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Originally Posted by fightphoe93:

If there's one thing the last 5 games have taught us, Aaron Rodgers should be voted league MVP for the rest of his career.  This team is the Jacksonville Jaguars without him.

Very similar to Indy when Manning was out.  With him they were 12-4 every year.  Without him they were 2-14.  This Packers team without Rodgers might actually be worse than Indy was in 2011 without Manning.

Originally Posted by ShebPackFan:
Originally Posted by GreenBayLA:

Too late for a spark but why not give Tolzien some reps?

 

Because MM is too d*mn hardheaded.

 

So McCarthy waited too long last week to replace Tolzein with Flynn.  And today he's waited too long to replace Flynn with Tolzein.

 

Go figure.

The guys doing the +/- and thumbs up/down bits will really be challenged after this game. Every aspect was a total humiliation. Jerry Ross prancing up the field after being instrumental in 3 losses for us was particularly galling to me.

I want to find something positive in this, guys. I really do. The turkey smells great here, and in two hours I'm going to be stuffing my face with some incredible food. 

 

But this game has completely ruined Thanksgiving for me. Knowing that Mike McCarthy is going to be going through his Rolodex of post game sound bytes. "We've got to get better", or "we're going to look at doing some things." He'll sound indignant, but this team's failures lay at his feet. This team played like a division AA college team today. 

 

 

 

 

Originally Posted by Blair Kiel:
Originally Posted by antiworst:
Originally Posted by lambeausouth:

Total yardage:

 

Lions 563

Packers 56

 

 


Whiner.

I got nothin'

 

You win. 

 I hope you and your family have a Great Thanksgiving BK. At least we have THAT. And, of course, the best professional franchise in all of sports.

Originally Posted by Va. Packer:

The guys doing the +/- and thumbs up/down bits will really be challenged after this game. Every aspect was a total humiliation. Jerry Ross prancing up the field after being instrumental in 3 losses for us was particularly galling to me.

I would like to find someone to post a + on this game.  Just one person.

Originally Posted by Esox:
Originally Posted by Pakrz:

The 1975 Green Bay Packers are laughing right now.

No ****.  Quite frankly, I can't remember the Packers ever sucking this badly  during a game. 

Easily their worst since that 48-3 MNF loss in Baltimore in '05.

Originally Posted by ShebPackFan:
Originally Posted by Va. Packer:

The guys doing the +/- and thumbs up/down bits will really be challenged after this game. Every aspect was a total humiliation. Jerry Ross prancing up the field after being instrumental in 3 losses for us was particularly galling to me.

I would like to find someone to post a + on this game.  Just one person.

The only + is it's over.

Originally Posted by PackLandVA:

McCarthy's pat calling with Flynn is atrocious. What's with all the 7 step drops and deep balls??? Where is Starks?? Why is every run play into Detroit's strength between the tackles)???

I'll throw a "positive" out there. Those worried that Flynn would somehow price himself out of the Packers budget should sleep soundly.

 

For those worried that he may actually be the Packers backup going forward...........I got nuthin for you.

Originally Posted by excalibur:
Originally Posted by PackLandVA:

McCarthy's pat calling with Flynn is atrocious. What's with all the 7 step drops and deep balls??? Where is Starks?? Why is every run play into Detroit's strength between the tackles)???

Can he throw a football?

Originally Posted by antiworst:

Have a good Thanksgiving everyone! Family and friends are what it's all about!

Back atcha.

 

Dinner on the table.

 

Life is good.

Originally Posted by lambeausouth:

This might be unfathomable as a Packer fan, but what about Lovie Smith? He's a very good defensive coach. His teams always go after the ball. They strip unlike any team I've seen before. Or, lure Bill Cowher out of retirement. 

 

We need to do something, and I'm not so sure I want to wait until next season to make a move. 

Hell no to Lovie Smith (because he's Lovie Smith, and because they'd switch to a 4-3, rendering Matthews far less effective). Cowher is only coming back if he can get full control over the personnel. Mike deserves another shot next year, but Dom has to go.

Originally Posted by ShebPackFan:
Originally Posted by antiworst:
Originally Posted by lambeausouth:

This might be unfathomable as a Packer fan, but what about Lovie Smith? He's a very good defensive coach. His teams always go after the ball. They strip unlike any team I've seen before. Or, lure Bill Cowher out of retirement. 

 

We need to do something, and I'm not so sure I want to wait until next season to make a move. 


I'd take Lovie Smith as a DC in a minute.


So would I.  I would even take him as a HC too.

No way Bill Cowher, no way.

 

Lovie as DC, yes. As HC? TT won't fire MM after this season,. but if he did and he hired Lovie he would need a top notch OC to go along with that. Come to think of it, even with MM back TT needs to find a top notch OC.

Originally Posted by ShebPackFan:
Originally Posted by Va. Packer:

I'm not ready to see MM or TT gone. Can we just agree the fan created deity that was Brett Favre was more than enough? And the attempts at transference were foolish. Posts like TT must have brilliantly put out the rumor Flynn had an elbow injury, when in truth Flynn plain sucked are one example. And GB had to go back to him because of the cluster**** they made of the backup QB situation after Flynn cashed in.

 

We aren't the deepest most talented team. We're not the best coached team. We lost the teams lynchpin and it all went to hell. There is a great foundation though.


Rodgers is the franchise and the foundation.

Which is why TT needs a top OL to protect him as he ages.

Originally Posted by Esox:

Flynn as proven himself to be a waste of a roster spot.  There's more upside with Tolz.

1 TD, 5 INTs, 66.8 passer rating.  That's an upside?  I don't know how they do their ciphering at Wisconsin, but that isn't much of an upside.

Originally Posted by da Yooper:
Originally Posted by Esox:

Flynn as proven himself to be a waste of a roster spot.  There's more upside with Tolz.

1 TD, 5 INTs, 66.8 passer rating.  That's an upside?  I don't know how they do their ciphering at Wisconsin, but that isn't much of an upside.

Originally Posted by Grave Digger:
Gonna be a lot of sore knees after all these reactions.

Just a loss. It's embarrassing, but there's nothing to be done. Move on.

 

Nothing to be done? Wake the **** up sir. It's time for some major changes at 1265 Lombardi. 

 

Why was this entire team totally unprepared to play today??

Originally Posted by Boris:

Nothing to be done? Wake the **** up sir. It's time for some major changes at 1265 Lombardi. 

 

Why was this entire team totally unprepared to play today??

Must've been all Dom Capers fault.

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