BrainDed posted:Henry posted:Is this the same conversation where people compare their checkbook to the financial responsibilities of the entire United States government?
...go on. I'll bite.
Goalline posted:BrainDed posted:It's not petty, it's business. If I'm hired to build a website and I take $500 up front and then proceed to change my mind after doing an hour of work, the client would want the money back.
Business also involves PR. This may be a PR nightmare for the Packers. Might have to let it go.
Good point.
I can sympathize with the kid... but why in the world should he be able to keep 300k? That's ridiculous.
He's probably paid $50K in taxes on it already. And spent a good portion of the rest. So if he's like most recent college grads he has little money. The Packers could sue but that wouldn't likely pay off even monetarily. Then factoring in the PR hit.
The Packers have cut draftees and eaten a signing bonus before. It's best just to write it off.
I get your point but he did play in the NCAA as a football player right? He's not broke. But I agree about not worrying about a signing bonus.
Peace out Cole. Wishing the very best young man.
BrainDed posted:
Fantastic news! That is one big road grader.
For those needing a refresher on Madison, good video here.
Good enough for Howard Mudd, good enough for me.
Hope the kid is mentally ready.
This is excellent news for Madison.
I think the kid has a chance.
Right at the beginning of the tape, and a little more detailed at the 1:20 mark, its pretty impressive how he takes care of the speed rusher #40, first he knocks him down with his arms, then when he has him down, he just mauls him
It'll be interesting to see how he shapes up in the run game since it wasn't his specialty. Either way, I feell WAAAAYY better about this oline. Still wouldn't mind a high pick though because Spriggs.
Another likely reason the Packers welcomed him back:
The 6-5, 308-pound Madison should adapt well to the Packers’ new wide-zone run game. Scouts said his strengths coming out of Washington State were his quickness and foot speed, which are essential in executing blocks in new coach Matt LaFleur’s run game.
Good for the Pack and I hope good for him.
Frankly I was not expecting this and it's like getting a free draft pick. AND I hope we've seen the last of Spriggs. Trade him to the Vikes. Double bonus.
had written him off completely. this is great news. hope he still has beast in him.
Packers potentially have a real O-Line?!?!? Psshhaawww.........yeah right.
Stuffed Jedediah is back. Two 1st rounders. Two 4th rounders. And two 5th rounders.
Put Risner next to Stuffed and don’t worry about the right side for a long while.
Cross my fingers... but I wouldn't expect anything out of him this year except spot duty. Away for a year, the emotional issues, the difficulty of being an NFL rookie, that's a lot for anyone to work through. If he just shows promise for next year and can come in for a series or two to give a guy a rest, that would be enough for now. Of course, given our OL, he could be better than the right side right now...
If he's shaky and needs time....already better than Spriggs and Bell were last year. 
If you’re an offensive lineman and the Packers draft you, history says you’re pretty much a lock to make the roster, regardless of the round.
Hes missed a year, but I really don’t know if that will matter. He’s effectively a rookie with an extended amount of time to heal any nagging injuries from his college career. If his head is right, he should be fine.
It's always better to have more options but I'm not expecting much. He isn't a 1st round can't miss pick. Marshall Newhouse, Jamon Meredith and Breno Giacomini were all 5th rounders. Corey Lindsley was the last 5th rounder(or later) to make a contribution. Before that it was Scott Wells. It's like one every ten years or so
I expect at least 2 OL draft picks. I sense an OL remake coming on.
By time camp starts Madison won't have played a down of football since his last college game. Almost 20 months passed. I think the Dame has it right.
Let's face it, the fact that he's back is great and everyone is rooting for him. But after what he's been through, and probably continues to go through, he's got a long way to go to even make the roster. The Packers essentially just signed a guy to be part of the starting five which is pretty set on paper. At this point it's all about adding a few depth pieces and finding Bulaga's eventual replacement.
Really illuminating article. Seems he's gonna be fine.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/...n-says-life-was-line
As one of "my guys" last year I'm definitely happy to see him back. He basically missed his rookie season due to a pre-season injury. He's not the first guy that's happened to.
Sounds like he might have been battling depression.
Packdog posted:Let's face it, the fact that he's back is great and everyone is rooting for him. But after what he's been through, and probably continues to go through, he's got a long way to go to even make the roster. The Packers essentially just signed a guy to be part of the starting five which is pretty set on paper. At this point it's all about adding a few depth pieces and finding Bulaga's eventual replacement.
So GM says that he is in good shape and looks like the player they drafted. I will agree with you some because the contact part might take some getting use to again. And we will see where he is with footwork. But as far as all we need is depth goes, we need more than depth and Bulaga's replacement. Lane Taylor can't stay healthy and neither can the current depth. I think Taylor should have to earn his way onto the OL this year. I don't care if it is Madison or another draft pick that provides the competition. We also need someone who can step in at center if Linsley gets injured. So maybe a true multi positional guy. Turner is one piece. But we need more. Maybe Madison is one of those pieces. But I see more of a remake going on. Especially since MLFs OL will need to be able to run. We are on the outside looking in and maybe more of the help we need is already on the roster. But that is what we are about to find out this week.
DH13 posted:Sounds like he might have been battling depression.
No schit, eh?
In a sport that prides itself on being a part of the Cult of 'Cho, gebins to this young man for asking for help. Hope he is able to achieve all his goals, because that depression monkey is a massive thing on your back to overcome.