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@Herschel posted:I just had mine examined. I have my finger on the pulse of the board, I guess.
I’m going in for a MRI on mine tomorrow
From Michael Rodney: The biggest knocks on Joe Barry have always been that he’s not very aggressive and that he’s either unwilling or unable to make adjustments. The Packers’ second-year defensive coordinator lived up to, or more accurately, down to those criticisms the first three weeks of the season, and Sunday was a new low. Facing a rookie third-string quarterback, Barry still refused to deviate from a vanilla scheme that relies on getting pressure with four rushers and using a two-high shell to limit explosive plays. And while Bailey Zappe completed only 1o passes for 99 yards, the former Western Kentucky star never seemed rattled and turned the ball over just once. Worse than Barry’s lack of aggressiveness was his failure to react when the Patriots employed a tackle at tight end. Even though his front seven was getting gashed – Rhamondre Stevenson and Damien Harris ran for 152 yards – he never put an extra lineman on the field. Yes, the defense deserves credit for stepping up late in the fourth quarter and in overtime, but there’s no way an offense led by Zappe and Brian Hoyer should’ve scored 17 points against a unit that boasted five No. 1 picks, an All-Pro inside linebacker, and one of the best edge rushers in the NFL. That only occurred because Barry allowed it to occur, and if he doesn’t change, there’s a decent chance he’ll wind up being this year’s Mo Drayton – the biggest reason the Packers go home early for the 12th straight January.
Yoe tell jj watt that he aint playing
@YATittle posted:From Michael Rodney: The biggest knocks on Joe Barry have always been that he’s not very aggressive and that he’s either unwilling or unable to make adjustments. The Packers’ second-year defensive coordinator lived up to, or more accurately, down to those criticisms the first three weeks of the season, and Sunday was a new low. Facing a rookie third-string quarterback, Barry still refused to deviate from a vanilla scheme that relies on getting pressure with four rushers and using a two-high shell to limit explosive plays. And while Bailey Zappe completed only 1o passes for 99 yards, the former Western Kentucky star never seemed rattled and turned the ball over just once. Worse than Barry’s lack of aggressiveness was his failure to react when the Patriots employed a tackle at tight end. Even though his front seven was getting gashed – Rhamondre Stevenson and Damien Harris ran for 152 yards – he never put an extra lineman on the field. Yes, the defense deserves credit for stepping up late in the fourth quarter and in overtime, but there’s no way an offense led by Zappe and Brian Hoyer should’ve scored 17 points against a unit that boasted five No. 1 picks, an All-Pro inside linebacker, and one of the best edge rushers in the NFL. That only occurred because Barry allowed it to occur, and if he doesn’t change, there’s a decent chance he’ll wind up being this year’s Mo Drayton – the biggest reason the Packers go home early for the 12th straight January.
Whoa, I hope this is just one man's opinion .
I didn't think we were that bad . Top 5 and everything.
MLF did mention in his presser today that they may have to bring a safety down in the box, although he thought that the biggest problem with run defense yesterday was our guys not being "physical enough". For the record, the best I can tell , Barry played a run-stopping" "Bear front" on at least 27 of 58 snaps ...the Pats played 6 o-lineman on 17 snaps.
Amos being out caused all kinds of fuckery with our run D…not a huge defender of Barry…but shit got sideways once 31 went out.
@Brewcrew posted:+ one of the Wisconsin teams won this weekend
Wish the Hawkeyes would send their guy packing like the Badgers did. Not gonna happen, though!
Biggest plus of this game for me was watching Gary continue to become a dominant edge rusher. Russ Balls will have his work cut out for him again this year.
@ilcuqui posted:@ByRyanWood: Matt LaFleur confirms #Packers planned to have David Bakhtiari play two drives, then Yosh Nijman the third: "We got into halftime, and Dave just said, 'I'm going.'
[Bakhtiari played 70 of the 73 plays on offense.]
Fukin ay, Bakh!
So many shitty Bakh takes (not here) have gone down in flames the last two weeks.
--- Twice now, in consecutive games, the opposing teams the Packers faced, scored TDs after the play clock had expired. How can the refs miss that?
I have no qualms about the TB no call, that was so close to within a tick, the refs have to let that play go.
I didn't see the one against the Pats since I had to take my dog to the emergency vet, but this one sounds pretty bogus.
Thanks for your concern. He was going to be 15 next month, but he didn't make it.....we had to put him down.......he was an awesome dog and lived a good life. I'm glad he's not suffering anymore.
So very sorry, Tbird. It's hard to lose a pet, especially a long-time one. My condolences. 
Back to the pluses and minuses: Forgot who mentioned this: ++ When we upped the pace, our offense looked familiar. I hope the coaches consider varying tempo.
This made a huge difference. When Rodgers lets the clock wind all the way down, it's like racehorses who get stuck in the starting gate: it takes them a bit to really hit their rhythm. Rodgers has said in previous years that he liked the up-tempo game, and I'm not sure when they (he?) went away from it but they need to bring it back.
@Thunderbird posted:Thanks for your concern. He was going to be 15 next month, but he didn't make it.....we had to put him down.......he was an awesome dog and lived a good life. I'm glad he's not suffering anymore.
We put our 16 year old down last week (he lived 1+ years beyond what the vet had ever seen before in his breed), and could not agree with your sentiments anymore.
Sad times, happy memories.
Found on the internet:
"What’s frustrating is that New England was tipping its hand and showing off that it was a one dimensional offense — and the Packers still could not stop the Patriots."
Yup, there's the Pats lining up with 6 O-Linemen and Joe Barry has BOTH safeties playing back, 2 D-Linemen & 2 OLB up on the LOS with HUGE gaps for the Patriots to run through. I would love to know what the hell Joe Barry was thinking just then, especially as the Patriots continued on back-to-back scoring drives in the 2nd half to absolutely gash the Packer's run defense. I mean WTF Joe!!!???
I know I mentioned this yesterday but even as I speed-watched the 2nd half again last night, I just couldn't believe it. Not only does Joe Barry continue to watch it, but MLF does absolutely NOTHING either. Put a damn safety near the line, bring in some extra BEEF, and MAKE Zippy Zappe beat you! If I was MLF I would have been in Barry's ear...
I didn't like the MLF hire when he was first named HC. He quickly won me over with all the winning. But after last year, after the whole keeping Mo Drayton when it was obvious to EVERYONE he needed to go just (That's just one thing), LaFleur kept him and IMO it cost them their 14th Championship. We're seeing his lack of experience on display weekly, but the most glaring issue is HE DOESN'T EVER LEARN FROM PAST MISTAKES!
Common Matt, it is time... It's time you learn from all these past mistakes and STOP repeating them.
Watching SF, the aggressiveness of the defense jumps off the screen at you. Watching the Packers, most the time it feels... I don't know the word, uninspiring.
Guys like Jaire, Douglas and Gary play with heart and fire. I don't know if that uninspiring appearance comes from passive play calling, the coach or if it's the players, but there is a real difference there.
@YATittle posted:Found on the internet:
"What’s frustrating is that New England was tipping its hand and showing off that it was a one dimensional offense — and the Packers still could not stop the Patriots."
Yup, there's the Pats lining up with 6 O-Linemen and Joe Barry has BOTH safeties playing back, 2 D-Linemen & 2 OLB up on the LOS with HUGE gaps for the Patriots to run through. I would love to know what the hell Joe Barry was thinking just then, especially as the Patriots continued on back-to-back scoring drives in the 2nd half to absolutely gash the Packer's run defense. I mean WTF Joe!!!???
I know I mentioned this yesterday but even as I speed-watched the 2nd half again last night, I just couldn't believe it. Not only does Joe Barry continue to watch it, but MLF does absolutely NOTHING either. Put a damn safety near the line, bring in some extra BEEF, and MAKE Zippy Zappe beat you! If I was MLF I would have been in Barry's ear...
I didn't like the MLF hire when he was first named HC. He quickly won me over with all the winning. But after last year, after the whole keeping Mo Drayton when it was obvious to EVERYONE he needed to go just (That's just one thing), LaFleur kept him and IMO it cost them their 14th Championship. We're seeing his lack of experience on display weekly, but the most glaring issue is HE DOESN'T EVER LEARN FROM PAST MISTAKES!
Common Matt, it is time... It's time you learn from all these past mistakes and STOP repeating them.
I am not sure what was on the internet and what was or wasn't your thoughts. So is your answer to the problem to fire Joe Barry now???
@Floridarob posted:I am not sure what was on the internet and what was or wasn't your thoughts. So is your answer to the problem to fire Joe Barry now???
None of this is from me.
@Thunderbird posted:I have no qualms about the TB no call, that was so close to within a tick, the refs have to let that play go.
I didn't see the one against the Pats since I had to take my dog to the emergency vet, but this one sounds pretty bogus.
How is your pup doing?
@Thunderbird posted:Thanks for your concern. He was going to be 15 next month, but he didn't make it.....we had to put him down.......he was an awesome dog and lived a good life. I'm glad he's not suffering anymore.
Sorry for your loss. In my opinion, it is harder to lose a long time pet. Bawled like a baby when I put our 18 year old cat to sleep.
@BrainDed posted:Watching SF, the aggressiveness of the defense jumps off the screen at you. Watching the Packers, most the time it feels... I don't know the word, uninspiring.
Guys like Jaire, Douglas and Gary play with heart and fire. I don't know if that uninspiring appearance comes from passive play calling, the coach or if it's the players, but there is a real difference there.
It was the same with TB's D two weeks ago though I think they were a little banged up.
@SteveLuke posted:We put our 16 year old down last week (he lived 1+ years beyond what the vet had ever seen before in his breed), and could not agree with your sentiments anymore.
Sad times, happy memories.
Sorry for your loss, Steve.
@BrainDed posted:Watching SF, the aggressiveness of the defense jumps off the screen at you. Watching the Packers, most the time it feels... I don't know the word, uninspiring.
Guys like Jaire, Douglas and Gary play with heart and fire. I don't know if that uninspiring appearance comes from passive play calling, the coach or if it's the players, but there is a real difference there.
Man, this post just makes me sad. The possibilities are there but yet again we have the wrong man calling the plays.
I don’t recall what game it was last year, but Jerry Gray filled in as defensive coordinator. I remember seeing a different energy and aggressiveness for the defense that game. He certainly deserves a shot if Berry moves on. I was impressed and thinking we have someone very capable waiting in the wings. I get the sense by MLF’s comments he wasn’t too happy about Berry not adjusting when they were getting trucked.
The story that YA shared was a bit hyperbolic, but it does make me wonder why a HC wouldn't talk to the DC during a game if they are having a problem, and ask what can be done to change/correct it.
In other words,
Last drive of OT up on YouTube...watch it before they NFL gets all pissy and they take it down...
Such masterful play calling and execution...this is a MLF dream drive IMO.
Loved watching that drive again. A couple of things that I thought: Smert of Lizard to make the catch, cover with both hands, and go down. Wasn't taking any chances on losing the ball. Surprising how much room the DB gave Doubs on the back-to-back catches outside; the DB was playing way off not to get beat deep and Rodgers and Doubs just played pitch-and-catch for almost 20 yards. On the next play, the DB was right on the line. And then something you don't see too often: on the second down at the 13 when they stacked up Dillon, Rodgers was right at the back of the scrum; it seemed like he was there to protect in case of a fumble -- heady play. And then the smooth snap, putdown, good protection, and Mason is money.
One thing that I found interesting was that Belichik did not use his last timeout to try to break GB's momentum. He used it to try to ice Crosby, but I might have considered using it a little earlier to give my D a break and stop the flow of GB's offense as MLF was really on a roll with his play-calling, as Chongo pointed out.
What really made that drive was MLF saw them selling out to stop Jones on the first two plays and he sent in Dillon for the rest of the drive. They were not going to stop that guy and Rodgers at the same time.
And that flashed me back to the idiocy of using Dillon on Special Teams in that Niner playoff game as he could have done the same thing to ice the game on that drive late in the contest.
Get used to it. Bisaccia uses starters on ST's and that's not going to change. The difference now is they actually get results from it. But there is that risk involved.
@PackerHawk posted:Get used to it. Bisaccia uses starters on ST's and that's not going to change. The difference now is they actually get results from it. But there is that risk involved.
BUT when a key part of the offensive game plan is NOT AVAILABLE when you need him.... I wouldn't expect to see Aaron Jones or Aaron Rodgers on ST either.
Jones maybe but not Rodgers, I can agree there.
I mean, you want guys on ST's that are going to make them better. 
I think it was during Family Night when Aaron Jones was like the 3rd guy returning kickoffs. So yes, Aaron Jones is somewhere in the ST plan. Might not ever be used but it's possible.
Did Belicheat really think he could "ice" Mason? How many final kicks has he hit? Maybe make the holder and the snapper a little nervous but when the talking heads saying they are going to "Ice Crosby" I just . And then
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