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@WolfPack posted:

based on what? Id love to believe this but we were just taken to the last second of OT at home by one of the worst teams in the NFL who was forced to go to their 3rd string QB and without their best WR.

I guess any team has the potential. Happy we got the W but many concerns across the board today.

Sandwiched in between the Brady game and the London trip looked like a cream puff at home. Gotta bring it every week.

Based on potential for WR growth and improved run defense.  

If 87 doesn’t fumble and holds on to that TD, this is a different game.   If Watson can start to contribute in the pass game, we can improve even further.

If Walker can improve in run D as the season goes on and maybe Wyatt contributes, our D improves.

If the stars align, we have potential to play with anyone in the NFC.

@BrainDed posted:

Based on potential for WR growth and improved run defense.  

If 87 doesn’t fumble and holds on to that TD, this is a different game.   If Watson can start to contribute in the pass game, we can improve even further.

If Walker can improve in run D as the season goes on and maybe Wyatt contributes, our D improves.

If the stars align, we have potential to play with anyone in the NFC.

Ifs and buts are like candy and nuts.



- lots of work needed on defense.  A surprise 3rd string WB should not be carving up our defense.

You don’t really believe Zappe β€œcarved up” the Packers’ D, do you?? The Pats ran at will, but Zappe was 9 for 14 for 74 yards. Oh, I guess you can include the 25 yard TD that was snapped about 2-3 seconds after time expired when nobody covered Parker. Even with that play, he hardly carved up the D.

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@PackLandVA posted:

You don’t really believe Zappe β€œcarved up” the Packers’ D, do you?? The Pats ran at will, but Zappe was 9 for 14 for 74 yards. Oh, I guess you can include the 25 yard TD that was snapped about 2-3 seconds after time expired when nobody covered Parker. Even with that play, he hardly carved up the D.

I think you just answered your question

@PackLandVA posted:

Yeah, he was far from β€œcarving up the defense”. Even with the TD, his numbers were pedestrian, not even 100 yards passing.

So what you’re  saying is, for a third string QB who didn’t expect to be playing this season, let alone tonight, 100 yards in his limited time plus a touchdown is acceptable against our vaunted 1st strong defense?  Carved up is a figure of speech.  Would you prefer bamboozled our defense?  Either way, if you think it’s acceptable, you’re entitled to you opinion.

As has been mentioned a win in the NFL is that a win.  I do however question the whole lateral at the end of the game, they do realize that the Pats could score on that just as well and it’s game over.  

I totally agree, I’ll take it any day of the week. That’s not to say there are things that can’t improve.  For fucks sakes, I didn’t think 100% buy in was required to post here.  Far be it for anyone here to have an opinion on something critical, which everyone here has done, but if they don’t agree with your take, you’re rong.  Next I expect to be called racist.  FFS.

You’re right.  Nothing to be concerned with tonight.  It was a perfect performance.  God forbid someone be critical.

God forbid someone be optimistic.   That’s how this pissing match started.  I posted a if our rookies improve we could be tops in NFC opinion and you slapped your nuts and candy on it.   So I parlayed back.

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You would have thought GB lost from some comments on here. No, it wasn't pretty, but like MLF, not gonna apologize for the W.

My take on Doubs' catch/no catch is that he gathered in the ball, had complete control, gets in two steps while being tackled, controlled the ball all the way to the ground, he falls on his arm so the ball never touches the ground, and the ground caused the fumble. Should be a TD.

https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/34714724 = See it here

I'd also say that the snap, hold, and kick on Mason's winner was about as pretty as a snapper, holder, and kicker can do it. The snap rotated perfectly with the laces away from Mason when O'Donnell caught it, O'Donnell put it down easily, and Mason swung it through. Smooth. All of them were Money!

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@Fandame posted:


My take on Doubs' catch/no catch is that he gathered in the ball, had complete control, gets in two steps while being tackled, controlled the ball all the way to the ground, he falls on his arm so the ball never touches the ground, and the ground caused the fumble. Should be a TD.



Nope, he has to maintain control through hitting the ground. The two steps were him going to the ground, not running upright, there is a difference. If running upright and defender knocked it out after two steps it is a TD .... but when going to the ground you have to maintain control. Pretty much everyone , MLF, AR , and TV rules analyst included, acknowledges this.

Rodgers needs to play like a MVP, HOF. etc and learn to play with the players they have.

Amen.  I was surprised how off he was on many of his short to intermediate throws. The deep throw to Doubs in the end zone that he lost after hitting the ground was a great throw though.  Kind of sucks for Rodgers that 2 of his best throws this year were dropped, but he needs to be better on the shorter  stuff than he has been so far this year.

- bitching about the D. NE has a good OL and was running U Bacon most of the game. Coupled with the fact you have the Packers wanting Gary and Preston on the field most of the time leaves you vulnerable against the run.



- missed delay of game. The sole purpose of replay is GETTING THE CALL RIGHT!!! All scoring plays are reviewed so everything on said scoring play should be reviewable! 2nd week in a row opponnets got a td when they shouldn't.

Positives:

A win is a win in the NFL.  One of the things I like about the NFL over college football is that style points just don't matter in the NFL you win and move on.

I like that MLF will stick to the run and won't abandon it.   

You can see having #69 on the field makes a huge difference in the OL

Honestly how long has it been that we can watch a game and think that the defense can actually hold the other team down in big spots?  I don't remember exactly what Romo said but something to the effect that this is the best defense he has seen in GB in a long time and I have to agree.

Negatives:

I hate seeing Amos go down

Jenkins had some plays where he got beat but that can be expected from time time until he gets back in shape.

Its a little concerning that the defense at times gets run on quite a bit but the pass defense definately makes up for it.

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