Favre stirring the pot. Final revenge on his old team.
@michiganjoe posted:Favre to @richeisen: "They don't draft any weapons that can help immediately, to my knowledge. That sends a disrespect message to Aaron Rodgers. He has every right to be disappointed, if he is."
â Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) April 29, 2020More from Favre: "I think they burned a bridge that will be hard to overcome. At some point, it will rear its ugly head."
â Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) April 29, 2020
Favre also had an interview on Monday where he apparently re-wrote history and talked about how he helped and mentored Aaron as a rookie. Those concussions have likely caught up to Bert because those who listened to the interview and remember Favre's cold shoulder to young AR certainly remember it far differently. Likely Rodgers does as well.
Jerk. I'm boycotting all the products he advertises on TV.
Is Rodgers scared?
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No question- heâs declining. The deep ball certainly is the most noticeable decline- he underthew a LOT of deep balls last year. And if youâre running a power run game to draw defenders into the box, you will get a lot of big vertical strike opportunities.
But it maybe itâs his knee- his mechanics had to be all sorts of fucked up while he was playing on one leg- and as smart as he is, this possibility (even probability) canât escape him as a source for his decline in play. There will be no shortage of subplots this coming season...
@Satori posted:IMO Rodgers has plenty of weapons, he just needs to run the offense that MLF spent his career refining. GB was 3 points/ game away from being a Top 10 offense and 5 pts/ game away from being a Top 5 offense.
A few tweaks here and there and a RB who can close out games...
GB offense will be a top performer in 2020 with the roster they have
And #1 in WR separation. Bullshit. This team needs a legit #2.
Both are true:
Packers really needed to upgrade the WR group.
AR leaves a lot of throws on the field in search of the big play.
As far as Favre goes, can't believe AR is particularly happy with his diarrhea of the mouth. Probably should have just left it at surprised by the Love pick.
It's times like these that you find out what a guy is really made of, if he's a pro's pro, and how he wants to be remembered. We'll see what comes out in Rodgers as time goes on... besides a lot of cliches!
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Favre with the revisionist history
He just can't help himself.
FFF
Last years first round pick contributed next to nothing, now we are looking at this years first round pick contributing next to nothing on teams with superbowl aspirations.
Frustration isn't unwarranted
Who'd they draft last year? Gary Coleman?
AR has over 30 million reasons to STFU and play football... at a high level.
@Henry posted:Bullshit. This team needs a legit #2.
Yes, and his name is Equinimeous St. Brown and he's already on the roster
EQ's a better WR in 2020 than all but a few of the WR's that fans were lathered up for in the draft. He's a top athlete, he's been in the system for 2 years, he's in tip top shape and he won't be negatively impacted by the abbreviated offseason like a rookie would. WRs often come into their own in year 3, he's in year 3
https://www.mockdraftable.com/...equanimeous-st-brown
He's also proven himself on the field and in the classroom.
Here's a couple of highlights with YAC, RAC and even a CRACK to end the video
The throw vs the 9ers in 2018 was with the game on the line and he makes a spectacular catch and gets out of bounds to stop the clock with 15 seconds left, allowing GB to get in position to win the game.
QB1 trusts the guy in crunch time, that's huge for a young WR.
I hopes you right. I like EQ, he was doing some good stuff in the slot but he's still a wait and see proposition.
I am also hopeful EQ is a legit #2...problem is, we've got a bunch of WR in the same mold. We could have really used someone more in the Cobb or Gerg mold to round out this unit. Funchess, EQ, Lazard, MVS...all kinda the same dude. Outside of 17, we just don't have an explosive guy.
But, that said, few rookie WR make an explosive impact in their first year.
So GB should pin their hopes on a guy drafted at the end of the 6th round that has basically done nothing in the league and is coming off an injury that put him on IR.
Solid plan indeed.
Itâs gonna be really funny in 3 years when GB flips Jordan Love for a high 1st rounder and re-signs Rodgers into his 40âs. Manufactured drama is dumb...GB wants Aaron Rodgers until he doesnât want to be in GB anymore or until he hangs it up. Murphy isnât going to allow the summer of 2008 to happen again and if he allows it then he should be fired. GB was tired of Brettâs retirement bullshit, Aaron wonât waffle and they wonât take a hard stance with him like they did Brett.
As I noted, I'll be thrilled if Rodgers retires a Packer in Jan 2027.
Bert is just being the pot-stirring twat we've all come to know.
Just because he and 12 have mended fences doesn't mean his corn-pone bullshit is any more sincere. Don't fool yourselves...he'd love nothing more than shit to go south between 12 and Gutenwhacker/MLF.
Move along here...nothing to see...
Don't worry about Rodgers. He has stated publicly that he is aware that he may not finish his career in GB. He's a pro, and a damn good one at that. He knows it's a business.
@Henry posted:I hopes you right. I like EQ, he was doing some good stuff in the slot but he's still a wait and see proposition.
Unlike all the rookie WR's who are a 100 % sure thing ? 
You'll eventually come around...with a name like this, he can't possibly suck
Equanimeous Tristan Imhotep J. St. Brown
@Chongo posted:I am also hopeful EQ is a legit #2...problem is, we've got a bunch of WR in the same mold. We could have really used someone more in the Cobb or Gerg mold to round out this unit. Funchess, EQ, Lazard, MVS...all kinda the same dude. Outside of 17, we just don't have an explosive guy.
But, that said, few rookie WR make an explosive impact in their first year.
Cobb is an Old Style slot, but MLF likes the bigger guys who can handle the pounding inside and are smart enough to handle the changes at the LOS.
When MLF was in ATL, he had Sanu in the slot. When MLF was in LA he had Cooper Kupp in the slot. Both of those are big WRs 6'2 and 200+
- not at all in the mold of the old slot WR.
Gute commented on his WR stable as well:
"I think generally smaller guys have a harder time staying healthy than bigger guys," Gutekunst said
On the explosion side, completely agree, there's always a need for that skillset
You mentioned something else- "they are all the same dude" and I sense that's the case for a lot of the fan base - which is why many are so dismissive of EQ.
But that cat can play.
@Chongo posted:Bert is just being the pot-stirring twat we've all come to know.
Just because he and 12 have mended fences doesn't mean his corn-pone bullshit is any more sincere. Don't fool yourselves...he'd love nothing more than shit to go south between 12 and Gutenwhacker/MLF.Move along here...nothing to see...
A quick glance at gossip haven PFT says all we need to know about what is driving this story. When 4-5 of your top 10 blog posts are GB/Rodgers/MLF/Love oriented, you know that milking this story for all it's worth will pay the bills, no matter how much BS you have to sling. GB was 8-3 and about to run the table on the reg season in 2019, and Florio was still insisting there was a feud destroying the locker room. Add to that the fact that quarantine has left outlets scraping the bottom of the barrel for something to talk about, and we get what we have here this week. Idc how Rodgers responds, or doesn't. If he insists on making it an issue, which I seriously doubt he will, he can follow the path of #4 and walk away with a shattered legacy. If nothing else, this will flush out where ppl stand, and continue proving that sports media needs to create drama where it doesn't exist.
@artis posted:Idc how Rodgers responds, or doesn't. If he insists on making it an issue, which I seriously doubt he will, he can follow the path of #4 and walk away with a shattered legacy. If nothing else, this will flush out where ppl stand, and continue proving that sports media needs to create drama where it doesn't exist.
If, or more likely when the Pack moves on from Rodgers after the 2021 season to allow, then 3rd year player, 2020 1st round pick Jordan Love his shot at QB Rodgers legacy will be pretty, pretty close to Favre's legacy.
Great QB who won 1 SB in his 14 years as a starting QB.
Then, the debate will ensue whether it was Rodgers who failed to lead the Pack to multiple Super Bowls or the Packer organization that failed to surround Rodgers with sufficient talent.
I think within the loyal fan base the former will win out.
I think whatâs key is itâs tough to round out your roster when you are paying the QB 15-20% of your cap.
This is the concern I have with Rodgers. I know thatâs what the market rate is for decent QBs, but take a look at the highest paid QBs in the league. Ryan, Stafford, Cousins, Goff, Rodgers. All of those teams have flaws or holes in the roster. And they canât be filled unless you hit home runs in the draft or donât miss at all on free agents.
NFL teams are set up by where you draft a young QB and hope you nail it while they are still cheap and affordable. Sometimes it works (like Mahomes) and sometimes it doesnât (like Trubisky).
Teams arenât going to stop looking for the next young QB because once a QB obtains that big contract the team is on the clock and has to reset or be OK with being OK- sort of like what the Packers are dealing with now with Rodgers. Sure, they can make the playoffs but this isnât a contending team. Not with the question marks at WR and DL and LB and TE and probably OL.
New England finally got there but take a look at the Rams. Or the Seahawks from a few years ago when Wilson was younger. I mean, they looked like they would be dynasties at the time. The Rams are a mess and the Seahawks are nowhere near the Legion of Boom days. Why? The QB eats up too much cap space and you canât fill out the roster accordingly because even Ron Wolf GM types (ie the best) arenât perfect.
The moment the Packers gave 12 that deal they were already thinking about how to move on in the future hence the Love pick. Rodgers is a smart guy and he knows this. He also knows that things donât last forever. Take a look at Manning, Rivers, Brady, Montana, Favre, etc. Teams move on. Some team will be willing to give 12 a shot even at that ridiculous salary knowing heâs probably half or two thirds the player he was in 2010-2011. That player isnât ever coming back folks. And this roster isnât good enough as assembled to get them over the hump until they clear cap space to add a few more players and free agents. It also assumes in 2-3 years that Love is legit.
This is much more of an 8-8 team than a 13-3 team we saw last year.
@Fandame posted:It's times like these that you find out what a guy is really made of, if he's a pro's pro, and how he wants to be remembered. We'll see what comes out in Rodgers as time goes on... besides a lot of cliches!
Rodgers is a big picture thinker. Heâs concerned about global issues. To think heâll respond the same way as Favre is ridiculous. Favre has wide open empty space between his ears. Doesnât mean I didnât like him as a QB.
@PA green & gold posted:Rodgers is a big picture thinker. Heâs concerned about global issues. To think heâll respond the same way as Favre is ridiculous. Favre has wide open empty space between his ears. Doesnât mean I didnât like him as a QB.
I agree. I don't know what's in AR's head but he sure seems like a guy who is a realist about his situation and truly cares about his legacy as a Packers QB. He knows the big picture and has said he is a realist about how long he can play and surely he heard the Gute quote that he would consider a QB high in the draft.
As for Favre? As if the media isn't bad enough (Floria is a Spermhead fan BTW) along comes Bert who once again seems petty with his vendetta against the Packers.
@Pakrz posted:So GB should pin their hopes on a guy drafted at the end of the 6th round that has basically done nothing in the league and is coming off an injury that put him on IR.
Solid plan indeed.
No shit. Equanamious St Ruvell Janis, at your service. Now, if you want to believe MVS had a "sophomore slump", that's probably a stretch as well, but at least there's more to go on.
@Satori posted:Yes, and his name is Equinimeous St. Brown and he's already on the roster
EQ's a better WR in 2020 than all but a few of the WR's that fans were lathered up for in the draft. He's a top athlete, he's been in the system for 2 years, he's in tip top shape and he won't be negatively impacted by the abbreviated offseason like a rookie would. WRs often come into their own in year 3, he's in year 3
https://www.mockdraftable.com/...equanimeous-st-brown
He's also proven himself on the field and in the classroom.
Here's a couple of highlights with YAC, RAC and even a CRACK to end the video
The throw vs the 9ers in 2018 was with the game on the line and he makes a spectacular catch and gets out of bounds to stop the clock with 15 seconds left, allowing GB to get in position to win the game.
QB1 trusts the guy in crunch time, that's huge for a young WR.
Ok I admit that the attached highlight real has some promising moments so Iâll give you that.
I still think GB needed/needs to add a bonifide #2 guy to add to the offense. Sure, AL and even EQ could develop into that legit guy but banking on it seems a bit of a stretch, especially at this point in ARâs career.
I think BG and MLF agree they needed an upgrade at WR, based on pre and post draft comments. Just "didn't fall that way".
Still have vivid and painful memories of the NFC championship game and remain more concerned about the porous run defense than the receivers (though I agree they needed to upgrade).
Well at least they upgraded the defensive line.
Wait.
"Some have speculated"
Good to review the EQ video. He's a little faster than I remembered, and he does have some shiftiness. Let's see if he can stay healthy and on the field. If he does work out to a No. 2, then fielding Adams, EQ, and Lazard as your top three is not a bad lineup -- not a Jordy/Cobb/Gerg lineup, but terrible. Your 4 is Funcheese and 5 is WWJ, MVS or some other acronym.
@Chongo posted:Bert is just being the pot-stirring twat we've all come to know.
Just because he and 12 have mended fences doesn't mean his corn-pone bullshit is any more sincere. Don't fool yourselves...he'd love nothing more than shit to go south between 12 and Gutenwhacker/MLF.Move along here...nothing to see...
The funniest thing about Favre's statement is that he said something to the effect of "I can guarantee you this, and I don't know for sure, but I can guarantee...." Lol.
Bert is a slapdick attention whore. People lap up his aww shucks corn-pone bullshit like it's ice cream. Trust nothing that comes out of his mouth that pertains to 1265.
Also, I don't think he and 12 are quite the 'ol pals Bert likes to think. I think they are friendly, but I don't think they are palling around.
@Chongo posted:Bert is a slapdick attention whore. People lap up his aww shucks corn-pone bullshit like it's ice cream. Trust nothing that comes out of his mouth that pertains to 1265.
Also, I don't think he and 12 are quite the 'ol pals Bert likes to think. I think they are friendly, but I don't think they are palling around.
Bert wants to create the scenario that would serve him best. Nothing more. Dragging the organization and helping AR come full circle could only help #4's legacy. Rodgers is probably at least 10 times smarter than Rube, so even if he felt a need for vindictiveness, he understands what a hypocrite that would make him in the public domain. Personally, I think Rodgers will come to camp and quite enjoy showing the rook just how good he still is, and possibly come to enjoy the unofficial process of mentoring. The players and organization can make what they choose out of this. They can allow the salacious media to steer the story, or come into camp ready to get after a ring. It's all within their control.