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With two family members having not only played, but excelled at Southern California, you would think that with a name like Clay Matthews III that he would have been one of the team's elite recruits. However, 160-pound high school players do not have Pete Carroll knocking on their door, no matter what his last name is. Still, after joining the team as a walk-on, putting in three years as a reserve and a special teams player, Matthews wrote a terrific final chapter to his college career that could end in April with him joining his father and uncle as USC first-round selections.

When the Matthews family gets together during the holidays, that gathering is filled with athletes. It all begins with Clay's grandfather, Clay Sr., who was on the football, wrestling and swimming teams at Georgia Tech in the 1940s and then played in the NFL with the San Francisco 49ers in the 1950s. Clay's father, Clay Jr., was a four-year (1974-77) linebacker at USC who played on the Trojans' 1974 national championship team and earned All-American honors in 1977. He went on to play with the NFL's Cleveland Browns and Atlanta Falcons from 1978-96.

Clay's uncle, Bruce, was a three-year (1980-82) letterman offensive guard at USC who earned All-American honors in 1982 and then played with the NFL's Houston Oilers/Tennessee Titans from 1983-2001. Clay's older brother, Kyle, lettered at safety on USC's 2003 national championship team. Another brother, Casey, is a sophomore linebacker at Oregon. His cousin, Ashley Nick, is a senior on the USC women's soccer team that captured the 2007 NCAA championship.

Matthews prepped at Agoura High School. His dramatic rise as a pro prospect would be one of this draft's more compelling stories, even without his bloodlines. Lightly recruited as a high school junior, he walked on to USC rather than take a scholarship to a smaller program. "He was 160 pounds as a junior in high school," his father, Clay Jr., said. "His senior year, he just got taller and bigger. But you're recruited your junior year. I was thinking he wasn't going to be able to play football, and I was fine with that."

The freshman linebacker was relegated to duties on the scout team at Southern California in 2004. As a red-shirt freshman, he played mostly on special teams in 2005, seeing action in all but the Hawaii contest (missed that game with an elbow sprain). He managed to record eight tackles (4 solos) to earn his first varsity letter.

Now measuring in at 230 pounds, Matthews earned a scholarship during 2006 fall camp. He served as a reserve strong-side outside linebacker behind Dallas Sartz, but made his reputation when he was named Co-Special Teams Player of the Year. He was also a second-team Academic All-Pac 10 Conference pick. In 13 games, he delivered 15 tackles (9 solos) with a 7-yard sack.

Matthews was again the key backup at both outside linebacker positions and captured the team's Co-Special Teams Player of the Year Award for the second consecutive season in 2007. He played in all 13 games, blocking two kicks while posting 17 tackles (15 solos) with three stops for loss. He also caused two fumbles, both coming vs. Illinois in the Rose Bowl.

An intense weight training program during the 2008 offseason was tempered by surgery performed on his hand, but he still ended up receiving Co-Lifter of the Year honors. The now 240-pounder opened the 2008 campaign as a reserve, but took over right defensive end duties for the final 10 contests. The All-American honorable mention and All-Pac 10 Conference second-team choice was named the team's Co-Special Teams Player of the Year for the third consecutive season. He ranked fourth on the team with 56 tackles (28 solos), blocked another kick and had 4.5 sacks to go with nine stops for losses.

High School:

Prepped at Agoura (Cal.) High School as a linebacker, but was not recruited by the major colleges..."He was 160 pounds as a junior in high school," his father, Clay Jr., said. "His senior year, he just got taller and bigger. But you're recruited your junior year. I was thinking he wasn't going to be able to play football, and I was fine with that."

Analysis

Positives: Ascending player who may be just scratching the surface of his potential. Well-built athlete whose dedication in the weight-room is obvious in his physique. Reliable open-field tackler. Versatile defender who flashes as a natural pass rusher off the edge. Good speed upfield and has the balance and burst to redirect his rush. Good initial hand punch to pop the blocker and disengage. Good effort and speed in pursuit. Instinctive defender who played well in space as a traditional linebacker. Excellent special teams player. Twice named co-special teams player of the year (2005, 2006). Excellent bloodlines. Father, Clay, played 19 seasons at linebacker and made the Pro Bowl four times. Uncle, Bruce, made the Pro Bowl 14 times and was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 2007. Grandfather, also named Clay, played for the 49ers in the 1950s. Pac-10 Academic All-American with a 3.06 GPA in international relations.

Negatives: Has less than a full season as a starter and only 10 career starts -- all in 2008. Surrounded by so much talent at USC that holes in his game could have been disguised. Lacks the bulk to remain at defensive end. Prefers to run around blocks rather than take them on. While he improved as the year went on, remains a work in progress in disengaging from blocks. Suffered broken left thumb against Nebraska, then fractured a metacarpal later in season, then had to have surgery after the bowl game as it did not heal properly.

Compares To: MARCUS WASHINGTON, ex-Washington -- Matthews knows how to use his quickness to slip past and avoid blocks in order to get to the ball and clog the inside rush lanes. He has the balance and body control to run clean and take proper angles to the ball when working in space. He is a solid wrap-up tackler with enough power to drag ball carriers down. He is not big enough to prevent NFL linemen from engulfing him as a defensive end, but as a linebacker he could develop into a solid blitzer. He has the hand strength to get a decent push off the ball and works hard to play off blocks to get to the quarterback. When working off the edge, he can surprise a lethargic offensive lineman with his ability to explode past the opponent and has more than enough speed to close, making him a nice fit for strong-side linebacker.

Injury Report

2005: Did not play vs. Hawaii (9/03) due to a sprained elbow.

2008: Underwent hand surgery prior to the beginning of spring drills.
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Originally posted by Hauser:
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Originally posted by Goalline:
Have they picked yet?


They passed in round 1 and will most likely pick twice in a row in round 2


Or 8 times in the 7th round.

BK, that thing is so far into the net it is almost in the stands. Yeah, crap like that always happens to Tottenham against United.
Knew TT was going to use the Favre pick in some sort of trade scenario - he didn't want the press to say "So xxxxx #3 round pick, you were basically traded for Brett Favre. How do you feel about that?".

Smart to leave all that drama from last year off the press' minds.
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Originally posted by Chronic Hobbit:
You guys are just looking for something to bitch about, aren't you.


pretty much, TT cant win either way with some of these clowns. Some of the same guys in this thread bitch on both side of the fence with what ever TT does. One day is that he is not risky enough the next day he gives up too much because he took a risk.

Unreal
It's a bold move, but I like it. I think TT gave up a bit much, but I like that he went after a player he wanted.

By the way .. National Football Post had Clay Matthews projected to go #15 today to Houston.
Hey, I've liked this draft more than any other that Thompson has had with the Pack. I'm just upset that its over for today.

Defense definitely got better today....on paper.

Offense line needs to be addressed somehow.

Maybe FA after the draft....OK, now I'm dreaming.
All I'm saying is that TT took a risk, the very thing that Bad News Bob McGinn has been berating him for many years. He always made the safe pick, the calculated gamble, that he didn't have enough Ron Wolf in him.

Suck it haters. TT is taking a risk and I think it's going to turn up gold. Matthews has a chance to be special.
While they did give up a bit more than I expected, I think Matthews will be the best of the 3 USC LB's in this draft. His game is more NFL-like than Cushing or Maleuga (I spelled that wrong, but my point is made). Good move.
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Originally posted by Chronic Hobbit:

Suck it haters. TT is taking a risk and I think it's going to turn up gold. Matthews has a chance to be special.


And so does Raji. The defense is definitely better today, but is it enough?
I can't say today whether he is going to be special or not, but I don't mind the move. They needed to address the defense, and they added two pretty decent prospects today.

What I find funny is that some of the people that ripped the guy for trading back and getting too many late round picks are all of a sudden beside themselves because maybe we gave away one too many 3rd round picks. Confused

I hope like heck Matthews works out just so those haters can chew on the big fattie. I am so sick and tired of the constant b!tching and moaning that goes on around here with TT and the Packers. Have a drink and chill already.
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Originally posted by Tschmack:


I hope like heck Matthews works out just so those haters can chew on the big fattie. I am so sick and tired of the constant b!tching and moaning that goes on around here with TT and the Packers. Have a drink and chill already.


Actually, if Matthews works out wouldn't that just few the fire of the haters who have been saying TT should have been doing this all along? Hmmmmmmm. Seems like your in a conundrum.
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Originally posted by Koopla Krash:
Knew TT was going to use the Favre pick in some sort of trade scenario - he didn't want the press to say "So xxxxx #3 round pick, you were basically traded for Brett Favre. How do you feel about that?".

Smart to leave all that drama from last year off the press' minds.
Yea, that's why TT made the deal. Roll Eyes Nonsense.
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Originally posted by Chronic Hobbit:
All I'm saying is that TT took a risk, the very thing that Bad News Bob McGinn has been berating him for many years. He always made the safe pick, the calculated gamble, that he didn't have enough Ron Wolf in him.

Suck it haters. TT is taking a risk and I think it's going to turn up gold. Matthews has a chance to be special.


Huh. I guess if someone doesn't like the move, they are suddenly TT haters. Roll Eyes

I hope Matthews makes 10 Pro Bowls and makes the HOF. I just think TT gave up too much.
I thought the trade was ridiculous. To much to give up to move up 15 spots into the late round one area. Now they are done until the fourth round, and most say the talent level really starts falling in round five.

I have no problem with Clay Matthews however. He does bring a bit of concerns as he is a 100% undisputed one-year wonder...and Thompson has drafted quite a few of those in the last two years. Nonetheless I had him at the #25 player in the draft and he figured to go right around this area.

I like the player, but I don't like what Thompson gave up to get him. I think giving up #41, #73 and maybe the fifth rounder would have been more appropriate.
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Originally posted by justanotherpackerfan:
Hey, I've liked this draft more than any other that Thompson has had with the Pack. I'm just upset that its over for today.

Defense definitely got better today....on paper.

Offense line needs to be addressed somehow.

Maybe FA after the draft....OK, now I'm dreaming.


Can't do it all with one draft.
japf

I seriously think some people have an obsession with TT. It doesn't matter what he does. Really. He's up the creek without a paddle either way.

He's not perfect by any stretch but in the 37 years I have been on this Earth I have yet to see this amount of second guessing and armchair GMing with any other person affiliated with the Packers.
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Originally posted by FinnLander:
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Originally posted by Koopla Krash:
Knew TT was going to use the Favre pick in some sort of trade scenario - he didn't want the press to say "So xxxxx #3 round pick, you were basically traded for Brett Favre. How do you feel about that?".

Smart to leave all that drama from last year off the press' minds.
Yea, that's why TT made the deal. Roll Eyes Nonsense.


Maybe not this deal, but the writing was on the wall with that pick; I predicted it months ago.
Oh I understand what you are saying T, I've been a blatant TT second quesser on many occasions. I like the draft today very much. I haven't liked them in the past (A Rod, Harrell, trading out of the 1st last year)....but I don't think its been a TT thing as much as a different philosophy.....and some sort of delusions of grandeire that make me think I know enough to complain about what a NFL GM does.
I hear ya Joe, but that probably wouldn't have got the deal done. TT must feel strongly about the guy, and perhaps he has him a lot higher on his board than #26. I have no problem with the trade.
I guess the way I see it is that we don't need another 3rd rounder- a guy that "might" make the team. As of today I would think Matthews is an immediate starter at one of the LB spots.

I really like how today has turned out
There's no way to spin this to make it a good trade. The trade value chart is lopsided in favor of the Patriots. Love the player, definitely like him, don't like the trade at all. Maybe if we swapped thirds and went from 83 to 89 but not just give them up. Not a Thompson hater, I very much like him...I haven't been keen on Raji but I've maintained that Thompson has the info and I don't, so I support the pick. This trade is bad though, unless he has something else up his sleeve in terms of aquiring picks.
It's a bold move. One I didn't think Ted would do. But hey, we get 2 1st round picks and 2 players who can come here and make an instant impact to an area the Packers vastly needed help in...the 3-4.

TT admitted it is alot to give up, but said when you really want a guy, you go after him and get him. That's what did.
Boris LIVE from Radio City Music Hall with Coach!

Packer fans here are happy about the 2 1st rounders.

I love the players and I don't think TT had to give up too much.

While it is more than the Pick Value Chart tells us, It's quite obvious TT thought very highly of Matthews.

Our defense just got a TON better.
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Originally posted by Koopla Krash:
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Originally posted by FinnLander:
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Originally posted by Koopla Krash:
Knew TT was going to use the Favre pick in some sort of trade scenario - he didn't want the press to say "So xxxxx #3 round pick, you were basically traded for Brett Favre. How do you feel about that?".

Smart to leave all that drama from last year off the press' minds.
Yea, that's why TT made the deal. Roll Eyes Nonsense.


Maybe not this deal, but the writing was on the wall with that pick; I predicted it months ago.


Well, you thought they'd trade DOWN with that pick, turning it into multiple players and making it hard for anyone to say, "They traded Favre for that pick." (I disagreed with you.)

So how does this support your prediction? It can pretty easily be said (if anyone wants to) that the player Green Bay got from the Favre deal was Matthews. If Thompson actually had that goal in mind (which I still strongly disagree with), getting one player out of the Favre pick doesn't work.
While I thought we'd go O-Line by those 3rd round picks, our defense just found 2 starters and potential Pro Bowlers. That's good enough for me.
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Originally posted by Swany:
What does the value indicator say about the value of the trade with the 5th Rd. we get?


26 and 162 picks = 726.6
41, 73, and 83 pics = 890

So no, it's not close, but I don't buy these stupid value systems anyway simply because every team has players rated at different spots.
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Originally posted by Grave Digger:
This trade is bad though, unless he has something else up his sleeve in terms of aquiring picks.


So we can be the youngest team in the league for the 3rd year in a row???

Enought with acquiring more picks. TT felt he got value, and we all now TT is the shrewdest of the shrewd.
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Originally posted by YATittle:
Clear something up for me. I thought we traded both third rounders for a 1st and a 5th. Am I wrong on that?


Yes, the Packers also had to give up their 2nd rounder.
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Originally posted by YATittle:
Clear something up for me. I thought we traded both third rounders for a 1st and a 5th. Am I wrong on that?


Yes! You forgot the 2nd rounder.

I think TT is getting soft.
Belichick admitted on NFL Network he doesn't like this draft at all.

Some of you need to give me a break. TT can't win. 1st he doesn't "gamble" enough and now when he does, you guys are critical of that.

Ignore the PVC. The players that would've been left in round 2 & 3 are nowhere near the quality that is Clay Matthews.

(2) 1st rounders BITCHES! Our defense is to be reckoned with now.
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Originally posted by Boris:
Belichick admitted on NFL Network he doesn't like this draft at all.

Some of you need to give me a break. TT can't win. 1st he doesn't "gamble" enough and now when he does, you guys are critical of that.

Ignore the PVC. The players that would've been left in round 2 & 3 are nowhere near the quality that is Clay Matthews.

(2) 1st rounders BITCHES! Our defense is to be reckoned with now.


I don't appreciate being called a bitch. I prefer _unt, myself.
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Originally posted by Boris:
Belichick admitted on NFL Network he doesn't like this draft at all.

Some of you need to give me a break. TT can't win. 1st he doesn't "gamble" enough and now when he does, you guys are critical of that.

Ignore the PVC. The players that would've been left in round 2 & 3 are nowhere near the quality that is Clay Matthews.

(2) 1st rounders BITCHES! Our defense is to be reckoned with now.


Boris. Usually I kiss your ass because I'm an ass-kisser. This time I'm kissing your ass because you're right! Big Grin
I was shocked with the trade up. He must like Matthews alot. I'm happy to come away with 2 1st rd picks. I hope both turn into pro bowlers. The only reason I'm disappointed is because we don't have another pick till the fourth rd. It kinda takes the interest out of the nest 2 rds. I sure hope to see more highlights of Matthews hitting the QB.
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Originally posted by Max:
It can pretty easily be said (if anyone wants to) that the player Green Bay got from the Favre deal was Matthews. If Thompson actually had that goal in mind (which I still strongly disagree with), getting one player out of the Favre pick doesn't work.


Actually, since we used up 3 high picks for Matthews... we basically got only 1/3 of a player for Favre. Or... Since that extra 3rd round pick was the "overpayment" within the trade value chart... you could also say we got nothing for the Favre pick.
I love the move. Enough with the TT bashing. People bitch if he trades back and then bitch when he moves up. Giving up those picks can be tough to swallow but let's not forget the men in GB that study these guys forever. It's obvious TT and the boys saw a lot in Matthews.

Personally, I grew a bit tired of constantly trading back and acquiring more low level picks. Moving up to add a possible pro bowl type player is exactly what this team needs. GB needs to start adding blue chip type players and I think they added two today.

Trade aside, you have to love Matthews. His bloodlines are incredible and he he's a tireless worker. I think he was the best LB at USC and will be a very good 34 OLB. This guy worked himself from a walk-on at the nations best college football program to a stand out starter and then a first round pick. Some people think he's just scratching the surface of his potential, which is pretty remarkable for the Packers. This guy is the perfect example of Packer People.

Raji and Matthews? I don't care what happens from here on out, this draft is a smashing success for my money.
I think this pick could go either way. Hhe doesen't have much starting experience, really never put up much sack numbers, some whispers about roids, played alongside two other high drafted lb's, overachiever. Hard working and all that kinda thing but what did that really get us with Aj Hawk.

Or he becomes a instinctive playmaker like guys Patriots had such as Vrabel and Brusci that become key cogs in a system. Time will tell.
The "getting owned" is simply over ONE 3rd round pick. A second and a third to move up that much would have been acceptable. But the second 3rd is what bothers people. TT must think he can address the OT with the remaining five picks.
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I am a huge TT supporter and I watched a lot of USC last year and I think Belicheck just owned TT.


Matthews was probably the best of that LB group. So he didn't play as much as the other guys - big deal. He worked his way into the lineup and was a difference maker.
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Originally posted by Pakrz:
I love the move. Enough with the TT bashing. People bitch if he trades back and then bitch when he moves up.



I don't hear anybody complaining about TT trading up for Matthews. The complaints are in regard to the overpayment of trade value.
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Originally posted by who:
The "getting owned" is simply over ONE 3rd round pick. A second and a third to move up that much would have been acceptable. But the second 3rd is what bothers people. TT must think he can address the OT with the remaining five picks.


Or with guys already on the team.
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Originally posted by Goalline:
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Originally posted by who:
The "getting owned" is simply over ONE 3rd round pick. A second and a third to move up that much would have been acceptable. But the second 3rd is what bothers people. TT must think he can address the OT with the remaining five picks.


Or with guys already on the team.


See my previous post. Smiler
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Originally posted by who:
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Originally posted by Goalline:
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Originally posted by who:
The "getting owned" is simply over ONE 3rd round pick. A second and a third to move up that much would have been acceptable. But the second 3rd is what bothers people. TT must think he can address the OT with the remaining five picks.


Or with guys already on the team.


See my previous post. Smiler


Can't make me.
Guys it's cool. A source of mine tells me that we're going to trade Ryan Grant for a 2nd rounder. So TT probably factored that in when trading up for Clay.

On a serious note, I agree that we came up on the short side for this trade. That said, I'm really really happy that we're coming out of this draft with both Raji and Matthews.
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Originally posted by Tschmack:
They gave up an extra 3rd round pick. Big freaking deal. If it works out TT will look pretty smart.


Remember another time the Packers dealt with the Pats, it resulted in Greg Jennings being drafted.
Matthews may turn out to be a great player and I hope he does. But, I still think it was a lot to give up. Screw the part about what the Jets gave us. I don't think that pick or player for the TOG pick even entered into TT's plan. At least I would hope it would not. It's a draft pick in the third round. And, now we are back to the 4th round. But, are there decent O-linemen in the 4th, 5th or after? Probably. This draft was light on corners and safeties.

Quite a surprise, but I thing TT likes it that way. He better hit on this one or....
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Originally posted by the-icon:
Or he could look like a dolt for overpaying for an overachiever that he sees in his image.


Exactly! Thompson is overpaying so he can draft someone that reminds him of his own scrappy underdog persona! It has nothing to do with acquiring a good player for an extra 3rd round pick!

You have cracked the case, fine sir.

Perhaps you can solve the Jimmy Hoffa thing next?
Max - I just didn't think pick #89 would be made by the Packers. That's all.

For the rest that think I'm bashing TT - who is going to play RT? Even if Matthews is all that and a bag of chips, there is currently still a mondo-sized, gaping hole at RT. There were certainly plenty of possible RTs on the board that are probably much better options that the Packers currently have on the roster.

IF the Packers get at least average play at RT this season, this COULD turn into a mega-awesome trade.
Anybody have that pickoff by Matthews in the senior-type bowl ... I remember tehm showing the clip on the NFL Network.

Towards the sideline, it was one of the most athletic plays I've seen from a LB. I had to do double-take because it was awesome, its the only reason i remember because I had not seen Matthews before that.

If that is the sign of things to come, it is comforting.

Update: It was Matthews Pro day.
Mayock had him as the best of the USC LB's ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI7dA3UttUM
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there is currently still a mondo-sized, gaping hole at RT.


Draft isn't over yet & Tauscher isn't retired. I know Tauscher probably won't start in Sept. but we had a gaping hole at OLB too. Now we don't. Now we got a 3 down player and according to Dom Capers he believes Raji can be a 3-down player too

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