Anyone who watches 3 consecutive hours of preseason football has a right to be agitated. It's as bad as it's always been.
In all fairness, this was worse.
@Badgeman posted:To add to the frustration of this totally shitty game ... is the streaming joke that is 97.3 the fan. Supposed Voice of the Packers. This is the 2nd consecutive game i've lost the signal barely halfway thru the game. Fuck 97.3 "the fan"
Pre-Season for the streaming systems too? 
@PackLandVA posted:I just read this entire thread and the bitching about who Denver put out on the field is comical. Are they supposed to not try because many of the Packers will be selling cars or insurance in a few weeks?? Good grief.
I didn't read the thread that way.
It was quite clear the Broncos played their "ones" for the 1st half. It showed on the scoreboard too. I wasn't upset about that.
What I didn't like was the way the packers were executing the plays on offense & yeah I get the packers scrubs were going up against the Broncos #1's. IDGAF....Play better or get cut
@titmfatied posted:It's just a preseason game. We're killing time for 19 more days. I say this in all sarcasticness, but how dare you criticize those of us who sat through that mess. If you didn't sit through the whole thing you don't understand our perspective .
I have the game recorded from NFLN, but after reading this thread, I think I'll watch paint dry instead of watching the game.
Oh no you owe it to the rest of us. We made Nix look like Elway and had to sit through announcers hype up every positive Donkey play like a spot in the playoffs was on the line. There were drops by everyone, Clifford was bad, but the offensive line was worse. The same guy who wrecked the practice for the Broncos wrecked a whole bunch of plays. There were flashbacks to SBXXXII. Figured when Pratt came in he would do some work on their scraps, NOPE! It was thoroughly miserable.
@PackLandVA posted:I gonna guess the statistical results in the box score are less important to the coaching staff than actually breaking down each play call: did the receiver line up correctly, run the right route, get separation, create an opportunity for the QB to make a manageable throw, etc. If one of the WRs runs 20 routes, but no catches because he wasn't targeted, the line didn't give the QB time to complete the play, wasn't the initial read, etc., well that won't show up in the box score/stats.
I wasnât talking about the box score. I know that means nothing this time of year. What Iâm talking about is the effort and execution, and both smelled as much as a Tennessee outhouse on a hot Saturday night.
Off to Brazil. No more reps needed.
@PackLandVA posted:I don't like Payton at all. Hated that he would run up the score by having Brees chucking bombs in the fourth quarter of blowouts.
That said, I have no problem with him playing starters, second stringers, blitzing, dialing up complex plays, whatever. I didn't get to watch the game, but Denver was trash last year. He's basically retooling the entire roster and trying to create a winning culture. Who he plays and how he calls a game (on offense or defense) is up to him. It's not his fault if the Packers sit 31 players. It's not his fault if the Packers have second and third stringers on the offensive line. It's his job and the coaches to evaluate his players regardless of who is lined up across from them. He has schemes and plays he wants his players to practive in game situations and execute.
I just read this entire thread and the bitching about who Denver put out on the field is comical. Are they supposed to not try because many of the Packers will be selling cars or insurance in a few weeks?? Good grief.
I hear you get top notch graveyard plots at Mile High!
@lovepack posted:Off to Brazil. No more reps needed.
Great steaks too!
I wouldn't worry about Pratt. He gets 3 full years in the Packers' QB school before he's ready to be good.
@mrtundra posted:I feel Pratt will end up being our new version of Favre. Just disable the camera on his cell phone, please!
Right now he is just one of a long line of fan favorite camp QBs, we shall see.
We need a serviceable backup for this season. If Love misses a 3 or for game stretch, weâre fucked.
@PackLandVA posted:I have the game recorded from NFLN, but after reading this thread, I think I'll watch paint dry instead of watching the game.
Congrats on your retirement!
I mean, if there was ever a reason to eliminate preseason it was last night. Thank God I only watched bits and pieces. The Packers looked like they didnât want to be there and honestly unless you are a team like Denver or Chicago or Washington with a new or rookie QB thereâs no reason to play these games.
And save the âwe need to know what we have in our 6th WR or 7th DBâ nonsense. Thatâs what practice is for. They actually might get more out of the team scrimmages than that crap last night.
Just move to 18 or 20 games and get on with it already. Expand the rosters and the players and owners will get a bigger cut. Start the season Labor Day weekend and finish up mid to late January with 2 byes. Heck, throw in a few more international games if thatâs what it takes.
Youâre welcome.
@BrainDed posted:We need a serviceable backup for this season. If Love misses a 3 or for game stretch, weâre fucked.
Every team needs that. There just isn't more than 32 people on the planet that can play the position...and probably only 10-15 that can play the position at a high level.
Bottom line....take Yoga, learn how to fall, don't get injured.
@Tschmack posted:Just move to 18 or 20 games and get on with it already. Expand the rosters and the players and owners will get a bigger cut. Start the season Labor Day weekend and finish up mid to late January with 2 byes. Heck, throw in a few more international games if thatâs what it takes.
Youâre welcome.
You're hired to generate revenue for the league ð
I'm blaming practicing/playing in altitude as a the primary factor for the poor performances.
As someone whose college team regularly plays at 5000 feet+ above sea level, I've seen it humble some very good teams.
R-E-L-A-X...
The game result doesn't concern me at all. Most of those guys won't make the team anyhow. The reports I read from practice with the 1's didn't paint a great picture though either. Altitude does play a role though... I see it in other sports as well when teams visit Colorado.
@BrainDed posted:We need a serviceable backup for this season. If Love misses a 3 or for game stretch, weâre fucked.
The two backup QBs were throwing to (at best) the #4 WR and the #3 TE without a single starting lineman and handing off to the the #4 RB on the team. Sean Payton was calling plays like it was the Super Bowl and MLF/Hafley were running the most vanilla schemes possible. These two QBs lasted in the draft to where they did because they have physical limitations. If they need to try to win a game with these backup QBs, it will be with MLF scheming guys open and designing a game plan to play to their strengths. Last night was barely relevant.
I think you can look at the individual matchups last night and get some insight into how guys are progressing, but it's hard to evaluate a QB in those cases. The concerns I had while watching (with thankfully was about two series for each side) were things like that Luke Van Ness didn't do anything in his one on one matchups (and he was being blocked by one guy). He's a second year mid-first round draft pick - he should stand out at least occassionally in that type of game.
Great point guys! I forgot about the altitude thing. That's how those U.S. Olympic runners trained, in altitude, and they won medals! Those Moroccan, Ethiopian runners had no answer
I still say they were really close to keeping the game competitive. Just a couple plays by the WRs or a throw that was just a little more accurate.....It was 10-0 for a long time.
I'd rather have it happen now when it doesn't count. Learn and don't fuckin let it happen again ð
@Pakrz posted:The game result doesn't concern me at all. Most of those guys won't make the team anyhow. The reports I read from practice with the 1's didn't paint a great picture though either. Altitude does play a role though... I see it in other sports as well when teams visit Colorado.
I am more concerned with hearing that our 1's were consistently dominated in practice as well. The lack of depth at OT is a significant concern in my opinion. Hopefully someone steps up but at the moment I am missing Yosh Nijman.
I mean, sure. Altitude. Itâs 5,000 feet. Itâs not like they were playing on Mt. Everest. These are world class athletes.
Having 2s and 3s going against 1s and not opening up the playbook are much bigger factors but even still their body language sucked, they were a step slow or late, and Denver had something to prove.
I mean, itâs got to be frustrating for a guy like Sean Clifford to go out there knowing heâs got one arm tied behind his back and thereâs not much he can do about it.
I wasn't able to watch the game but then again its preseason so it doesn't bother me too much. I say it every year in preseason the games are really just glorified practices and I hope no one gets hurt.
@13X posted:I am more concerned with hearing that our 1's were consistently dominated in practice as well. The lack of depth at OT is a significant concern in my opinion. Hopefully someone steps up but at the moment I am missing Yosh Nijman.
The fact that Jenkins has shown he can move to tackle and be effective makes the OT depth less of a concern. Jenkins would be a better left tackle than anyone they could sign as a backup anyway. I would have bet that even if Nijman was around that they would have considered moving Jenkins over there if there was going to be an extended absence.
I think a backup O-Lineman will fare better playing with four starters than he will with four other backups. Same really for any of the positions: WR, DL, Db, etc. And the QB probably plays better throwing to DuBose, Watson, and Reed or DuBose, Doubs, and Wicks (assuming line protects) than he does throwing to DuBose and any combination of Heath, Stanley, Hicks, Toure, Wayne etc.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:The fact that Jenkins has shown he can move to tackle and be effective makes the OT depth less of a concern. Jenkins would be a better left tackle than anyone they could sign as a backup anyway. I would have bet that even if Nijman was around that they would have considered moving Jenkins over there if there was going to be an extended absence.
Agreed. I would still like to see our backup OT's play better though.
They need to decide on the starting 5, and they need to play together a lot. Same for our secondary.
@lovepack posted:They need to decide on the starting 5, and they need to play together a lot.
I agree. Cross-training has great value and I think it's helped GB's OL over the years when injuries have taken a toll, but at some point with young guys, you have to give them a job to learn and learn well before asking more of them. Monk's effort isn't surprising considering he's older, more mature, and a fifth-rounder; his job has been on the line since high school.
Has anyone heard about JarVeon Howard in TC? Slight injury? Want to stash him on PS without showing what he's got? Haven't heard a thing about him, and yet he was one of the 31 not on the field.
Joseph's kick is exactly why MN let him go! He looks great, will win a game or two, and then rip your heart out with a layup miss. (No, 47 isn't a layup, but he's done it from shorter distances.)
Given how MLF wasn't happy with the performance in practice or the game, I'm wondering if the team isn't feeling a bit like, "Eh, we'll just show up and it will magically translate to a win"? Here's where Rashan or Preston could step in and school the younger players on what it takes to win in the big leagues.
they looked like they all took advantage of Colorado's dispensaries - not that there's anything wrong with that, but time and place, fellas
@Fandame posted:Given how MLF wasn't happy with the performance in practice or the game, I'm wondering if the team isn't feeling a bit like, "Eh, we'll just show up and it will magically translate to a win"? Here's where Rashan or Preston could step in and school the younger players on what it takes to win in the big leagues.
I wondered about this too. The offense found a high level of success last year in a very short period of time (last 10 games and into playoffs) including running a heavily favored home team out of their own gym in January. That's really all the rookies and 2nd year players know in their NFL lives.
It's one thing to reach a height, another to stay there and then climb higher. Most of the offensive roster hasn't face a ton of adversity and hope they're ready to be the hunted this season.
The offense last year dealt with the adversity of being on a team saddled with a Joe Barry defense.
