Hungry5 posted:Rodgers is having an incredible year
• 17 pass TDs, 2 INT
• 2718 yards
• 64.8 completion %
• 102.7 passer rating
• Excellent leadership
What's ridiculous is that neither INT is truly his fault. Not much you can do with tipped passes that get picked.
Grave Digger posted:Agreed, I think that's why we're seeing him spend more time making throws from the pocket rather than playing streetball. Almost all of his great throws this year have been from the pocket. When he has confidence he's safe he tends to drills some beautiful throws.
When he can throw as soon as he gets to the end of his drop back, he's a totally different QB and it's a totally different offense.
When he has to avoid pressure (often) is when I hold my breath. He can create magic like the TD pass to Williams, or it might be a dicey throw to a covered receiver.
Or he gets sacked...
Holding your breath with AR12 is a lot different than holding your breath for TOG. Towards the end I was expecting an INT on almost every pass.
"Streetball" is unbelievably effective when it's the exception not the norm. I think #12 always reverted to that because McVince, especially the last 3-4 season, provided no better option.
Never holding my breath with Rodgers, just the occasional ##$%$$#@&&*%$!!! when he throws the 3rd down bombs.
I sometimes wonder if the "3rd down and long" deep ball he seems to throw on occasion is really just a throw away with the potential for better results. Think about it, these are the scenarios (realistic, anyway):
-deep ball incomplete = punt
-deep ball completed = first down = yay!!
-deep ball with defensive PI = first down = yay!!
-deep ball picked off = probable punt field position
Whereas if he just chucks one out of bounds or into the turf, it's a punt.
Agreed. Rodgers protects the ball pretty damn well even on those downfield heaves. If he's throwing into coverage that thing is on a rope.
ammo posted:Holding your breath with AR12 is a lot different than holding your breath for TOG. Towards the end I was expecting an INT on almost every pass.
Nailed it.
Hungry5 posted:He wants Championship"s".
Plural
Yes please!! But honestly, I'd be thrilled with one more. It's hard to win a Super Bowl
Not if you are Brady and Bellicheat. 
Grave Digger posted:Hungry5 posted:Rodgers is having an incredible year
• 17 pass TDs, 2 INT
What's ridiculous is that neither INT is truly his fault. Not much you can do with tipped passes that get picked.
I always thought there should be a separate stat/category for tipped passes -- especially when it's a receiver tipping the pass to a defender. The throw was perfect yet the QB gets credited with an INT.
ammo posted:Not if you are Brady and Bellicheat.
Don't get me started.....
Why not? I love seeing the riled up Boris!!!
He's having fun again because the outcome is no longer totally on his shoulders. He's been carrying this team for so long that it's got to be a relief to see the D make plays, Jones and Williams stepping up, etc. Plus, he's no longer counted upon to make super-human throws; the tap-passes, short bubbles, screens, etc., are a chance for him to make easier throws. Overall, whether he wants to acknowledge it or not, he has to appreciate the fact that the weight of the world is no longer on his shoulders only.
Are we talking about AR here or Boris?
Both 😉😁
ammo posted:Holding your breath with AR12 is a lot different than holding your breath for TOG. Towards the end I was expecting an INT on almost every pass.
Some might read this and think its an exaggeration....but you are right on the money. Agonizing
We went from one extreme to the other. I like the current situation better 
I really am serious. I expected a INT on almost every pass. And he didn't disappoint on his last pass thrown as a Packer. He threw to the only guy who was covered.
“He’s just a kid out there...”
I get some of you still having butt-hurt over Favre, but some of the comments are ridiculous. Favre is in the HOF and was a 3-time NFL MVP. The guy could QB. Get over it already.
"Butt-hurt" LOL. I reckon people can choose who they like and who they don't. Dude was a turnover machine.
Found this old rant from 2011. Still holds on my end.
This was in response to a poster (Vitaflo) saying:
"With Rodgers though, you hear no such (negative) rumors or stories. In fact, we may have Brett to thank for teaching him something after all, what *not* to do in your career/life."
PackLandVA posted:I get some of you still having butt-hurt over Favre, but some of the comments are ridiculous. Favre is in the HOF and was a 3-time NFL MVP. The guy could QB. Get over it already.
I loved the guy as a player, and he might have been the best QB I've ever seen in the 1995-1997 years when Holmgren got him under control. Yes, he's a HOFer, but if he'd have played with the same discipline he did in 2007 (MMs influence) and 2009 (Childress somewhat controlled him), the years from 1999-2006 could have made him the best of all time.
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PackLandVA posted:I get some of you still having butt-hurt over Favre, but some of the comments are ridiculous. Favre is in the HOF and was a 3-time NFL MVP. The guy could QB. Get over it already.
You seem to be butt-hurt that everyone isn't still fawning over your hero. Interesting that you haven't gotten over it yet. But he could probably throw an interception on 5th Avenue and you would still idolize him.
He could definitely QB -- But I'll never forget the way he treated the Packer Org.
I know it would've been a circus, but I would've put him backing up Rodgers, then trade him before the trade deadline. If he caused issues, suspended for conduct detrimental to the team. Would've been amazing.
I'm glad he brought a Super Bowl title to Green Bay. I literally cried when they won it all in 1997 because I didn't think I'd ever see it in my lifetime.
Then I saw it a 2nd time....with Rodgers
Do I lose 2 souls to Satan now??
He was good in the Wrangler commercials, I chose to remember that!
PackLandVA posted:I get some of you still having butt-hurt over Favre, but some of the comments are ridiculous. Favre is in the HOF and was a 3-time NFL MVP. The guy could QB. Get over it already.
Make me.
Bike racks! 7 o'clock!
The guy is a HOFer and a giant PIA at the end.
Dr._Bob posted:PackLandVA posted:I get some of you still having butt-hurt over Favre, but some of the comments are ridiculous. Favre is in the HOF and was a 3-time NFL MVP. The guy could QB. Get over it already.
You seem to be butt-hurt that everyone isn't still fawning over your hero. Interesting that you haven't gotten over it yet. But he could probably throw an interception on 5th Avenue and you would still idolize him.
That's a cute reply.
He's not my hero. And the drama surrounding him and the organization regarding his retirementS was ridiculous. And I wasn't thrilled how how he handled the whole "divorce". Nope, at the time I was pretty disappointed. I have no problem with anyone not liking him anymore, or thinking of him as a traitor. Or thinking that he blew his legacy as a Packer. Not for me to decide.
But this nonsense about ability as QB is just dumb. Love him or hate, the guy was one of the greatest QBs in the history of the NFL. Some on this board act (by comments) if he was a marginal QB that had sporadic success.
Henry posted:PackLandVA posted:I get some of you still having butt-hurt over Favre, but some of the comments are ridiculous. Favre is in the HOF and was a 3-time NFL MVP. The guy could QB. Get over it already.
Make me.
Bike racks! 7 o'clock!
The guy is a HOFer and a giant PIA at the end.
Okay, Tough Guy! I'll be there! (unless you meant 7A - then I overslept)
And it better be just you. I don't need to see Butch and Woim backing you up.
Oh, which bike racks? :head scratch:
Then you completely missed the point of most of the posts here. Most people here acknowledge his ability and contributions to the team, but also recognize his propensity for interceptions, especially toward the end. Do you seriously not see that?
One of Favre's absolute worst throws and worst decisions in his Packers career was probably his last throw. There's no doubting that. And maybe that's on the forefront of a lot people's mind (and the whole departure from the org)But....
Favre's interception rate in his last season (2007) with the Packers was the lowest as a Packer since 1994-1996 (2 MVP seasons in there). And the season before (2006) was only bested by 6 seasons in his total of 16 as a Packer. So yeah, I guess he had a "propensity for interceptions, especially toward the end."
Maybe some people have selective memory. Do you seriously not see that?
He can be an all time great passer, a HOF QB, and an all time great Packer and still be selfish, a pain in the ass and occasionally a burden to his team/organization. Those things aren’t mutually exclusive. I don’t dislike Favre, but you can’t just look at one side of him and make a judgement. He shit the bed in key moments and caused a lot of drama, but he also was key to bringing the franchise back to relevance, winning a SB, and possibly even shaping/motivating our current HOF QB.
Just a bit more discipline and a bit less gunslinging and perhaps he has another ring or so. He was fun, he was exasperating, he and Reggie put GB back on the map. Thanks Brett and Brent.
Favre was a great player who ascended along with the Packers return to glory.....then Holmgren left and he became a reckless egomaniac.
Sherman's fault.
Good thing Myles Garrett wasn't playing Brett Favre last night. He would've got his ass whooped.
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That man @AaronRodgers12...
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ARs greatest throw was the one that did not count because of a penalty. Truly amazing. Bent sideways and perfect touch into endzone
After an off-season in which his leadership was questioned, the Packers are soaring behind a new coach, a new offense, a new culture — and their rejuvenated quarterback.
Good NY Times piece on AR.
Greg Jennings still cant get over it. He is in serious need of therapy.
https://bleacherreport.com/art...s-with-aaron-rodgers
