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Fackrell made some key plays. In fact, the defense got the stops when they needed them with Fackrell in the game, not Matthews. 

Matthews runs himself out of every pass play trying to get the quick and easy sack.  He plays like it's all he cares about.  If it looks like he's not getting the sack, he half-asses it.  Not much help in the run game, either.

Fackrell actually looked better than 52 by comparison.

Tschmack posted:

I just got through a good part of the rewind 

If you think 52 or Fackrell made a real impact JFC we set the bar pretty ****ing low 

Our pass rushers suck.  Our run defense was worse. And I’m the drunk? 

Goddamn I should drink more and maybe this schit defense will look mediocre 

The defense sucked ass until the end.  On those stops at the end, Fackrell made a couple plays.  Pretty much the only point made. 

Matthews had a sack at the end, after being a nonfactor the entire game.

Pistol GB posted:

Well of course, but not when he's half-assing it.

I'm about as down on 52 as a fan can be right now.  This is supposed to be the guy carrying the defense and he just isn't.

Agreed.   That swing pass to the flat where he just ran right by the receiver without coming close to tackling him was about as bad as it gets.   

Fandame posted:

I'm not risking MVS or ESB on kick-offs. I'd risk Moore, as long as I was sure he could hang onto the ball. MVS and now ESB have shown that with other guys out they can carry the load. Given this teeter-totter of a team, I don't want to be caught short on WRs.

Seriously, we can’t risk Scantling on ST now? He’s already the best gunner on the team. He should be returning kickoffs. Hell they had Cobb returning punts and that’s more dangerous than kickoffs are these days. 

Some time this year I will get my wish. He will be returning kicks and Alexander will be returning punts. If we want something besides mediocre ST play.  

ChilliJon posted:

ST are a grease fire. If Rodgers happens to carry this team to the playoffs Zook has the ability to make everyone forget about Seattle in 14. 

Never thought the bottom might be worse than Slocum. But Mike might have found him. And kept him. 

It's another example of Mike's loyalty to a fault.   I don't know a single person who was happy about hiring Zook.    If I recall correctly, he was on the staff in some role already at the time of hiring. 

BrainDed posted:

It's another example of Mike's loyalty to a fault.   I don't know a single person who was happy about hiring Zook.    If I recall correctly, he was on the staff in some role already at the time of hiring. 

He was the Asst. Special Teams coach. Do NFL HC's normally poll fans or the media IRT coaching staff changes? 

Grave Digger posted:
BrainDed posted:

It's another example of Mike's loyalty to a fault.   I don't know a single person who was happy about hiring Zook.    If I recall correctly, he was on the staff in some role already at the time of hiring. 

He was the Asst. Special Teams coach. Do NFL HC's normally poll fans or the media IRT coaching staff changes? 

Point being we all knew it was horrible hire at the time.   It's another example of being loyal to a fault or incompetent in evaluating coaches. 

IIRC, MI'Joe, Davis is eligible to return week 9. 
I'm assuming they may have that 2-week roster exemption before they have to fish/cut bait. Assuming he is healthy enough to do so, he may be anywhere from 1-3 weeks away.
As an aside, I posted in another thread that Kumerow is a week ahead of Davis. With the same health assumption, his decision should come this week or next.
Not that he needs to be returning kicks or punts, but his roster spot may be affected by Davis.

I haven't read/heard a word about either of them, their injury status, whether they are practicing, or any speculation of what the Packers may do.

He is.  But those snaps have to come from some one else's pocket.  Do you take snaps away from Cobb or Allison?  ESB and MVS may both have higher ceilings than Allison but as far as experience in the system and productivity, it probably comes down to ESB vs Allison since MVS is already getting more work.  Maybe their snap count stays the same but they make more of their opportunities if AR starts looking to them.

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