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04/24/2013 - 2013 NFL DRAFT RANG'S GANG: OT: David Bakhtiari, Colorado, 6-4, 299, 5.02...With a 4-21 record since moving to the Pac-12, the Buffaloes didn't get much air-time which may factor in why Bakhtiari has slid under the radar a bit. Possessing long arms (34"), adequate athleticism and toughness, he ranks as one of the more underrated offensive linemen in the 2013 draft and a likely Day Two selection. - Rob Rang, NFLDraftScout.com



OVERVIEW
While the Buffs haven't been the consistent producer of NFL talent like some of their former Big 12 or current Pac-12 foes, one area in which they've routinely developed prospects is along the offensive line.
Bakhtiari (pronounced Bock-T-are-E) has established himself as a legitimate NFL-caliber talent, following in the footsteps of Nate Solder (New England Patriots) and Ryan Miller (Cleveland Browns), former Colorado standouts selected in the first and fifth rounds of the 2011 and 2012 drafts, respectively.

After redshirting in 2009, Bakhtiari was thrown into the fire at right tackle in 2010, starting 11 games (playing in all 12) and earning honorable mention all-conference honors from the AP. In 2010, he made the switch to left tackle and was recognized as a second team all-conference performer.

While Colorado struggled through yet another poor season in 2012, which ultimately led to the firing of head coach Jon Embree, Bakhtiari against was a bright spot with second-team All-Pac-12 honors.

"I've been contemplating this for a long time," Bakhtiari said in announcing he would leave school a year early for the NFL. "It didn't have anything to do with Jon Embree [former Colorado head coach] being fired. I had always intended to see where the NFL was going to position me after I submitted myself for the review.

"The evaluation came back and had me in the second- to third-round range for a pick, but I also received some good feedback from Steve Marshall [Colorado offensive line coach] and Coach Embree, who spoke with several of their contacts around the league, and they thought I might even go a little bit higher, and that helped, too."

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS: Physically looks the part of an NFL offensive lineman. Has long arms and good overall weight distribution. Has a thick lower half and good core flexibility, well suited to anchoring against bull rushers. Good initial quickness. Consistently is the first Colorado offensive lineman off the snap and shows the ability to jump off the ball, turn and seal off defenders in the running game. Gains good depth on his drop and eats up ground with a deep kick-step. Long arms and strong hands allow him to latch on to defenders as they attempt to cross his face when he is in pass protection. Good understanding of angles to cut off defenders who appear to have him beat. Good upper body strength and good hand placement to latch on and control his opponent. Shows some nastiness to his game, looking to knock defenders to the ground when he can. May not possess elite straight-line speed but shows enough burst to get to the second level and is highly competitive once he gets there, seeking out someone to hit. Good bloodlines. Eric Bakhtiari, David's only brother, was a standout defensive lineman at San Diego State and has been on an off the San Francisco 49ers' roster.

WEAKNESSES: May lack the elite combination of height and foot speed to handle edge rushers in the NFL, though he appears well suited to simply sliding inside to left guard. Doesn't have top body control for blocking on the move and will struggle adjusting to moving targets. Too often attacks the outside shoulder of linebackers when blocking on the move, allowing them to "swim" over him and remain in the action. Would like to see him finish his blocks more completely. Often protected with a tight end as Colorado frequently used a dual tight end set...

Compares to: John Greco, OL, Cleveland Browns -- Like Bakhtiari, Greco was a standout left tackle in college (Toledo) but one whose lack of ideal size and foot speed pushed him inside in the NFL. While not a standout, he's emerged as a solid starter and one whose physicality and determination won't be questioned once given an opportunity.

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In keeping with Rusty's "Moby Dick" theme... if my chest had been a mortar, I would burst my hot heart's shell upon the NFL Network for running these constant damned commercials instead of telling us what's going on with these trades.
GREEN BAY–Packers General Manager Ted Thompson executed his second trade of the day with the 49ers when he dealt the Packers’ third-round pick, the 88th overall selection, for the 49ers’ third-round pick, the 93rd overall choice, and the 49ers’ seventh-round pick (216). The 49ers then used the third-round pick they acquired to select Auburn DE Corey Lemonier.
Before we make this next pick, have any of you guys seen anybody passed over you would've taken?

Discuss. Big Grin

Edited to add TT must need to acquire some minimum salaries to offset the recent extensions.
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Originally posted by Timmy!:
Before we make this next pick, have any of you guys seen anybody passed over you would've taken?



Well, now that you mention it, I guess I'd rather they'd taken Manti Teo. Seeing as how he's the only human being on the planet these imbeciles want to talk about, I'd just as soon he was a Packer.

Wait a minute - now we've traded with the Phins?
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Originally posted by mr21mr21:
Ted wants the entire 7th round


He's a genius. He's going to take this year's entire 7th round, and trade it for next year's entire 6th round! Dynasty, baby, dynasty!
McGinn's write-up (7th ranked OT):

7. DAVID BAKHTIARI, Colorado (6-4 ½, 301, 5.08, 2-3) - Fourth-year junior out of Burlingame, Calif. "He's long (34-inch arms) and he's tall and he doesn't get much movement," one scout said. "He is flexible. Doesn't know how to use his hands." Started at RT in 2010 and at LT in 2011-'12. "He could be real good at guard," another scout said. "He's got pretty good feet. He's tough. He's competitive. He jumps at things every once in a while but he has the movement to be pretty good." Smart and strong. "You see the good feet and balance," a third scout said. "He'll be a late second if you're a team looking for a finesse offensive lineman. If he can get up to 310, 315, you might like him at guard."
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"He's long (34-inch arms) and he's tall and he doesn't get much movement," one scout said.


LOL and NFL Network says he's shorter than teams like and his arms aren't very long.

Good thing the NFL Draft is a science.
More notes from JSO: "Some notes on Bakhtiari: Started 33 of 34 games (22 at left tackle, 11 at right tackle). ...Had 255 knockdowns as a starter (7.73 per game). ...Had 27 TD-resulting blocks."

Like this pick.
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Originally posted by cuqui:
More notes from JSO: "Some notes on Bakhtiari: Started 33 of 34 games (22 at left tackle, 11 at right tackle). ...Had 255 knockdowns as a starter (7.73 per game). ...Had 27 TD-resulting blocks."

Like this pick.


Ditto
Big Grin

I think there is a good chance they'll groom Tretter for the job. He won't be the starter for very long.

And to get back on topic, Bakhtiari could be your best avatar since you retired Spitz.
Lots of different players since then. QB might want to make quicker decisions to help out.

I will say he seems to do a pretty good job of protecting himself when he takes sacks and doesn't get wiped out often.
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Anyone who can play LT at a decent level in college gets overdrafted. Some places had DB listed as a second rounderer, but he was hard to evaluate because his team was so bad. Plus he is coming out a year early. Plus he likely has had poor coaching (remember, the entire team sucked). Solid pick for the seond day, will compete.

If protecting ARod's blind side is a priority, then Bulaga should be at LT - let Barclay, Newhouse and DB compete for RT and backup slots. We carry four tackles and these are likely to be them, barring injuries. Only bad thing is that 3 of 4 seem like LTs, which isn't all that bad a problem to have. Barclay is the only one who has no future at LT.

One of the fatal flaws in last year's team was the lack of depth on the OL. When Saturday had problems, it ended up eating up our only experienced backup. We were one injury away from starting UDFAs like Barclay. Meant that Sitton and Lang had little choice but to play though injuries. DB adds that depth and with Bulaga, Barclay, Newhouse and DB, we may have to sit a pretty decent player, as we usually dress only three tackles.

So, I think he was underscouted and TT may have pulled off another master pick here.
As a rookie, I'm not sure what to expect from someone like this who is so young and came from a horrible team. But it sounds like there is a good upside to this guy as he is young and will fill out a bit as he ages plus he's going to get Pro coaching (insert Campen joke here).

He might be a guy like Mike Flanagan or Marco Rivera that takes some time to develop, but once he does, you're glad he's on your team.
I agree. Seems to have a chip on his shoulder after dropping a bit in the draft too, so that's always nice.

Like Tretter, it seems like it'll take a year before he can truly take form. Still, I'd feel more comfortable with him filling in at RT or LT than Barclay or Lang.
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"I feel I can play left tackle," Bakhtiari said. "I've shown it in college, but wherever the Packers want me to play is what I'm going to play.

"They're going to give me a playbook; they're going to let me know the position, and I'm going to study it and try and become the best player I can."
kids these days! this should be fun Big Grin

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Campen said Bakhtiari and Tretter were versatile enough to play multiple positions.

"(Bakhtiari) certainly is athletic enough to do so. As you know, he played left tackle. . . . But I think he's very versatile. We'll be excited to get him in here and see where we're going to place him.

"(Tretter) is very much like David in the fact that we feel like he can play multiple positions."
I just wish I trusted Campen to guide a player through a position change. The only player I can think of that he has converted and has had success is Josh Sitton and maybe TJ Lang, but Lang had a pretty rough start. Colledge was okay also, but Spitz was a disaster, Barbre was a disaster, Moll was a disaster, Newhouse at Guard was a disaster. When they've let guys play their natural positions like moving Newhouse back to LT, they've gotten much better results. I do cut Campen some slack because they seem to keep wanting to draft exclusively Left Tackles and force them into other positions, which isn't Campen's fault. I'm not predicting these guys will fail, but I'm not getting my hopes up. Hopefully some day they will bring in true Guard or Center like Chance Warmack.
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Originally posted by Boris:
Like satori said...we don't draft high enough to select a Warmack. We constantly select in the high twenties or later.


I didn't mean a top 10 Guard necessarily, although that would be nice. I think it would help Campen out if they drafted guys, like Travis Frederick, who had played an interior position their entire college career. I would trust him to take an already good college OG or C and turn him into a good NFL OG or C.
I don't think he's horrible. Certainly he has had some successes like Sitton and Lang and seemed to get a lot out of Don Barclay. He's had two pupils, Scott Wells and Daryn Colledge, who have scored big contracts with other teams as well. I think Campen is the kind of coach who can get already talented players to play at a high level. Guys like Sitton and Bulaga and Lang already had the right attitude/mindset and the physical talent to match, Campen just got them adjusted to the NFL and did enough to allow them to succeed. I don't think he's the kind of coach, like Alex Gibbs, who can take a project and turn him into a star. To me all of the "project" players GB has drafted have flamed out...Allen Barbre comes to mind immediately.
Certainly wasn't directed at you personally... Just saw your post as the latest in a long line of blaming Campen. Rarely do you see anybody pointing a finger at TT for an inability to draft offensive lineman whereas Campen always seems to be the focal point if a player doesn't work out. Of course, TT certainly deserves the benefit of the doubt so I get that.

Slocum used to get a lot of heat too. Not so much any longer.
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Originally posted by Grave Digger:
To me all of the "project" players GB has drafted have flamed out...Allen Barbre comes to mind immediately.


and don't forget my hero Breno Giacomini too...Campen gets a lot of crap around here and he's earned some of it- but not all. Some of it was the material he had to work with, mostly late round guys who were passed over for some reason
Campen may be a great teacher of the position but not a great communicator of the scheme. Regardless, I agree with Pakrz, at some point we either trust Thompson and McCarthy with the choice of Campen or we blame them. Can't have it both ways.
I'm not sure where the blame lies. Ultimately it's Thompson's fault for poor drafting of OL. Thompson seems to communicate well with his coaches and scouts though, relying on them to say yea or nay on a particular player. In the Nate Palmer thread, there's an article where Palmer said he didn't think he would be drafted, but Kevin Greene seemed taken with him, McCarthy and Capers took Greene's assessment, passed on the info, and they picked him. My guess is that is the norm with this team and many teams.

I'm guessing McCarthy and/or Campen say they want a player with a certain skill set for a certain position. The scouts find those players and the Thompson and the coaches continue the research, as Kevin Greene did with Palmer. They say yea or nay and Thompson drafts accordingly. I doubt Campen gets stuck with players he didn't want or hadn't been exposed to.
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In the Nate Palmer thread, there's an article where Palmer said he didn't think he would be drafted, but Kevin Greene seemed taken with him, McCarthy and Capers took Greene's assessment, passed on the info, and they picked him. My guess is that is the norm with this team and many teams.


I'm sure Greene had a part in Palmer being drafted, but the kid would have never been invited to GB unless TT put his stamp of approval on it in the first place. I can see where TT listened to one of their scouts, did his own research and invited the kid in for a visit to meet with the coaching staff, obviously including Greene.
Packer Update had a link to this Colorado Buffalo Football Blog
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David Bakhtiari and the Green Bay Packers
By DavidAGerhardt on Apr 30 2013


Strengths:
David is a high-character guy that is going to work hard to continue to get better, stronger and quicker. He definitely still has a way to go, but he knows that. He has quick feet, can kick-slide well and can get to guys at the 2nd level quickly. He has good flexibility which should help his versatility and a quick punch.


Where he needs to improve:
He needs to work on strengthening his base to be able to hold up to the size he'll be facing consistently in the NFL, especially if he's going to be looked at as a guard. He can also continue to get stronger so he can have a more violent punch. His recognition of certain twists and stunts needs work as well. Basically, he needs to adjust to the NFL and get into an NFL strength program.
continue
I saw the Buffs last yr, no one on O stuck out, no one. They were terrible.


2012 COLORADO BUFFALOES SCHEDULE
DATE OPPONENT RESULT/TIME RECORD/TICKETS

Sat, Sept 1
vs
Colorado St*
L22-17
0-1 (0-0)

Sat, Sept 8
vs
Sacramento St
L30-28
0-2 (0-0)

Sat, Sept 15
@
Fresno St
L69-14
0-3 (0-0)

Sat, Sept 22
@
Washington St
W35-34
1-3 (1-0)

Sat, Sept 29
vs
UCLA
L42-14
1-4 (1-1)

Thu, Oct 11
vs
Arizona St
L51-17
1-5 (1-2)

Sat, Oct 20
@
#10 USC
L50-6
1-6 (1-3)

Sat, Oct 27
@
#4 Oregon
L70-14
1-7 (1-4)

Sat, Nov 3
vs
#14 Stanford
L48-0
1-8 (1-5)

Sat, Nov 10
@
Arizona
L56-31
1-9 (1-6)

Sat, Nov 17
vs
#25 Washington
L38-3
1-10 (1-7)

Fri, Nov 23
vs
Utah
L42-35
1-11 (1-8)

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