monday's rally was Stacy Elliott, father of former Ohio State running back Ezekiel Elliott. Stacy Elliott came to the event wearing a replica of his son's Buckeyes jersey. Elliott said he participated because he loves Meyer and because he teaches respect for women.
Elliott's son, now a running back for the Dallas Cowboys, was suspended without pay for the first six games of the 2017 NFL season after the league investigated allegations from Elliott's ex-girlfriend that he was involved in "multiple instances of physical violence" against her.
Iâm sorry. But the crew that showed up at OSU today:
Looks an awful lot like the crew that showed up to support Favre:
Morons.
Ohio State should have fired Urban two weeks ago. When it would have made sense. They didnât.
Should happen any day now. But OSU is going to look like total **** after all this comes out.
And Urban is done.
I work with a big OSU alum/fan. One of the nicest guys to talk to on almost every subject. Great colleague, fair-minded, etc.
I brought up Urban at work this week and got a 5 minute rant on how this was a hit job by a reporter (McMurphy) with an axe to grind and how it was pretty clear that Smith's ex-wife was fabricating a bunch of this. I thought he was going to have a coronary (and I said nothing other than to ask him what he thought of this). And this is one of the calm alumni.
Urban is going to make it through this unless they have him on tape helping Smith stalk his wife. Even then, they'd probably claim he was trying to mediate the dispute and was the good guy.
Urban isnât surviving the news that came out today.
I work with a big OSU alum/fan. One of the nicest guys to talk to on almost every subject. Great colleague, fair-minded, etc.
I know a similar guy. The day before the story broke he posted a hit piece on Jim Harbaugh, because Michigan, and couldn't get why I keep calling him a shill for his tOSU blinders. Nice on most other issues, but a complete schmuck on tOSU.
Fedya posted:I work with a big OSU alum/fan. One of the nicest guys to talk to on almost every subject. Great colleague, fair-minded, etc.
I know a similar guy. The day before the story broke he posted a hit piece on Jim Harbaugh, because Michigan, and couldn't get why I keep calling him a shill for his tOSU blinders. Nice on most other issues, but a complete schmuck on tOSU.
I am absolutely surrounded by OSU fans who are the same way. They have such blinders on that they think Urban can do no wrong. And these are the same fans who were all over Meyer for the program he ran at Florida and all of the problems they had down there.
They also believe there is absolutely nothing wrong with the players during the Tressell years trading/selling OSU memorabilia (while still on scholarship) for tatoos and other things. I keep telling them that it is against the rules and the NCAA sees it as a recruiting advantage. Their blinders truly baffles me and they think Ohio $tate has nothing but choir boys playing for them.
All I will say is that my hope is that this is finally the year that Bucky beats them in Indy I will truly enjoy coming to work the next Monday.
The investigation was completed yesterday. The Board of Trustees will meet Wed and discuss the findings. After an appropriate time for consideration the result will be released.
AND HEâs SUSPENDED FOR THREE GAMES......B/R https://bleacherreport.com
MichiganPacker2 posted:Grave Digger posted:Meyer has a national championship, OSU is going to keep him on "leave" through this season and then quietly reinstate him in some capacity in late 2018 so he can do some recruiting. Then quietly fully reinstate him before NSD and hope there's a new controversy going on that will bury his reinstatement.
OSU opens with Oregon State and Rutgers. Oregon State was 1-11 last year and Rutgers was 4-8. The third game is at TCU which was the #9 team in the country at the end of last year. What do you want to bet that Urban gets a two game suspension for "failing" at media day?
I missed this by one game. Maybe TCU is going to have a down year this year?
LOL. 3 Games. That will send a message. The message being that the non-conference game and what is essentially a bye week against Rutgers don't matter.
Lol is right
Tschmack posted:Lol is right
LOL is exactly right but I shake my head at the same time. Just be glad you don't live smack dab in the middle of the cess pool that is O$U fandom.
I will say this again if the Badgers play O$U in Indy it would make me exrtremely happy as a fan to see him lose especially to Bucky.
Ok I got my hands on the report that the O$U investigators just finished. O$U rubes will tell you Urban never knew anything in 2015 but here is a part of the report:
The Heckler posted:Ok I got my hands on the report that the O$U investigators just finished. O$U rubes will tell you Urban never knew anything in 2015 but here is a part of the report:
I love how these guys always hide behind the idea that they are never in the loop. I guarantee you Urban Meyer is aware of every minute detail if anything going on affects his program. Same thing with Tom Izzo and Dantonio at MSU, Paterno at Penn State, etc.
OSU's own report says Urban has significant memory issues and likely deleted all his old texts, but they keep him. Destroying evidence is generally not a good look for anyone.
And those memory losses is one of the reasons he was not fired. Has to do with the Americans With Disabilities Act.
Meyer is on record stating he remembers every play in the $EC championship game v Bama- when he was at Floriduh.
Maybe heâs got a case of âselective memoryâ as something my wife mentions to me. Or maybe heâs been consulting with Roseanne Barrâs PR experts.
ADA? LMFAO. Meyer wasnât fired because O$U considers football more important than integrity or morality. Itâs not any more complicated than that. And yet another reason to dislike Urb and the Suckeyes.
Congrats Urb. Youâve now joined the sad fraternity of scumbag coaches like Art Briles and Bobby Petrino. Well played!
From an SI story:
Fourth, Meyer would have had 38 million reasons to litigate a for-cause firing, and a protracted legal fight could have been very damaging to Ohio State on multiple levels. Per the terms of his employment contract, Meyer had the right to litigate a contract dispute in Franklin County, Ohio. Had he been fired, Meyer could have sued the school for breach of contract, defamation and possibly also for violating the Americans with Disabilities Act
The report also mentions that Meyer periodically takes medicine that âcan negatively impair his memory, concentration, and focus.â Investigators also observed that Meyer âsometimes had significant memory issues in other situations where he had prior extensive knowledge of events.â The report suggests some of Meyerâs answers during Big Ten media day reflected not ill-intent but rather blameless health conditions. In any lawsuit over a firing, Meyerâs attorneys would have argued that the university admits medication impacts Meyerâs focus and concentration and thus perhaps played an exonerating role in his missteps. Both federal and state laws provide protections for employees with health conditions and who use medication.
Tschmack posted:Meyer is on record stating he remembers every play in the $EC championship game v Bama- when he was at Floriduh.
Maybe heâs got a case of âselective memoryâ as something my wife mentions to me. Or maybe heâs been consulting with Roseanne Barrâs PR experts.
ADA? LMFAO. Meyer wasnât fired because O$U considers football more important than integrity or morality. Itâs not any more complicated than that. And yet another reason to dislike Urb and the Suckeyes.
Congrats Urb. Youâve now joined the sad fraternity of scumbag coaches like Art Briles and Bobby Petrino. Well played!
Oh when I saw the selective memory/memory difficulties I honestly laughed out loud. I see way to much Urban on local TV and radio and trust me this guy is not suffering from memory loss.
Oh trust me O$U likes to come across as this academic university but honestly all they care about is football. And all the fans care about is football and if the Manson family ran that football team the fans would say "they are just misunderstood they have the best interest in mind for those kids". I am not even kidding one bit.
I have been having fun with the Suckeye fans when I say things like "so if Urban Meyer was at Michigan or an SEC school would you give him a free pass on this one?" I like the blank stares when I say that.
Sounds like he's got a golden ticket.
Charles Manson was from Ohio....you may be n to something
My English professors always said that you should never use multiple words when one word would suffice. This is an egregious example.
The OSU report said - Meyer sometimes "had significant memory issues in other situations where he had prior extensive knowledge of events.â
To be more concise it should have said - Meyer sometimes "lies"
Tschmack posted:Meyer is on record stating he remembers every play in the $EC championship game v Bama- when he was at Floriduh.
Maybe heâs got a case of âselective memoryâ as something my wife mentions to me. Or maybe heâs been consulting with Roseanne Barrâs PR experts.
ADA? LMFAO. Meyer wasnât fired because O$U considers football more important than integrity or morality. Itâs not any more complicated than that. And yet another reason to dislike Urb and the Suckeyes.
Congrats Urb. Youâve now joined the sad fraternity of scumbag coaches like Art Briles and Bobby Petrino. Well played!
I think he's worse than Petrino. As someone else said on this board, it's not like Petrino tries to come across as a saint. You pretty much know what you are getting from him.
Meyer tries to come across as above it all and saintly. It's the same as Roy Williams for UNC basketball claiming he had no idea his players weren't actually doing classwork themselves.
Iâve defended many ADA claims over the years - some legit and some utterly ridiculous. Urbâs claim would qualify as the latter. Thereâs too much evidence to the contrary as head football coach of a legacy program. Itâs as stupid as Rosanne claiming the Ambien caused her to make idiotic and racist statements via Twitter. You mean the other 200 offensive comments youâve made over the years didnât count? Give me a break.
Meyer has won 90% of his games at O$U not to mention a national championship. That type of success has generated millions for the university. You canât kill the golden goose and that win at any cost mentality works. Money talks and ethics walk.
The guy is a slimeball and somewhere Jim Tressel is probably shaking his head.
Spent quite a bit of time this week wondering how someone has to be wired to leave the kind of destructive wake Urban has from failed kids to murder victims to assault victims to jailed students to battered girlfriends and wives and he just keeps on keeping on because the next season is quickly approaching.
What OSU didnât do with Urban is surprising. Sorry. It is. It is still a respected academic institution.
But I canât get past how Urban lives with himself.
"How do you sleep at night?"
"On top of a big pile of money."
If Urban Meyer got fired there would be a number of programs lining up to beg for his services. And heâd still get paid a lot of jack and act like an arrogant ass.
Next to Saban, I canât think of a more proven successful HC the last 10-15 years than Urb. Dabo Sweeney is getting close but heâs not in that category yet.
You see how this works? Itâs very easy to look the other way when you are that successful. Thereâs only a handful of head coaches that operate at his level. Although, the problem I have is Ohio $tate doesnât have to compromise their ethics to be good. They have the legacy and tradition. They can get top notch recruits and have world class facilities. But winning championships can be intoxicating and can warp your sense of reality and morality. That and beating Michigan!
You see it in business and politics all the time - power and money can corrupt and sometimes the results mean more than the intent. Itâs effed up but not that surprising.
Did anybody really think they would cut him loose? I thought it would be 4 games, but there is no way they were going to can him. This is a national story, not just covered by local hacks, there will be more forgotten stuff dug up...this aint over.
What's the over and under OSU score against Tulane? 70?