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@ammo posted:

Not positive but i think the Whiners flew into Green Bay last night.   According to Flightaware there was only 1 large plane that flew into Green Bay last night from the San Fran area.  It tookoff from San Jose at 4:46 PST and  landed at 10:21 CST.  Just a few more hours for them to acclaimate to the cold.  It won't do them any good. You need days, not hours.

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I'm being honest here.  This will be the first game of these playoffs - hell, in this regime- that I am just going to enjoy watching, no hand-wringing, no bitching, just enjoy this era for being the packers as good quality football.  This will be the end of this era shortly so I am soaking it all up...I think we are the best team in the NFL; warts and all, if we show up and play the way we can, we will be champs again.

@Thunderbird posted:

I saw some of my WI friends post of FB pictures of their car thermometers at -19 today......damn!!

Tomorrow will get colder as the game goes on, probably to around -5 ish. The game will come down to run control and almost assuredly Special Teams.

Unfortunately, we don't really have Special Teams that we can rely on, literally for anything, and certainly don't have someone like Howard who returned for 126 yards and a touchdown in the 1997 divisional.

Packers need to find a way to score nothing but touchdowns and will need to win the field position battle to do so. Stop the run and keep them pinned on the other side of the field all night is really the only recipe to win tomorrow.

Listening to Mike Wahle today , brought up some interesting points. Said that having Deebo ,Kittle , and Juszczyk on the field at the same time is what presents the most problems for defenses. If you put a heavy "run" alignment in, they can go empty, put all 3 of them out as receivers and create all kinds of match up problems in the passing game. If you stay in base defense they get a TE blocking a safety, which leads to explosive run gains. Feels our defensive front has to get penetration to slow the RB. Also to keep an eye on total number of plays that SF runs. Said that when Clark is out we will be very vulnerable to big runs ....he can stretch his snap count to 55 so if SF runs 70 plays that is exposing us to 15 vulnerable snaps. Have to wonder if Barry will not play as much 2 high shell "make them drive the length of the field" defense , but rather take more aggressive chances to try to get SF in third and long plays in an attempt to minimize their total number of plays? Ball control with our offense would help that also.  

@FLPACKER posted:

Listening to Mike Wahle today , brought up some interesting points. Said that having Deebo ,Kittle , and Juszczyk on the field at the same time is what presents the most problems for defenses. If you put a heavy "run" alignment in, they can go empty, put all 3 of them out as receivers and create all kinds of match up problems in the passing game. If you stay in base defense they get a TE blocking a safety, which leads to explosive run gains. Feels our defensive front has to get penetration to slow the RB. Also to keep an eye on total number of plays that SF runs. Said that when Clark is out we will be very vulnerable to big runs ....he can stretch his snap count to 55 so if SF runs 70 plays that is exposing us to 15 vulnerable snaps. Have to wonder if Barry will not play as much 2 high shell "make them drive the length of the field" defense , but rather take more aggressive chances to try to get SF in third and long plays in an attempt to minimize their total number of plays? Ball control with our offense would help that also.  

Hope Barry ditches the two high shell. Be aggressive. Like we were in the Seahawks game.

If I was MLF, I would come in to the game with the strategy that every time you get inside the Niners 40 yard line, you are playing with 4 downs each and every time. I am not punting from that side of the field. I am not kicking a FG barring some extraordinary situation like "kicking a 22 yard FG to win the game as the clock expires".

I would want to come in to the game with everyone knowing that if it's 3rd and 6, they aren't forced in to an obvious passing down. They can run the ball knowing that 4th and 2 they are going for it. Kicking a FG needs to be the rare exception here. MLF, Hackett, and the entire offense needs to know that every option is on the table on those 3rd and 4 type plays. Coming in to the game knowing that is very different than trying to fly seat of your pants real time. 

I don't think that the Packers defense is good enough to overcome settling for FGs. Coming in to the game with the mindset will open up the playbook in that side of the field. 

  1. @FLPACKER posted:

Listening to Mike Wahle today , brought up some interesting points. Said that having Deebo ,Kittle , and Juszczyk on the field at the same time is what presents the most problems for defenses. If you put a heavy "run" alignment in, they can go empty, put all 3 of them out as receivers and create all kinds of match up problems in the passing game. If you stay in base defense they get a TE blocking a safety, which leads to explosive run gains. Feels our defensive front has to get penetration to slow the RB. Also to keep an eye on total number of plays that SF runs. Said that when Clark is out we will be very vulnerable to big runs ....he can stretch his snap count to 55 so if SF runs 70 plays that is exposing us to 15 vulnerable snaps. Have to wonder if Barry will not play as much 2 high shell "make them drive the length of the field" defense , but rather take more aggressive chances to try to get SF in third and long plays in an attempt to minimize their total number of plays? Ball control with our offense would help that also.  

Samuel is far and away No. 1 in “elusive rating,” a Pro Football Focus metric that measures a runner’s success independent of his blockers. Of the 70 players with at least Samuel’s regular-season total of 59 carries, Samuel is No. 1 in yards after contact and Mitchell is fifth. Most of their success is in throws to the middle of the field and RAC. Campbell and Amos will probably get a workout. So I agree that two shell would not be ideal. But who knows? Shanny might know that we know so he knows that we know and decides that he knows better and does something different.

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Samuel's a hell of a player.  We need someone to follow him where ever he goes.

Also, juszczyk is a key player on that offense.  The few games I've seen SF, where ever he goes, the ball seems to follow a majority of the time.

Obviously the cold is one thing but it'll be interesting to see if the field is any "slower" so to speak.  The field itself is pretty stable so I don't see it as a huge advantage for Green Bay. 

Just a feeling but I wouldn't be surprised to see a healthy dose of trick plays for chunk yardage that allows Jimmy Cousins not to get piss pounded in the freezing cold.  Unless Deebo sweeps are constantly successful I think the 9ers will do plenty to keep the heat off of Jimmy.

@Timpranillo posted:

If I was MLF, I would come in to the game with the strategy that every time you get inside the Niners 40 yard line, you are playing with 4 downs each and every time. I am not punting from that side of the field. I am not kicking a FG barring some extraordinary situation like "kicking a 22 yard FG to win the game as the clock expires".

I would want to come in to the game with everyone knowing that if it's 3rd and 6, they aren't forced in to an obvious passing down. They can run the ball knowing that 4th and 2 they are going for it. Kicking a FG needs to be the rare exception here. MLF, Hackett, and the entire offense needs to know that every option is on the table on those 3rd and 4 type plays. Coming in to the game knowing that is very different than trying to fly seat of your pants real time.

I don't think that the Packers defense is good enough to overcome settling for FGs. Coming in to the game with the mindset will open up the playbook in that side of the field.

That would be an interesting strategy.  I think the MLF offense will be fine.  I would also be planning to take advantage of the rule that you can't block below the waist outside the tackles by throwing some screens in there.  A Cobb fake jet sweep and pass to an open receiver would be a nice wrinkle to throw in there too.

@mattschneidman
Packers activated OLB Za’Darius Smith and OLB Whitney Mercilus off IR. LaFleur said yesterday that if either was good to go for Saturday that they’d be activated. So two important guys back for Green Bay’s defense. Smith hasn’t played since Week 1, Mercilus since Week 10.

Someone brought this up in another thread, but how will releasing some of these guys affect special teams? You'd think it couldn't get much worse, but it will be interesting to see what they will do. These are the special teams snap counts from the last game that counted (against the Vikings). They have 8 guys that play ~60% or more of special teams snaps.

Yiadom was a core special teams guy. So is Galeai and it's unlikely he'll be active tomorrow if Merciless and Z. Smith are both active.

https://www.pro-football-refer...#all_vis_snap_counts

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@ilcuqui posted:

From the interwebs:

49ers announced that DL Nick Bosa has cleared concussion protocol and has no injury designation against the Green Bay Packers.

Of course he has.  Was there any doubt?  Even if he's still seeing double, he's playing.

@Floridarob posted:

i just believe the Packers are going to win this thing going away. We will be running out the clock on a long drive with 8 minutes left.

I seem to remember another Wisconsin football team doing that recently.

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