I'm not sayin....I'm JUST SAYIN....
Best TD/INT ratios in NFL History (min. 38 TD passes):
— Daire Carragher (@DaireCarragher) December 29, 2020
1. 2020 Aaron Rodgers - 8.80 🧀
2. 2014 Aaron Rodgers - 7.60 🧀
3. 2011 Aaron Rodgers - 7.50 🧀
4. 2020 Patrick Mahomes - 6.33
5. 2007 Tom Brady - 6.25
6. 2016 Aaron Rodgers - 5.71 🧀
That stat seems to be unfairly weighted toward Rodgers.
Min 38 TD passes? WTF!?
That does seem like a randomly cherry-picked number.
Weeds out QBs who are not legit MVP candidates I would guess? If you’re not throwing >35 TD passes then you’re not a candidate unless you’re also a running QB like Lamar. I’m guessing the stat wants to show Rodgers vs. other great QBs.
I agree MichiganPacker on the minor league system in the NFL. It’s not viable although I wish they could figure something out. Something about how guys non-starters compete in preseason that I sincerely enjoy. I think NFL minor leagues would fun to watch. Pro football is more enjoyable to watch because games are tightly timed and are more organized, but the atmosphere in college and level of effort is better. Combine those two into a lower league and I think that would be seriously fun.
A spring league?
Tried that with NFL Europe.
@Blair Kiel posted:That does seem like a randomly cherry-picked number.
It is probably not all that random. That’s exactly how to game the system with shady statistics.
@Grave Digger posted:Weeds out QBs who are not legit MVP candidates I would guess? If you’re not throwing >35 TD passes then you’re not a candidate unless you’re also a running QB like Lamar. I’m guessing the stat wants to show Rodgers vs. other great QBs.
Bullshit! Do a search of MVP winning QBs. How many failed to throw 35? Did Starr ever hit 30?
“Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are pliable.”
@Pikes Peak posted:“Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are pliable.”
Liars looove them some statistics.
@Goalline posted:Bullshit! Do a search of MVP winning QBs. How many failed to throw 35? Did Starr ever hit 30?
In the last 30 years, it’s only not happened a handful of times. Hard to compare QBs across eras like that considering Starr’s MVP year he threw 250 passes, which Rodgers had thrown by game 7 this year. I agree with you it’s a overly specific stat that is weirdly exclusive to other QBs. Starr’s TD:INT was 7, that would be 4th best in this list.
Fedya is the best-looking poster here between the ages of 41 and 41.5.
That's a statistical fact.
You have the 75-75.5 demographic locked down here.
Hateful ™.
But thanks!
@FLPACKER posted:There was no such thing as the "2 yard TD pass" in Starr's time. The year he won MVP he threw exactly one TD pass (out of 14) of less than 10 yards.
@Grave Digger posted:In the last 30 years, it’s only not happened a handful of times. Hard to compare QBs across eras like that considering Starr’s MVP year he threw 250 passes, which Rodgers had thrown by game 7 this year. I agree with you it’s a overly specific stat that is weirdly exclusive to other QBs. Starr’s TD:INT was 7, that would be 4th best in this list.
Then he should have limited it to the last 30 years. Of course, that leaves out a whole lot of pro-football and sounds less impressive.
@Blair Kiel posted:Fedya is the best-looking poster here between the ages of 41 and 41.5.
That's a statistical fact.
No, it is not. Fact is he is the ugliest guy in that age range. 
It’s a useless twisted stat that is just meant to give Rodgers more credit. It’s funny because Rodgers has enough real stats to justify endless praise. It’s like comparing Tom Brady and Blake Bortles by saying Blake Bortles has never been beaten in a Super Bowl and Brady has twice.
Amen. He didn't have to do that.
@Blair Kiel posted:Fedya is the best-looking poster here between the ages of 41 and 41.5.
That's a statistical fact.
I'm 39 like Jack Benny.
"There are three types of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- Mark Twain
Been thinking about legacy this morning. It's such an important thing to @AaronRodgers12 (and all great players). I think Sunday is a legacy moment for him. It's an opportunity to beat the Bears, clinch a third MVP and set the stage for a Super Bowl run as the No. 1 seed. Huge.
— Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) January 2, 2021
Agree completely with this. Big legacy moment for AR and I expect him to play accordingly.
Atlas
Tough to compare QBs over different eras due to style changes and updates to rules that in modern times really allow QBs to accumulate ridiculous numbers.
Phil Simms has 2 rings and won an MVP in the SB. Dude has 199 career TD passes. Call him a game manager all you want, but his completion percentage of 88% against the Broncos still stands today.
When you consider the caliber of defenses that guys like Simms played against not to mention DBs being allowed to hand check I think you can normalize the stats somewhat. In today’s wide open NFL receivers are basically allowed to run free and QBs always get the benefit of the doubt when he comes late hits or hits at all. Not that long ago, QBs got pummeled routinely by the likes of LT and Reggie and Derrick Thomas and Bruce Smith and let’s not forget the head hunting DBs like Ronnie Lott that could take your head off and not have to worry about getting flagged for hitting a “defenseless” WR.
I’m actually more impressed with what WRs like Sharpe and Rice and others did back in the day. They had to really earn their numbers. Trevon Diggs or Antonio Brown would have been broken in two had they played back then.
@Tschmack posted:I’m actually more impressed with what WRs like Sharpe and Rice and others did back in the day. They had to really earn their numbers.
Agree, but I always have to bring up Hutson.
Back in the day before the day, his numbers for that era are astounding and he also played D in some of those games too.
OK, you've all convinced me. AR is not elite
Hooray! Another convert
What's above elite?
Noble? Exclusive??
Supercalifragalisticexplealadecious?
@Dr._Bob posted:What's above elite?
Mega elite. Only surpassed by Ultra elite.
@Dr._Bob posted:What's above elite?
Rodgers-like, assuming you're talking about football QBing.
Where does super elite fit in?
@Goalline posted:Where does super elite fit in?
Your pants.
In @WiStateJournal and on @madisondotcom ~ Forget the huge numbers. To understand why #Packers QB Aaron Rodgers should win his third #NFL MVP, read Matt LaFleur's explanation of what Rodgers did on his 72-yard TD pass to MVS (and what LaFleur almost did). https://t.co/tq0PvX6qQw
— Jason Wilde (@jasonjwilde) January 4, 2021
Aaron Rodgers off play-action:
— PFF (@PFF) January 4, 2021
🔸 21 TDs
🔸 0 INTs
The most TDs off play-action with 0 INTs since 2006 🤯 pic.twitter.com/6kbwNyfMQu
