Hungry5 posted:Clark 6'6" 217
Kendricks 6'3" 250
Graham 6'7" 265
Let's stop the Clark to TE talk.
Can we imagine Spriggs moving to TE? Or is he too weak?
I can only guess all the suggestions of moving everyone at X position that isn't good enough at X position, to TE is all in jest. Because when it's taken nearly a decade to get a good TE, I can't imagine how anyone would think that spot is easily filled by someone who's played a different position their whole careers.
Best guess:
Offense (24)
QB: Rodgers, Kizer
RB: Montgomery, Williams, Jones, Mays (during Jones suspension)
FB: Ripkowski
TE: Graham, Lewis, Kendrick
WR: Adams, Cobb, Allison, Clark, Moore, St. Brown
OT: Bakhtiari, Bulaga, Spriggs, Murphy
OG: Taylor, McCray, Madison, Bell
C: Linsley
Defense (26)
DL: Daniels, Clark, Wilkerson, Lowry, Adams, Lancaster
OLB: Matthews, Perry, Biegel, Gilbert, Odom
ILB: Martinez, Ryan, Burks
CB: King, Alexander, Jackson, Williams, House, Rollins, Hawkins Pipkins
S: Clinton-Dix, Jones, Brice, Evans
Special Teams (3)
K: Crosby
P: Scott
LS: Bradley
DH13 posted:I can only guess all the suggestions of moving everyone at X position that isn't good enough at X position, to TE is all in jest. Because when it's taken nearly a decade to get a good TE, I can't imagine how anyone would think that spot is easily filled by someone who's played a different position their whole careers.
Yes, it isn't like FB where any TE, LB, or otherwise FB lifer can do it - assuming they can get in someone way.
No backup Punter?
Somebody has to be inactive!
Terrible guesses at the roster.
Hope always springs eternal for WR draft picks. But the odds are pretty high that late round guys usually wash out or wilt on the PS. There is a lot to like about the triplets' measureables but history says the chances of all of them making the 53 are pretty low. This may be countered by the fact there is a sizeable void after the #2 spot.
I agree, I think Valdez-Scantling is a longshot, but I think Moore will actually surprise us. St. Brown is a question mark, there's a reason he was available so late, but hopefully teams passed for the wrong reasons and we got a steal!
Grave Digger posted:......(during Allison suspension)
michiganjoe posted:Roster Builder hot take: 6 wide receivers kept, veteran cornerbacks cut
Can't take him too seriously when he has Trevor Davis as a "lock".
I guess the only reason why Davis is a "lock" is due to all 3 new receivers having zero ST experience in college. If he becomes a great returner, fine, but I'm sure he won't see the field otherwise.
Alexander has experience returning punts and Davis offers next to nothing from scrimmage. Fine to believe he'll make the final cut but it's absurd to call him a lock.
I think there is a good chance Lance Kendricks doesn't make the cut
michiganjoe posted:Grave Digger posted:......(during Allison suspension)
You're right, I got that mixed up with last season. Good catch!
El-Ka-Bong posted:I think there is a good chance Lance Kendricks doesn't make the cut
Why do you think that?
If Alexander ends up being the starting slot corner out of camp I don't want him returning punts. Fixing and stabilizing the secondary is a heck of a lot higher priority than making the rook do double duty on D and ST's IMO.
I'd think that cuz he drops passes. I'd go youth with Graham and Lewis on board.
Grave Digger posted:I agree, I think Valdez-Scantling is a longshot, but I think Moore will actually surprise us.
I've ready about MVS impressing in the mini camps, showing ability from the slot. Like I said, it's hard not to get excited about these 3. Lots of talk about Moore so I think many are already expecting a lot from him.
With Clark retiring it seems MVS went from a long shot to likely.
And that’s not a good thing. Nothing earned is nothing learned.
El-Ka-Bong posted:Herb Waters is the most 1970's name we've had in awhile.
I'm rooting for him
Maybe he'll turn out to be a combo of Herb Adderley and Charlie Waters .
I hope he does not turn out to be Nat Adderly or John Waters.
ChilliJon posted:And that’s not a good thing. Nothing earned is nothing learned.
I think it depends on the player. If a player is satisfied just making the roster then it's a bad thing, but I would hope we're drafting players who are working to earn playing time and future paydays. Hopefully MVS (and others) is closer in attitude to Donald Driver than he is Javon Walker.
Am I missing something on Michael Clark, it seems like he retired because he was still low on the depth chart in OTA's and left before he got cut or was relegated to the #6 WR? If that is the case, good riddance.
If Clark wasn't someone that would really challenge the triplets in camp then it's good he's not there - more snaps for the others.
michiganjoe posted:Alexander has experience returning punts and Davis offers next to nothing from scrimmage. Fine to believe he'll make the final cut but it's absurd to call him a lock.
Oh, it's absurd for sure but that seems to be the MO of this organization in the past few years. I think he's sucking up a roster spot. I am hopeful Garneharnarnar won't put up with "kinda okay and stuff".
No way do I want to see Alexander back there though.
Grave Digger posted:Am I missing something on Michael Clark, it seems like he retired because he was still low on the depth chart in OTA's and left before he got cut or was relegated to the #6 WR? If that is the case, good riddance.
Link? If a 22-year-old kid walks away from the game entirely I don't think it has to do with his roster spot. He could try and catch on with another team if he really wanted to play in the NFL. It may simply not be worth it to him. Maybe he doesn't want to have his bell rung on a regular basis.
If they think Alexander can help then return punts I’m fine with it. Think in past history what a difference that makes in terms of shortening the field position.
Henry posted:Grave Digger posted:Am I missing something on Michael Clark, it seems like he retired because he was still low on the depth chart in OTA's and left before he got cut or was relegated to the #6 WR? If that is the case, good riddance.
Link? If a 22-year-old kid walks away from the game entirely I don't think it has to do with his roster spot. He could try and catch on with another team if he really wanted to play in the NFL. It may simply not be worth it to him. Maybe he doesn't want to bell rung on a regular basis.
I love watching football, but this is probably a smart choice. He's the type to hang around at the fringes of a roster/practice squad for 2-3 years. The risk/reward for CTE is too low for this type of player.
Henry posted:Link? If a 22-year-old kid walks away from the game entirely I don't think it has to do with his roster spot. He could try and catch on with another team if he really wanted to play in the NFL. It may simply not be worth it to him. Maybe he doesn't want to have his bell rung on a regular basis.
From the 247Sports article about his retirement:
At minicamp, even with Randall Cobb excused and Geronimo Allison injured, the No. 1 three-receiver package featured Davante Adams, Yancey and rookie J’Mon Moore. That was surprisingly low on the pecking order for a player who looked like an ascending player.
It's obviously speculation on my part about this being his motivation. It may be a combination of things, but if the team indicates you're going to be a contributor going forward then it's hard to imagine a player walking away unless there are injury concerns (like Chris Borland).
Henry posted:Grave Digger posted:Am I missing something on Michael Clark, it seems like he retired because he was still low on the depth chart in OTA's and left before he got cut or was relegated to the #6 WR? If that is the case, good riddance.
Link? If a 22-year-old kid walks away from the game entirely I don't think it has to do with his roster spot. He could try and catch on with another team if he really wanted to play in the NFL. It may simply not be worth it to him. Maybe he doesn't want to have his bell rung on a regular basis
Henry posted:
Link? If a 22-year-old kid walks away from the game entirely I don't think it has to do with his roster spot. He could try and catch on with another team if he really wanted to play in the NFL. It may simply not be worth it to him. Maybe he doesn't want to have his bell rung on a regular basis.
Yep. Of course, it has nothing to do with his roster spot. Clark only played football for a very short time and logic would suggest he didn't love the sport enough to put his body through the rigors of another training camp.
heyward posted:Henry posted:
Link? If a 22-year-old kid walks away from the game entirely I don't think it has to do with his roster spot. He could try and catch on with another team if he really wanted to play in the NFL. It may simply not be worth it to him. Maybe he doesn't want to have his bell rung on a regular basis.Yep. Of course, it has nothing to do with his roster spot. Clark only played football for a very short time and logic would suggest he didn't love the sport enough to put his body through the rigors of another training camp.
Either he doesn't want to take the beating physically or mentally, or something else is going on. Clark showed a lot of improvement during the year. I'd like to hear it from him about why he retired when it seemed like he was just getting underway... I think there's more to come on his story.
That's what the media is for.
Unless they get banned.
Save room for the Martini. The new Jarrett Bush or Jeff Janis.
If Martini, olives or not, is a capable backup and a ST standout, that's good enough for me. And it would be a step above either JBush or Janis.
For Pettine to be working him with the 2s this early on, he must like something. And first team on both kickoff units.
W: "Assignment-sure" = good enough to know the plays and where to be, physically questionable if he will get there in time. Also see: Hawk, AJ.
But I agree YA; somebody sees something that he's on the ones for the kicking game.
Not certain how assignment sure Hawk was on the fake FG in Seattle. Always seems to be at least one undrafted player who comes out of nowhere to make the final cut. Very early, but Martini appears to have put himself in a good place.
michiganjoe posted:Not certain how assignment sure Hawk was on the fake FG in Seattle. Always seems to be at least one undrafted player who comes out of nowhere to make the final cut. Very early, but Martini appears to have put himself in a good place.
Glad you bring that up. Everyone hangs it on Bostick but high school players don’t blow that assignment and let a guy blow past him down the field uncovered. Fool