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@PackerHawk posted:

 Enter AJ Dillon... 

Dillon should help on short yardage and more
Here's Vic talking about what AJ Dillon brings to the PASSING game

Matt from Minneapolis, MN
Dillon and Jones: "Thunder and Lightning." I know we all love a catchy nickname but, in reality, what does having a "Thunder and Lightning" backfield do to a defense? What are the benefits other than it sounds neat?
It allows you to dictate to the defense. When you go big, they have to go big, too. When you go small and quick, they have to do the same. Having a running back with the size and power Dillon possesses will keep a linebacker on the field. The defense doesn't dare get light in the pants up front with Dillon in the game, or the Packers will pound. We saw that with Eddie Lacy. This is why I say you're not really running the ball if you're not running it with power. The defenders a defense uses to stop a speed back are the same defenders it uses to defend against the pass.
The big back opens up the passing game. Scheme personnel, not schemes.

From a good standpoint, when Dillon was healthy pre-Covid, when he found a lane to run in, he hit it with power and very good acceleration for a guy that big.

From a "needs improvement" standpoint, he didn't show good vision for finding a running lane or much of any lateral quickness.  On most of his carries, he showed the "needs improvement" characteristics but maybe showed his positive characteristics in only 3 or 4 carries in his small amount of duty.

At some point, he'll get more work and hopefully we'll see more positive runs from him, but so far was really only impressive on a handful of carries.

I don't automatically assume he'll be a great back near the goal line despite his power as he does run a little bit upright which can take some of the raw power away if he doesn't get up a head of steam.  That said... he'll get his chances eventually and hopefully he'll improve from a mediocre start to his career so far. 

@BrainDed posted:

He has the potential to be the next Henry.   We won’t know a lot about him until Jones or Williams moves on.    

Jones is special, so while I despise paying RB’s, I now think you have to give him a 2nd contract.  His vision is off the charts good.  

It obviously depends on the contract. In the 10 million a year range, I think you do it. However, he's probably going to want Kamara money which is 15 million.

In his favor is that he's only had 715 touches in his 4 years in the NFL (Thanks MM!). In contrast, one recent example of a bad decision on an extension (Todd Gurley) had 1026 in his first 4 years. The counterpoint is that he's only 4 months younger than Todd Gurley.

I get what you are saying about his vision, but very few extensions to RBs hold up well over time. More importantly, if you were going to extend him, using a second round pick on Dillon is even more questionable.

@fightphoe93 posted:

From a good standpoint, when Dillon was healthy pre-Covid, when he found a lane to run in, he hit it with power and very good acceleration for a guy that big.

From a "needs improvement" standpoint, he didn't show good vision for finding a running lane or much of any lateral quickness.  On most of his carries, he showed the "needs improvement" characteristics but maybe showed his positive characteristics in only 3 or 4 carries in his small amount of duty.

At some point, he'll get more work and hopefully we'll see more positive runs from him, but so far was really only impressive on a handful of carries.

I don't automatically assume he'll be a great back near the goal line despite his power as he does run a little bit upright which can take some of the raw power away if he doesn't get up a head of steam.  That said... he'll get his chances eventually and hopefully he'll improve from a mediocre start to his career so far.

He'll also have to show he can catch the ball out of the backfield. He only caught 21 passes in his college career and one as a Packer. If he doesn't have that versatility, you might be much better off with Jamaal Williams (let alone Aaron Jones). For comparison, one of the knocks on Jonathan Taylor coming out was that teams were worried about him as a receiving threat and he caught twice as many passes in college and had 26 for 5 TDs during his last year as a Badger.

It obviously depends on the contract. In the 10 million a year range, I think you do it. However, he's probably going to want Kamara money which is 15 million.

In his favor is that he's only had 715 touches in his 4 years in the NFL (Thanks MM!). In contrast, one recent example of a bad decision on an extension (Todd Gurley) had 1026 in his first 4 years. The counterpoint is that he's only 4 months younger than Todd Gurley.

I get what you are saying about his vision, but very few extensions to RBs hold up well over time. More importantly, if you were going to extend him, using a second round pick on Dillon is even more questionable.

Damn it, your right.  I just like rooting for this kid.  

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