Packdog posted:
If I could do that, I might never leave the house.
So other than poor coverage units and terrible return units, I really like our Special Teams.
Boris posted:Ummm..... & the Pack didn't have to spend a first rounder on him.
1979 - Saints have the #11 overall pick. What do they do? Spend it on a dual threat" Kicker/Punter Russel Erxleben out of Texas. Big leg. Saints rational is they can maximize rosters spots by only using one on the K/P. WTF?? Any wonder they were a laughing stock for so long?
Two picks later - Kellen Winslow, followed by Marty Lyons and then Eddie Lee. And that guy may have changed the fortunes of the Packers but for blowing out his knee in game #1 of his career at that sh!thole Soldier Field. And then two years later - blows his knee in game at that sh!thole Soldier Field. That leads to a drug and alcohol problem and a very shortened/mediocre career.
#2 ranked punter in the league and 1/10 yard short of being #1. Have packers ever had a punter in the top 10?
Hentrich was up there... Scribner has a few good years too.
PA green & gold posted:Packdog posted:
JK47 - BOOM !!
Damn. I pulled a leg muscle just looking at that extension. His knee is hitting his chin. He’s 6’6” and his foot is over his head. 😳🙀🙌
He could dunk a basketball with his foot!
DH13 posted:Making the opposing offense go the length of the field increases the number of plays they'll need to score. Increasing the number of plays they need to run increases the potential for TO's which plays well into the hand of our D. Flipper is essential to our D's success relying on TO's to make big stops.
I read somewhere that relying on TOs is not what you want to do.
It's not. But the punter may be helping them get them anyway. Getting TO's isn't a bad thing. But it can be a problem if it's the only thing. See?
The discussion about defense and turnovers feels like it could turn into a strike out versus ground out versus fly out discussion.
Points for > Points against = W's
Sure. Today. But those TO's are statistically more probable vs QB's more prone to them. As you get late in the season and into the playoffs you typically face better QBs that don't turn the ball over. So if the way you're keeping scoring down is via the TO and the TO's start to decline, scoring probably goes up.
I think this D is doing a little more to keep the scoring down than just generating TO's but I don't think you'll find anyone that thinks giving up as many yards as it does and being as vulnerable to the run and passes to the middle of the field is a recipe for success in the post season.
DH13 posted:As you get late in the season and into the playoffs you typically face better QBs that don't turn the ball over.
Not to nitpick, but you don't tend to face better QBs later in the season. You face whatever QBs are playing for the teams on your schedule. The Jets, Dolphins and Bills QBs aren't any better when the Pats play them late in the season than they were early in the season.
But, yes, in the playoffs, QBs tend to be better.
But you DO because teams are typically playing better toward the end of the season, i.e. there are always teams in contention for division and playoff spots. Those teams are usually ascending or peaking and the QB's usually playing better. Sometimes you'll get a cakewalk through December but that hasn't typically been the case in GB.
You don't think Cousins/MIN will be playing better the next time we see them than the first time?
That depends on if they are mathimatically eliminated from the playoffs. The same for all teams the Packers will face.
Last years playoffs had the murderers row of Cam, Mariotta, Dak, Trubisky, Cousins etal.
How many turnovers did those QB's give up? Including the guys you left off your list: Goff, Foles, Brees, Wilson, Brady, Mahomes, Watson, Luck.
Music City posted:Hentrich was up there... Scribner has a few good years too.
Hentrich punted in GB for four years. In those 4 years he was 18th (41.4), 14th (42.2), 20th (42.4) and 7th (45.0) in yards per punt.
He only finished two seasons above 45yds per and that was his first season in TN (47.2) and his last (46.9) and those three seasons are his only ones above 44 yds/punt.
JK finished last season at 44.7 and I thought that was a pretty marginal for the kid. This year he is good but I still think he can be better.
Who the fuck drafts a punter in the 5th round?
Hentrich seems to be considered the gold standard for packer punters. His avg doesn't look astounding, I wonder what his hang times were like.
Who drafts a punter then carries 2 punters on the 53 man roster all year?
I love it when you ask questions and already know the answer.
I bet I know who liked PACKERHAWK'S post.
DH13 posted:But you DO because teams are typically playing better toward the end of the season, i.e. there are always teams in contention for division and playoff spots. Those teams are usually ascending or peaking and the QB's usually playing better. Sometimes you'll get a cakewalk through December but that hasn't typically been the case in GB.
You don't think Cousins/MIN will be playing better the next time we see them than the first time?
You can’t seriously believe this, can you? A shitty QB is usually a shitty QB throughout a season.
Trent Dilfer won a SB. I doubt he was any better in the latter half of the season than the first half. Cousins will probably play better against the Packers in game 2 because it’s in Minnesota, not because it’s later in the season. Stafford is gonna be less prone to throw picks in the second half of the season? Trubisky has sucked because it’s early in the season? Jameis will be better in the second 8 games. The dregs in the AFC East will suddenly become good?
Sure, most QBs in the playoffs tend to perform better (in general) than other QBs, but below average QBs tend to be below average throughout a season, save a game here or there. That’s why they’re below average.
Wtf does this have to do with the punter?
My post was liked, possibly by the Packer's Punter. Or by YA. One of the two.
Again....JK Scott getting ignored. It's as bad as Rodgers throwing TD passes. We never get to see JK Scott!
JK Scott is on the field after every TD.
PackLandVA posted:
Sure, most QBs in the playoffs tend to perform better (in general) than other QBs, but below average QBs tend to be below average throughout a season, save a game here or there. That’s why they’re below average.
That was pretty much my whole point. But whatever.
DH13 posted:PackLandVA posted:
Sure, most QBs in the playoffs tend to perform better (in general) than other QBs, but below average QBs tend to be below average throughout a season, save a game here or there. That’s why they’re below average.
That was pretty much my whole point. But whatever.
But that's not what your original post stated.
"As you get late in the season and into the playoffs you typically face better QBs that don't turn the ball over. "
Has nothing to do with "late in the season". Bad QBs are bad throughout the season. They just don't make the playoff (usually). Anyway, mincing words, I guess.
JK Scott has been awesome!! Looking like a pretty good pick for a 5th rounder.
Maybe you 2 should start a thread about qb's late in the season.
Start with Kark Cousins
JK Scott...JK SCOTT!!
I think DH is saying that Aaron Rodgers is going to play better later in the season than he did against the Raiders.
Punters and kickers really need a different stat than the absolute individual stats so often trotted out. They need a comparative stat relative to how the other guy did that day. Players who get to regularly kick in southern and/or domed stadiums look a lot better than those who have to kick in cold, wind, rain, and snow on a regular basis. Does anybody know a website that reports those comparative averages over the course of a season?
Opie top vote-getter in a Fallon poll:
https://www.packersnews.com/st...snf-show/2494141001/
"Most likely to decorate his locker with a poster of the solar system"
Those are pretty good.
"How old is that guy?!?!?"
Floridarob posted:#2 ranked punter in the league and 1/10 yard short of being #1. Have packers ever had a punter in the top 10?
#44 Donny Anderson...I don't know if he was top 10 or not...but just try to imagine Aaron Jones punting....LOL kind of top 10 to me.
And he was a lefty...so the reverse spin made a lot of players muff as I remember.
Back in the day...the announcers were always talking about that reverse spin causing fumbled punts.