Guess everyone forgot the 2 turnovers too.
MichiganPacker2 posted:A guy like Randall Cobb?
The lost the game tonight because they couldn't stop the run, but not resigning Cobb for relatively modest money (5 million a year) was the most puzzling decision of the last off season.
At the risk of being hindsight, the way the entire year unfolded bears out that Cobb would have really helped on this team. The only guy AR trusted was 17. That second security blanket is mandatory for reaching a SB. The trip from Nelson, Cobb, Jennings, Jones to only Adams has been rough. And we saw how much Rodgers wanted to trust Graham. Slot guy and young TE with an upside should be major priorities now.
I'm not sure that Cobb makes a huge difference, but I do think it would have been better to have him on board, and it was a shortsighted move that saved a relatively meaningless amount of cap money...
How many games would he have been available. Seemed like he couldn't stay healthy in GB.
There were a few reasons that Cobb was let go, money, age/health and they thought at least one of the guys on the roster would step up, they didn't.
The Packers are 1-3 in NFCC games in the Rodgers era, and the sole win is because BJ Raji had more touchdowns against a backup quarterback than Aaron Rodgers had throwing (who also had two interceptions).
Atlanta, Rodgers threw one interception and fumbled three times and lost two. San Fran, Rodgers threw two interceptions (one in garbage time) and fumbled twice and lost one. Incidentally he also had two interceptions against Seattle.
Did numberthree get his screen name because he is #3 in the line of those most vocal against Rodgers - after Cowher and Bayliss?
One of the people I have followed over this is season is Dusty Evely, who has a twitter feed and does a feature at cheesehead tv, where he breaks down the passing concepts and execution of the Packers offense. It is incredibly informative and he doesn't pretend to know everything. What is most interesting is what the concepts and routes are designed to attack and how little a casual fan can see off of TV copy. If anything, it reinforces to me that armchair criticism of Rodgers for decision-making is just uninformed, especially when you see in slow motion what he is seeing realtime and what the progression of reads is. I get the criticism of off-platform throws and accuracy and that's fair. But criticism of the Rodgers INT before halftime, for example, is ridiculous. That was a miscommunication with Allison, who saw something different. How about the Rodgers fumble? He trusted that the OL would pick up the blitz (Turner whiffed) and Saleh knew what the hot read was on the 3-WR bunch, so he couldn't get the ball out because Dee Ford sprinted over to cover the oh-so-slow Kumerow who was the hot read. Should Rodgers protect the ball better to avoid the fumble? Yep. It just does to show that the whole thing at SF was a shit show. It would be great for Rodgers to be super human every week, but it really is a team game.
NumberThree posted:The Packers are 1-3 in NFCC games in the Rodgers era, and the sole win is because BJ Raji had more touchdowns against a backup quarterback than Aaron Rodgers had throwing (who also had two interceptions).
Atlanta, Rodgers threw one interception and fumbled three times and lost two. San Fran, Rodgers threw two interceptions (one in garbage time) and fumbled twice and lost one. Incidentally he also had two interceptions against Seattle.
I was just thinking about how small AR came up in that Atlanta game. Yeah, their DB's were decimated and they needed MVP AR to have a chance and all they got was that.
The Seattle game was them settling for 3 instead of going for 6. It seems to me equally on AR and MM.
And we all knew that they needed the GOAT in the last one, and the first half offense was nowhere.
Lazard makes a funny. https://packerswire.usatoday.c...-2005-combine-photo/
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EC, yes. And people thought that cracks about his height pizzed him off...
50k Club posted:It would be great for Rodgers to be super human every week, but it really is a team game.
THIS ^^^^ I think in a team game the QB gets to much glory when a team wins and to much criticisms when it is going wrong. Am I saying AR is perfect hell no but a lot goes in to winning and I think to much lies on #12 when he has a Capers defense on the other side, MM settles for 3 and the onside kick happens, etc.
I keep seeing Packers fans saying that Rodger needs to go which is just crazy dumb to me. Get him some real help on offense and watch and see this offense become lethal.
EC Pack posted:Great, he’ll never see another pass.
Or he'll only get rocket balls on 5yd slants.
Lazard can only have fun with Rodgers like that if they are really good friends. I can't wait for AR's comeback.
Pretty sure Rodgers already made fun of his Lloyd Christmas haircut. Should be fun.
EC Pack posted:Great, he’ll never see another pass.
He already got Lazard back by commenting on Lazard's photo of himself running his 40 at the combine.
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Brady is hailed as a competitor and winner with a mentality like this. Rodgers get called a diva when he's given Jeff Janis' and MVS', who haven't earned his trust, and refuses to throw to them or gets dialed in on Adams. By the same count, this is why some guys don't get as much PT as fans would like...Rodgers more/less dictates which receivers get to see the field and I don't have a problem with that. You pay a guy $30M per year to throw the ball and make decisions on the field, let him choose who he wants to throw to.
Tom Brady relayed what he told Bill Belichick when a receiver wasn't dependable: "I don't have any trust that this guy can help us win the game. If you put him out there, I'm not going to throw him the ball."
— Doug Kyed (@DougKyed) April 8, 2020
Said Belichick always saw it the same way.
They were social distancing before it was cool.
I watched SB 51 last night and what struck me was who we had on the field as receivers: Jennings, Jones, and Nelson. Driver was injured so Swain saw the field. No wonder AR looked elite then but not as much now.....
Think that was answered pretty definitively yesterday. As long as AR plays within the system, takes what the defense gives him and limits the sandlot play he's as good as any QB in the league.
It was good to see him appear to finally buy into the system. He still took shots downfield as he should but time and time again he took the short 3-7 yard reads that kept the chains moving. Keep it up!
12 was elite yesterday because he didn't change the plays too often. He let MLF call the offense, he waited for his opportunities to get big chunk plays, and it worked to perfection.
People want to point to the young corners the Queens had...bullshit...with all the time he had, he would have completed those passes if Deion Sanders and Derrell Revis were the CB. Queens pass rush was largely negated...because the OL owned their asses. All damn day.
It’s not complicated: he has confidence in the coach, defense, and his skill guys and he wasn’t pressing. Everything has relied heavily on him to do everything for so long that it’s taken him a minute to adjust to being part of a system again. It’s been a decade since he’s been part of a system and not THE system.
Dare we think Rodgers got the message about following what MLF dials up or else he's on borrowed time, coach-wise and career-wise? It didn't look like he tried to change plays very often yesterday; he just ran what he was given. When he got the chance to go downfield, it looked easy. Playing what the D gave him and what MLF wanted him to play made things easier on the OL (even with the shuffling), kept up the tempo, kept Rodgers from holding the ball, kept everyone in the game, and it produced a big day for the O. So different from last year when it seemed disjointed and Rodgers was still trying to do his own thing. It's hard to argue when there were ZERO sacks, barely any pressures, and your O goes off for more than 500 yards.
I think you’re thinking of Rodgers in terms of Favre, Fandame. Rodgers is an intelligent guy and player, I don’t think feels any heat and I don’t think the organization really has any leverage. He doesn’t need a coach to reign him in, he needs a coach who isn’t stuck in a rut and he can respect. If Love gets PT and looks like the second coming of Mahomes then maybe, but until then GB and MLF need Rodgers A LOT more than he needs them. He will find work tomorrow if GB cut him while the Tim Boyle or Jordan Love eras would be rocky at best. He wants to play well because 1) he’s insanely competitive and has standards for himself 2) he wants another SB and 3) honestly he’s auditioning for his next team over the next 1-3 years.
Based in some comments he made this offseason, it sounds like he got his head right off the field. Don’t know if he’s resolved family drama, got rid of toxic relationships, or just figured out wtf he needed to get right, but it sounds like he’s done it.
Somewhere, Skippy Bayless and Mike Florio are sobbing softly.
@Grave Digger posted:it sounds like he got his head right off the field. Don’t know if he’s resolved family drama, got rid of toxic relationships, or just figured out wtf he needed to get right, but it sounds like he’s done it.
He started eating chicken again is my best guess. Getting rid of ball-busting Danica didn't hurt either.
MVP baby.
Telling ya, he said he WAS WATCHING FILM FROM 10 YEARS AGO. Said he saw some things and that he decided to implement AGAIN. 
He went back to taking his Flintstones vitamins.
Who on the team was, or even played up to their potential?
Other than Jordan Love of course.
