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@D J posted:

Everyone knows the name. When I whistled he came running.

For fuck sakes.  Your gullible self was sniffing my ass as soon as I started posting again. 

This world is too fucked up to listen to your "I know what you are but what am I" dumbfuckery.  Get back to me when you've got a new bit GM of the Pusscake Factory.

I'm starting to get some Lynn Dickey smurf vibes.

That video shows his lack of burst. It's a Ricky Elmore situation.  Some guys just don't have the quicks to be good pass rushers in the pros. They can get by in college but the pros is a whole other level.

https://www.golongtd.com/p/wha...bout-the-packers?s=r

“He had kind of a rough spring from a speed standpoint. He’s got really good length and he’s got some natural rush. He could play either end (in a 4-3). He’s got exceptional length and does a really good job using his hands as a rusher because of his length. Like him. I just don’t think he’s got enough speed and juice

“He ran 4.9. No.”

“Didn’t see much. No juice, no power. Just a backup kind of talent. He’s straight line. In one on one’s he can just go run at a guy, but in the whole big picture he doesn’t (produce).”

Watch even this video. Around 1:10 and 1:40 there are plays he breaks loose but there's not much bend and no real burst. That's gonna be a tough road in the pros.

(379) Kingsley Enagbare || South Carolina EDGE || 2021 Highlights - YouTube

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Pro Football Focus dropped an article on Sunday morning where it graded each draft pick from Day 3 of the 2022 NFL Draft. PFF graded the Packers pick of Enagbare as an ‘elite’ pick. Here is what PFF had to say about Enagbare going to Green Bay.

“Love this pick for the Packers. Enagbare was one of the highest-graded pass-rushers in the country over the past two seasons, recording an 89.2 pass-rushing grade in 2020 and a 92.5 mark in 2021. ... Enagbare has the violent hands to be productive in Green Bay.”

https://247sports.com/college/...NFL-Draft-187031972/

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“He can bend, and he’s powerful. Thick lower body. They did a good job of singling him up,” Moore said. “But a power guy that can straight-arm guys. Power is his game.

“J.J. is an athletic kid. His 40 time is not indicative of the kind of athlete that he is. On our depth chart, he’s going to be expected to play (special teams). I’m sure he’ll help.

“We’re lucky to get him where we got him. He has good burst, good power. Kingsley played good competition at South Carolina. He’s a good player for us as an edge.”

https://www.greenvilleonline.c...football/9556927002/

@Herschel posted:

That video shows his lack of burst. It's a Ricky Elmore situation.  Some guys just don't have the quicks to be good pass rushers in the pros. They can get by in college but the pros is a whole other level.

https://www.golongtd.com/p/wha...bout-the-packers?s=r

“He had kind of a rough spring from a speed standpoint. He’s got really good length and he’s got some natural rush. He could play either end (in a 4-3). He’s got exceptional length and does a really good job using his hands as a rusher because of his length. Like him. I just don’t think he’s got enough speed and juice

“He ran 4.9. No.”

“Didn’t see much. No juice, no power. Just a backup kind of talent. He’s straight line. In one on one’s he can just go run at a guy, but in the whole big picture he doesn’t (produce).”

Watch even this video. Around 1:10 and 1:40 there are plays he breaks loose but there's not much bend and no real burst. That's gonna be a tough road in the pros.

(379) Kingsley Enagbare || South Carolina EDGE || 2021 Highlights - YouTube

Love ya to death homie. Put work in. Sometimes just watch the games. He sticks imho.

@Brak posted:

Love ya to death homie. Put work in. Sometimes just watch the games. He sticks imho.

Oh, he sticks easily and likely gets a decent amount of snaps, he's just not likely going to be a big pass rusher at the pro level. He does a nice job of shedding blockers, setting the edge and making tackles. He'll probably be a good run defender who gets an occasional sack and does well on special teams. That has value.

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Link

-Holding penalties are a good way to judge blocking difficulty. Enagbare drew six of them, behind only Florida State’s Jermaine Johnson’s nine.

-According to Sports Info Solutions, out of 32 edge defenders in its draft guide, he ranked fourth with a pressure rate of 17 percent.

-On runs at his gap, he forced it to bounce to another gap 10 percent of the time, tied for 22nd.

-He missed only three tackles, a solid rate of 7 percent.

-According to Pro Football Focus, 161 edge defenders had at least Enagbare’s 246 pass-rushing snaps. His pass-rushing productivity, which measures sacks, hits and hurries per pass-rushing snap, was tied for 12th.

I hope we look back at these comments in 3 years and see who had the better crystal ball!  Listening to sportswriter's is like listening to commentators at an ice dance tournament much ado about nothing!  Football is a skill- it can be observed and commented on but results can often not be attributed to athletic skill!  There are true Athletic freaks (Mike Mamula) who didn't do squat in the NFL and guys with middling talent who had strong careers (Paul Coffman) so the results will speak for themselves.  I think Engabare has a unique set of skills and if he maximizes them he will have a long career. If he doesn't he will be the tall guy in Lumber at Home Depot!

@D J posted:

“He can bend, and he’s powerful. Thick lower body. They did a good job of singling him up,” Moore said. “But a power guy that can straight-arm guys. Power is his game.

“J.J. is an athletic kid. His 40 time is not indicative of the kind of athlete that he is. On our depth chart, he’s going to be expected to play (special teams). I’m sure he’ll help.

“We’re lucky to get him where we got him. He has good burst, good power. Kingsley played good competition at South Carolina. He’s a good player for us as an edge.”

https://www.greenvilleonline.c...football/9556927002/

OK, curiosity got the best of me.

Who is J.J. this guy is referring to?

I was listening to Sports talk radio today and the scout discussing Kingsley said there were things he saw reminded him of Zadarious Smith.  The reason for the comparison, Z was not a guy who tested high in athleticism, but his hands were so strong and quick it allowed him to do some things you wouldn’t think he could do without having a top size/speed/quickness profile.  

Most of the time comparisons that outlandish don’t end up coming to fruition, but hey, here’s to hoping Kingsley can show something that lets him contribute.

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