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How many will we win?

These folks say 12-5

https://newarena.com/nfl/2022-...ons-for-all-32-teams

Week 1- @ Minnesota Vikings — LOSS
Week 2- vs. Chicago Bears — WIN
Week 3- @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers — LOSS
Week 4- vs. New England Patriots — WIN
Week 5- vs. New York Giants — WIN
Week 6- vs. New York Jets — WIN
Week 7- @ Washington Commanders — WIN
Week 8- @ Buffalo Bills — WIN
Week 9- @ Detroit Lions — LOSS
Week 10- vs. Dallas Cowboys — WIN
Week 11- vs. Tennessee Titans — LOSS
Week 12- @ Philadelphia Eagles — LOSS
Week 13- @ Chicago Bears — WIN
Week 14- BYE WEEK
Week 15- vs. Los Angeles Rams — WIN
Week 16- @ Miami Dolphins — WIN
Week 17- vs. Minnesota Vikings — WIN

Rams get top seed, they say.

What say you?

YA

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Not exactly sure what New Arena is about, but does this seem realistic?

Arizona - 3 wins and 14 losses?  

I think the Cards could win 4 or 5 games with Jordan Love as their starter.

LA Rams and SF are a bit bullish and given Stafford’s elbow and Lance’s unknown factor I can’t imagine you just pencil them in for 14-3 and 12-5 records.   Lance might be a dud and in that case they are more like an 8 or maybe 9 win team.   If Stafford misses time or is dinged I don’t see them winning 14.

Could be a year where the good teams will be really good and the bad teams could be awful.  

Buffalo, Baltimore, Cincinnati, KC, LA Chargers, Tampa, GB, and the LA Rams could all win 12 or more games.  

On the other hand, Seattle, Chicago, Detroit, Atlanta, the NYG, the Jets, Jags, and Texans could all lose 12 or more games.  If Deshaun Watson is suspended for the season the Browns may also be included in that list.

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That is an interesting take, that maybe the NFL is turning into the NBA where when you're good, you go all in.  And when you're not, you tear it all down.  I could easily see those teams winning 12 and that other list losing 12. 

Opening day loss to Queens wouldn't surprise me given it's a brand new offense we are seeing, much like game 1 of the Nagy era in Shit-cago giving us trouble game 1. But it also wouldn't surprise me to see us go in there and boat race those motherfuckers either.

From my ESPN+ account


Green Bay Packers
Chances to make the playoffs, per ESPN's FPI: 70.7%
Achilles' heel: Wide receiver
You've probably heard about this one before! The Packers have a great one-two punch at running back with Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon, and quarterback Aaron Rodgers is coming off consecutive MVP seasons, but let's look at their receivers:
Nominal No. 1 receiver Allen Lazard averaged 1.25 yards per route run and commanded targets on only 15.1% of his routes a year ago. Unsurprisingly, he has been more productive without Davante Adams on the field, averaging 2.44 yards per route run without Adams in the lineup over the past three seasons, but that's on a total of just 169 routes, which isn't a particularly large sample. Lazard already has built-in chemistry with Rodgers, but is that enough to make him a true top-tier receiver?
Sammy Watkins averaged a career-low 30.3 receiving yards per game with the Ravens a year ago. The oft-injured wideout sat out four games, bringing the 2014 first-rounder to 30 games missed over the past seven seasons. He also dropped five of his 48 targets, contributing to a subpar catch rate of 55.1%. Watkins already is dealing with a hamstring injury.
Longtime Green Bay standout Randall Cobb returned to the team at Rodgers' behest last offseason. The veteran slot receiver is a reliable pair of hands and turned 21 of his 28 catches into first downs, but the Packers used him for just under 20 routes per contest a year ago. He was targeted a mere four times on passes 20 or more yards downfield, and three of those attempts were by backup Jordan Love. Cobb is mostly going to be an option on screens and slants.



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How does Rodgers' hype of Romeo Doubs impact the WR's draft ranking?The Fantasy Focus cast discuss why Aaron Rodgers' hype of rookie Romeo Doubs should put the WR on your drafting radar.
Amari Rodgers, a third-round pick last season, ran 40 routes all season, catching four passes for 45 yards. He primarily served as a kick and punt returner. Reports out of Packers camp suggested he showed up in better shape than he had as a rookie, which could lead him to push Cobb for snaps in the slot.
Rookie second-round pick Christian Watson started camp on the PUP list after undergoing knee surgery this summer. The Packers traded up to grab Watson with the No. 34 pick, suggesting they see the 23-year-old as a first-round talent, but he already was expected to need some time to adjust to stiffer competition after playing at FCS school North Dakota State. Even Jerry Rice needed most of his first season in 1985 to adjust after playing for Mississippi Valley State before breaking out with a 241-yard game in December. Watson might turn out to be the next great Packers receiver, but it would be a surprise if he is an instant star.
The guy getting the most hype at Packers camp right now is fellow rookie Romeo Doubs, who was drafted in the fourth round. Aaron Rodgers hasn't exactly been shy about praising Doubs, comparing his big plays in camp to players who ended up as career receiving leaders for Green Bay.
Doubs might turn out to be a steal, but the odds are against any fourth-rounder making an immediate impact. Ninety wide receivers have been drafted in the fourth round since 2000, and not a single one has managed to top 1,000 yards in their rookie season. Just four drafted in the fourth round over that timeframe have topped 1,000 yards in any of their pro campaigns: Jerricho Cotchery, Brian Hartline, Brandon Lloyd and Brandon Marshall, with the latter pulling off the feat eight times.

The odds are against Doubs, but if there was ever an opportunity for a player to come out of nowhere and do something spectacular, it would be in a situation just like this one. Somebody will break out for the Packers. It could be Doubs or Lazard or maybe tight end Robert Tonyan, who returns after missing most of the 2021 season with a torn left ACL. Maybe they add Odell Beckham Jr. as the season goes along. We know Rodgers will be able to hold up his end of the bargain. Now it's on one or more of the Green Bay receivers to emerge.

I think the NBA is a different ball game.  With player movement, even most bad teams can become good in a short period of time.  There’s also no hard cap so for a team that wants to spend into the luxury cap (like Golden State) they can keep a team together.

In the NFL, if you are bad (see the Jets, Jags, Giants, Lions) it’s much harder to crawl out of the cellar.  And I’d argue the level of suck for those bad NFL teams is significant for the top teams.  The Pats won for 20 years because they could beat up on terrible divisional teams.  Same with the Packers.  

That being said, the NBA playoffs tend to be more predictable because it’s not one and done.  The better teams usually win out.  If the Packers and Niners played best of 7 there’s almost no scenario where SF wins 4 out of 7.  Not unless Rodgers gets hurt.

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In the 2010 season...
The Mighty Green Bay Packers played the NFC east and the AFC east

In the 2022 season
The Mighty Green Bay Packers play the NFC east and the AFC east

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We have history - 3 years of it to be exact.  Until it doesn't happen and I am forced to put any thought into why I would pick a certain record I will go with three years of Packer tradition - 13-4.  Then, in spite of a great defensive performance, GB will have an early exit in the playoffs.  And MLF will come in 2nd as NFL COY.  It happens every fall. 

My prediction is always the same as what the goal is (or should be).
Sweep your division and split the road games. The 17th game can swing either way without major playoff implications (knock wood!).

So... 13-4.

@Tschmack posted:

Not exactly sure what New Arena is about, but does this seem realistic?

Arizona - 3 wins and 14 losses?  

I think the Cards could win 4 or 5 games with Jordan Love as their starter.

LA Rams and SF are a bit bullish and given Stafford’s elbow and Lance’s unknown factor I can’t imagine you just pencil them in for 14-3 and 12-5 records.   Lance might be a dud and in that case they are more like an 8 or maybe 9 win team.   If Stafford misses time or is dinged I don’t see them winning 14.

Hell, some boob predicted a 12 win season for the Vikes!

One thing that’s tough to predict is when/if Bahktiari, Jenkins, and Tonyan can return to a high level of play after coming off injuries.  If none of those 3 can return to their original playing skill, that’s a massive loss that would be tough to overcome.

They couldn’t overcome the loss of those guys last year and let’s just hope at least a couple of those guys get back to what they once were.

I’ll say 12-5 just because we’ll likely start the season not at full strength.

14-3. We sweep the NFC North. We possibly lose to the Bills, Miami and Philadelphia. The hype surrounding our Defense says we could go undefeated. But I'm saying 3 losses, this season. No way do we lose to the vikings. Detroit is our toughest NFC-N opponent and they come in 2nd Place in the division, behind us and just ahead of the vikings. GO PACK, GO!!!

Das Gute comments from article at  The Athletic   ( pay)

"There’s an effort to be balanced in 2022, tabbing Rich Bisaccia as their special teams coordinator and building a defense that executives around the league believe will be even better than last year’s strong group.

“I’d like (the identity) to be one of those teams that is so well-rounded that we can win however we have to win, whether that’s offensively, defensively or special teams, whether we’ve got to outscore a team or hold them,” Gutekunst said.

“Each game in the National Football League, you never know what it’s going to require, so you have to be strong enough in all three aspects. We’ve been really strong in different areas over the years. One of the things that maybe held us back in the playoffs is maybe we’re not strong enough in one area and that seems to bite us. Being well-rounded and strong in all three areas is going to be important for us. I don’t really look at it as (having) an identity other than winning how we have to win, when we have to win.”

That comment reminds of the famous Al Davis byte:

Just win, baby

And that quote is kinda interesting because Al Davis trained Ron Wolf, who trained TT, Gute and others.

Go Packers  

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From Warren Sharp:

Net rest between games vs getting hosed by the schedule makers
details in the notes section. Red = bad

MLF is going to have to be super diligent with Team 103
Keeping them healthy, wealthy & wise is Job 1 for the 2022 campaign

https://www.sharpfootballanaly...trength-of-schedule/

Jesus.

Just show the fuck up for the games on the schedule.

And be better than your opponent.

You’re welcome.

I won a lot of soccer games hungover because I was better and played better than my opponent.

I didn’t need a stupid algorithm to tell me if I was going to win.

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@Satori posted:

There were some interesting comments about the "net rest advantage" some teams enjoy.

I have to think, in this day and age, computers could either prevent this or minimize it to a large degree. The MNF and TNF are likely flies in the ointment, but neither are going away anytime soon.

I would still like to see 2 bye weeks during the season, with all teams off at the same time. Maybe when the league goes to an 18-game season and eliminates the preseason...

@Timmy! posted:

There were some interesting comments about the "net rest advantage" some teams enjoy.

I have to think, in this day and age, computers could either prevent this or minimize it to a large degree. The MNF and TNF are likely flies in the ointment, but neither are going away anytime soon.

I would still like to see 2 bye weeks during the season, with all teams off at the same time. Maybe when the league goes to an 18-game season and eliminates the preseason...

There's no way the NFL would ever go dark for two weeks in the fall.

I think they should do two bye weeks for each team and set up the schedule so that teams coming off bye weeks play each other on Thursday night football. The Thursday night games are often the worst football of the week because of the condensed preparation and the limited physical recovery time after a Sunday game.

The Packers have won 4 Superb Owls to date  - and the 4 teams they defeated in those Title games have a combined 17  Lombardi's between them.
That was some stiff competition.

2022 Vegas odds suggest: Bills, Chiefs, Chargers, Broncos, Ravens are most likely AFC representatives for the big game and these teams have a 12 SB losses between them. Add in the Bengals and it jumps to 15.

Crosby is coming up on some legends of the game in terms of career FGs Made
He's only 4 short of passing Jan Stenerude and if he converts on 30 this year, he'll hit the 400 FGs Made milestone - that's rare air in the NFL

Currently sitting at # 17 All time

https://www.pro-football-refer...aders/fgm_career.htm

Also sitting at # 3 among active players, behind Robbie Gould and Gostkowski

https://www.pro-football-refer...aders/fgm_active.htm

Drafted as the 3rd of (3) consecutive 6th round picks back in 2007, Crosby has lasted 16 yrs in the NFL. His first NFL FG was good from 53 yds in the opener at Philly.

I know many of you fine X4 posters aren't Crosby fans, but the guy has made a lot of clutch kicks for the Mighty Green Bay Packers.

I suspect this will be his final season in Titletown -  and I'm predicting he goes out on a high note in 2022, the last year of his current deal. If this is it, he'll have earned $43M in his NFL career, not bad for a 6th rounder



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