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From FoxSports:  15 steals in the 2017 NFL Draft

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Would have rather packaged a later pick to get ahead of Dallas for Awuzie, who IMO is more versatile and better in coverage. Jones feels like he's closer to Ha Ha than anyone else on recent Packers teams. 

FinnLander posted:

From FoxSports:  15 steals in the 2017 NFL Draft

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Montravius Adams made this list also.  

All three of our first picks are more "potential", rather than "production" guys. All of them have great scores for their position in combine events, but none of the three were voted to 1st or 2nd team all-conference by the coaches in their conferences. TT is putting a lot of trust in our coaches that they can get that potential to produce on the field. 

Laquon Treadwell was All American and First Team All SEC. Which is surprising because it looks like he doesn't know how to play football. 

Robert Nkemdiche was first and second team all American and All SEC Freshman of the year. Which is surprising because it looks like doesn't know how to play football. 

Justin Gilbert was first and second team all American. First team all big 12 by coaches and AP. First team Walter Camp all American. And college football writers defensive back of the year. Which is surprising because he didn't know how to play football. 

YooperPackfan posted:

Exactly!!! People get over zealous over draft picks based off potential. Case in point? Go read the comments in the Damarious Randall thread when he was drafted

Randall had a very good rookie season. 14 passes defended (top 10 total) and three picks. Last year was a huge disappointment. He needs to be 100% healthy this year so we see what he can actually do. But it's not like he hasn't shown he can play in the NFL. 

Exactly Chili. I think people overreact in general. They get overly excited about talented rookies and freak out about players struggling with injury. As much as we all love to prognosticate, 2 seasons isn't enough to predict Randall's career even if he had been healthy at all in year 2. Things change over time, players can develop physically, they can become more professional, etc. There's a reason rookie contracts generally go 4 years, it takes that long to see what you have in a player. 

Randall had a groin injury last season. Just how can anyone expect him to run fast and cover deep threats when he had to play with that? Hopefully, he is fully recovered and can do a repeat of his first season with us. Don't sell him short.

It's amazing to me to hear some of the negative comments on 1st & 2ND round picks from only 2 years ago. 

So we drafted a few DB's. If you think R & R will curl up in the fetal position & cry themselves to sleep, you don't know competitive football players very well.

Generally takes 3-4 seasons for DB's to "get it". Remember Ozzie Newsome wanted Rollins. Pardon me while I side with Ozzie & TT.

Also our front 7 isn't exactly helping the young DB's by not getting to the QB. A little more harassment from our front 7 would go a long way to helping out our defense.

I'm hoping Josh Jones can add some toughness & create turnovers.

GrainBelt66 posted:

I think that burst and speed are actually part of being very athletic.

They can be but not on their own.  It's a big reason track star sprinters rarely make it on the football field.  Fast as lightning, stiff as a board.  Think of all the great BB big men who lumbered up and down the court.  Hyde just didn't have elite foot speed.

Nick Collins was considered by certain people who may or may not have started this thread to be a sign that, combined drafting him and Rodgers, Ted Thompson was out of his mind in his 1st draft and that Mike Sherman deserved another chance and BJ Sander would live up to his draft selection. 

Brainwashed Boris posted:

It's amazing to me to hear some of the negative comments on 1st & 2ND round picks from only 2 years ago. 

It's what this fan base does...after year 2, many around here were ready to run Duh-vante out on a rail, and anoint Janis! as the 2nd coming of Bill Schroeder.

Every player can't be Clay Matthews or BJ Raji and make an impact out of the gate. As good as those guys were rookie year, they even made plenty of mistakes.

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