I love how he doesn't stop after knocking him on his ass. He searches him out laying at the feet of the lineman and goes in to block him again.
Must have spent some time with the OL coach.
Jones was blocking like Smith said something nasty about Jones' mother.
Now that's impressive!
Draft AND Develop
Thanks TED!!!
I've been saying this for years. Aaron Jones is EVERY bit as good as Dub Jones.
... but not as good as Sayers. Always the knees.
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Aaron Jones. Dual Threat.
â Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) October 11, 2019
Find ways to get him in space! Heâll do the rest ðhttps://t.co/Y3i3X7JjfX pic.twitter.com/7IlZHpqH1X
So Aaron Jones was fined $10,527 for his wave to Cowboys CB Byron Jones when scoring his 3rd TD. Even tho he was not penalized on the play the No Fun League came down hard on him.
Really fortunate he didn't draw a taunting flag on the play.
I thought his wave was dumb, but glad he didn't get flagged.There's a difference between fun and being an A-hole.
Agreed. Don't taunt the opponent. Celebrate with your teammates instead.
Boris posted:Agreed. Don't taunt the opponent. Celebrate with your teammates instead.
While I agree, I LOL'ed the first time I saw it!
Yea, I think Aaron Jones' money was well-spent there...
With all the shit talking going on out there, I'm a little surprised that drew a fine.
What kills me, absolutely slays me, is the fact the only Eagles player to get fined from our game with them was Barnett. Out of how many (6-7?) PF penalties, that's the only one.
But then fine a player for some crap like this.
NFLFU indeed.
PackLandVA posted:I thought his wave was dumb, but glad he didn't get flagged.There's a difference between fun and being an A-hole.
I still think he first intended to get ready for a stiff arm then realized how much space he had. Got caught up in the moment.
Hope the other Aaron peels off a few bills from his State Farms commercials or puts Jones in a commercial to cover the fine.
I think you'd be surprised how the players get their fines covered.
Do tell.
Aaron Jones is currently the highest graded HB/FB in pass protection this season (91.0).
â PFF GB Packers (@PFF_Packers) October 24, 2019
Jones actually hasn't allowed a pressure since Week 15 of his rookie season - nearly 60 pass-blocking during this time frame.#GoPackGo
Weakness has become a strength.
He had a couple of blitz pickups last week that were as good as you will ever see from a RB.
I don't think it was ever a weakness. More of MM being a pussy and not trusting the kid.
I agree. Hard to prove anything either way without the reps.
The way Jones is playing right now, he's gonna costs us a lot of money some day soon...
RB's are a dime a dozen.
Yeah, but good ones aren't.
The most underpaid position in football.
Hereâs the ball, go get your entire body bashed in for 3 hours. Shower up and do it again in a week. Brutal.
5 years later youâre done.
The rookie needs to get the playbook down pronto. We need a sacrificial here so our double-barreled is shooting straight for the last quarter.
At $695K, Green Bay Packersâ Running Back Aaron Jones Is The NFLâs Best Bargain
âYou donât find too many running backs that can go out and produce like that,â LaFleur said. âYou donât see too many running backs that you can put them on the outside that can run a slant and go. I mean heâs dynamic as a runner, as a receiver as a pass protector. I think heâs a complete back.â
At least they know Aaron Jones name. From the SI recap of the game:
Feeling the pressure yet again, Rodgers rolled out of the pocket and heaved a pass toward the right sideline as he fell to the ground. There, Damien Williams somehow took the ball away from Chiefs linebacker Ben Niemann while tapping both feet inbounds.
Way to go SI!
BrainDed posted:I don't think it was ever a weakness. More of MM being a pussy and not trusting the kid.
I think it was a weakness before he strengthened up. He got run over by LBs in the past now he can hang.
Holy Shat..
At midseason, #Packers RB Aaron Jones: 466 rush yards, 8 rush TD, 355 receiving yards, 3 receiving TD.
â Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) October 28, 2019
16-game pace: 932 rush yards, 710 receiving yards (1,642 total yards), 22 TD.
Jones currently leads NFL in TDs.
I think Aaron Jones epitomizes exactly what has been wrong with the Packers for years. They have lacked speed and quickness and for quite a few years size as well.
Other teams have had players like Jones, good in space, fast, quick, hard to get down because you can't catch them. Who has GB had since before Terdell Middleton broke down who has been like that? I cannot name one.
They have had some good backs, Eddie Lee, A Green, Levens, Paul Ott Carruth and Harlan Huckleby. But none of them was that explosive, shifty guy. I think every team needs at least a couple guys like that and probably more on both sides of the ball.
Jonathon Franklin woulda been special had he not gone down
Another issue is the previous coach's willingness/ability to properly utilize the talent.
Most Targets to RBs...
â Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) October 28, 2019
1. NE - 93 (73-651yds-2 TDs)
2. LAC - 86 (73-603yds-7 TDs)
3. NOR - 75 (61-467yds-2 TDs)
3. GB - 74 (63-594yds-7 TDs)
Significant change for the Packers.
Who the heck is:
3. NOR???
Norway dummy!
lol! that's the first thing that came to my mind. I wonder if it's supposed to be NOS (New Orleans Saints)??
Edit: or maybe NOR = New Orleans. I've never seen it abbreviated that way
Did the backs even have 75 targets for all of 2018? I know Jones passed his 2018 total already.
We were all screaming for MM to put the ball in Jones hands last year. If he had done so, he still might be coaching.
We do what we do.
I bet you have that tattooed on your body somewhere.....
FinnLander posted:I bet you have that tattooed on your body somewhere.....
No.
It annoyed me when he said it, so un-Bellichick.
BrainDed posted:We were all screaming for MM to put the ball in Jones hands last year. If he had done so, he still might be coaching.
How could MM have put the ball in Jones' hands last season when he was starting Montgomery?
Somehow MM looked at the 3 RBs on the 2018 roster and decided the always injured one who was really a WR was the best fit for his offense.
Gute had to ship Ty out to force MM's hand.
Yeah, Ty has been so productive with the Jets.
The level of play Jones is playing at right now, he is the best RB the Pack has had since Ahman Green was at his peak in 2003.
I don't think Jones is quite as good as Green in terms of pure running ability, but his pass receiving skills make him a versatile weapon that frankly I'm not sure the Pack has really had ever. Guys like Dorsey Levens and Edgar Bennett had great hands but weren't as fast as Jones and really weren't true down the field threats even though on rare occasion they might surprise someone and catch a 25 yarder.
I loved Eddie Lacy's brute strength and surprising quickness for a big back in 2013 and 2014. But even during those 2 very good years for him, he wasn't a breakaway guy and he really wasn't a guy that could challenge downfield as a receiver. Maybe as a pure runner during those peak seasons, he might have been every bit as good as Jones, but he was nowhere near the receiving threat that Jones is.
FinnLander posted:I bet you have that tattooed on your body somewhere.....
No; he has "Like Reply" tattooed on his body.
Fedya posted:FinnLander posted:I bet you have that tattooed on your body somewhere.....
No; he has "Like Reply" tattooed on his body.
Hateful.
Ahman Green and Ryan Grant are the names that pop into my head when thinking about backs that are in Jones class (or Jones in their class). Green and Grant ran faster at the combine than Jones. I remember Green being near world class speed in college. Jones looks plenty fast on the field though.
Aaron Jones is a stud. My only concern with him is his size. Gotta stay healthy baby.
Both times Jones injured his MCL came on shitcagos soldier field, if I remember correctly. Since he did not have an injury there in week one perhaps hes good to go for the rest of the season injury wise.
Not comparing abilities or styles, but Barry Sanders was 5'8", 203 lbs and Jones is 5'9", 208 lbs. Jones looks compact to me and I think he will hold up well.
The way MLF is using him reminds me of Thurman Thomas during Buffalo's glory days. Run, catch, just get yards and score.
TT is a good comp. Jonrs plays much faster than 4.56 it seems.
In my opinion, we're gonna have to pay this guy. Once he's on the open market, he'll cash in.
fightphoe93 posted:The level of play Jones is playing at right now, he is the best RB the Pack has had since Ahman Green was at his peak in 2003.
I don't think Jones is quite as good as Green in terms of pure running ability, but his pass receiving skills make him a versatile weapon that frankly I'm not sure the Pack has really had ever. Guys like Dorsey Levens and Edgar Bennett had great hands but weren't as fast as Jones and really weren't true down the field threats even though on rare occasion they might surprise someone and catch a 25 yarder.
I loved Eddie Lacy's brute strength and surprising quickness for a big back in 2013 and 2014. But even during those 2 very good years for him, he wasn't a breakaway guy and he really wasn't a guy that could challenge downfield as a receiver. Maybe as a pure runner during those peak seasons, he might have been every bit as good as Jones, but he was nowhere near the receiving threat that Jones is.
Uhm...let's not put him in the Ring of Honor quite yet.
Hornung was the best RB we ever had as a weapon. Threw for TD's ran for em..kicked FG"s and XP...and laid more dollies than Max could shake a stick at.
Tdog posted:Jonathon Franklin woulda been special had he not gone down
That triggers a standard reply involving your aunt and testicles
oldschool posted:fightphoe93 posted:Hornung was the best RB we ever had as a weapon. Threw for TD's ran for em..kicked FG"s and XP...and laid more dollies than Max could shake a stick at.
And missed a whole year that may well have cost Vince and the Packers another championship.
Well-deserved.
2nd time Aaron Jones has received O player of the week this year. Not bad after only 8 weeks. And I get the sense MLF is just scratching the surface of how he's going to use Jones the rest of the year. And that includes MLF putting Williams and Jones in the backfield together. Good luck with that.
ChilliJon posted:2nd time Aaron Jones has received O player of the week this year. Not bad after only 8 weeks. And I get the sense MLF is just scratching the surface of how he's going to use Jones the rest of the year. And that includes MLF putting Williams and Jones in the backfield together. Good luck with that.
Love that backfield with BOTH of them considering they're both adequate at least on blitz pickup, threats to run or receive.
MLF is doing with Jones what MM tried to do with Montgomery.
oldschool posted:fightphoe93 posted:The level of play Jones is playing at right now, he is the best RB the Pack has had since Ahman Green was at his peak in 2003.
Uhm...let's not put him in the Ring of Honor quite yet.
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Considering no Packer RB has been added to the Packers HOF since Ahman, looks like a Straw Man at work here.
Care to name the RB's we've had since Green that were better than Jones?
Ryan Grant? Had a few really good years. Never was a dynamic player. 4.3 career YPC, slightly abover average. 29 TD's in 5 seasons.
Eddie Lacy? Couple of good years. Crowd favorite until the buffets did him in. 4.2 career YPC. 30 TD's in his 4 years in GB.
Jones' YPC is down this year but still 5.0 for his career. When he's split out it's like having another WR on the field. 24 TD's in 2 1/2 seasons and 11 in 8 games this year.
No one else is worth mentioning. Who you taking out of those 3 today?
To be fair, he said the ring of honor, not the Packers' Hall of Fame.
At halftime Collinsworth said KC wouldn't cover him with linebackers any more. They did.
skully posted:At halftime Collinsworth said KC wouldn't cover him with linebackers any more. They did.
That was pretty funny.
DH13 posted:MLF is doing with Jones what MM tried to do with Montgomery.
No, it is not. Montgomery was a WR who wanted to play RB and MM did not have the balls to say no. Jones is a RB that happens to be very very good at swinging out of the backfield and catching passes.
ammo posted:DH13 posted:MLF is doing with Jones what MM tried to do with Montgomery.
No, it is not. Montgomery was a WR who wanted to play RB and MM did not have the balls to say no. Jones is a RB that happens to be very very good at swinging out of the backfield and catching passes.
It's also what MM tried to with Cobb quite often. The problem was that he wasn't big enough to carry the ball enough to force defenses to play an extra DB consistently.
Montgomery was a great RB against the Bears for 4 games in 2016 and 2017. Against everyone else he was average.
In the 4 games against the Bears in 2016-2017, he had 36 carries for 304 yards and 3 TDs. 8.4 yards per carry. He had a 16 carry, 162 yard game and another 9 carry, 60 yard game.
In the other 45 games of his career, he's had 167 carries for 668 yards and 4 TDs. That's 4.0 yards per carry and a TD every 67 carries.
Those two games in 2016 with the big yardage totals fooled MM and the staff into thinking he could be a guy that could be a real RB.
MichiganPacker2 posted:ammo posted:DH13 posted:MLF is doing with Jones what MM tried to do with Montgomery.
No, it is not. Montgomery was a WR who wanted to play RB and MM did not have the balls to say no. Jones is a RB that happens to be very very good at swinging out of the backfield and catching passes.
It's also what MM tried to with Cobb quite often. The problem was that he wasn't big enough to carry the ball enough to force defenses to play an extra DB consistently.
Montgomery was a great RB against the Bears for 4 games in 2016 and 2017. Against everyone else he was average.
In the 4 games against the Bears in 2016-2017, he had 36 carries for 304 yards and 3 TDs. 8.4 yards per carry. He had a 16 carry, 162 yard game and another 9 carry, 60 yard game.
In the other 45 games of his career, he's had 167 carries for 668 yards and 4 TDs. That's 4.0 yards per carry and a TD every 67 carries.
Those two games in 2016 with the big yardage totals fooled MM and the staff into thinking he could be a guy that could be a real RB.
Yeah, he was blind to what he COULD do with Jones, just like he was blind to the amazing possibilities of Taysom Hill and cut him and Sean Peyton in NO has had a field day using this exceptional athlete on special teams, gadget plays, etc.
ammo posted:DH13 posted:MLF is doing with Jones what MM tried to do with Montgomery.
No, it is not. Montgomery was a WR who wanted to play RB and MM did not have the balls to say no. Jones is a RB that happens to be very very good at swinging out of the backfield and catching passes.
Some of the patterns that Jones has run require a lot more skill than a typical RB catching a swing pass out of the backfield. Other than one embarrassing helmet doink, he is probably the best receiving RB the Packers have had in my lifetime of watching games (since 1975).
Even Ahman Green, who was a great threat out of the backfield on check downs and screens, looked like a RB who would stop to catch the ball on a pass and then run. On the play where he stepped out of bounds at the 10, Jones ran a route where he cut inside to force the LB to turn his hips that way and then blew right past him on the outside. He looked more like Greg Jennings or Davante Adams running a route than a typical RB.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1188621756065615873
The TD he caught earlier in the year where he was facing the other direction and turned his body running full speed to catch the pass is also something you don't see many RBs do.
Fedya posted:To be fair, he said the ring of honor, not the Packers' Hall of Fame.
Yeah, I was trying to back his strawman argument down a little bit. Doing a favor to someone that doesn't deserve one. At least Ahman Green and Packer HOF work within a strawman argument. Ahman Green and Ring of Honor creates a double strawman.
ammo posted:DH13 posted:MLF is doing with Jones what MM tried to do with Montgomery.
No, it is not. Montgomery was a WR who wanted to play RB and MM did not have the balls to say no. Jones is a RB that happens to be very very good at swinging out of the backfield and catching passes.
That's not what happened from what I recall. RB depth was shredded, so they put Monty there. He performed quite well initially and MM liked what he brought (receiving skills) to the position, so he stuck with him. Then the league figured him out, in the MM scheme.
Yeah, I was trying to back his strawman argument down a little bit
And I was going to crack a joke that the PHOF's standards are so low they'll even enshrine someone like Bill Schroeder. But I looked it up and they haven't inducted him yet.
ammo posted:DH13 posted:MLF is doing with Jones what MM tried to do with Montgomery.
No, it is not. Montgomery was a WR who wanted to play RB and MM did not have the balls to say no. Jones is a RB that happens to be very very good at swinging out of the backfield and catching passes.
Sure it was. Doesn't matter what 88 and 33 (interesting #s) skill sets were/are. MM wanted to use 88 as an "X" factor he could use all over the formation. Which he did try. Problem is 88 never solidified himself as a consistent running threat which is half of the whole "dual threat" proposition for such a player. Jones, above showing dual threat skills, has the added dimension/speed of being able to go the distance on any given play. I think that is what terrifies defenses the most.
88 was forced into a RB position when Lacy and all others went out. Before that, MM was using Cobb out of the backfield to force mismatches, but from my recollection, Cobb never posed much of a threat as a runner so teams didn't adjust as MM would have liked. 88 was not a bad runner and seemed to have potential but the bulk he eventually added seemed to slow him down a bit. I always though 88 never reached his potential under MM and might have been more successful under a different coach, but it seems he hasn't done anything post-Packer so maybe the Packers got all he had out of him.
GratefulPack posted:88 was forced into a RB position when Lacy and all others went out. Before that, MM was using Cobb out of the backfield to force mismatches, but from my recollection, Cobb never posed much of a threat as a runner so teams didn't adjust as MM would have liked. 88 was not a bad runner and seemed to have potential but the bulk he eventually added seemed to slow him down a bit. I always though 88 never reached his potential under MM and might have been more successful under a different coach, but it seems he hasn't done anything post-Packer so maybe the Packers got all he had out of him.
MM prioritized RB blitz pickup ability above anything else. That's why we put John Kuhn as a single back on the field on passing downs for years. We all loved him, but he was no threat to the defense to run or catch a ball out of the backfield - unless he was left wide open. Sometimes if worked beautifully (like when he blocked Peppers to allow Rodgers to throw the TD pass to Cobb against the Bears to get into the playoffs a few years ago). Most of the time, it made them entirely predictable and set up a situation where the defense could scheme to stop designed plays and then Rodgers reverted to sandlot football and bailed them out. Having a good blocking RB on the field helped extend those plays, but it was all freelance.
Exactly....when you get to play 11 on 10, that really gives the defense quite an advantage.
When we talk "stale" that's the shit we're talking about. It's incredibly short sighted & stupid to not use all your personnel.
It's almost like everyone forgets MM had Jones and couldn't figure out how to use him adequately. Jones has more catches after 8 games in 2019 than he had in 2 years with MM. How MM tried to use Montgomery in comparison to Jones is totally irrelevant. He never really figured out how to use either.
Jones was Ted's last great pick in round 5 2017. Thanks Ted. Same draft that landed Kevin King, Jamaal Williams and Montravius Adams. Not a bad walk off....
ChilliJon posted:It's almost like everyone forgets MM had Jones and couldn't figure out how to use him adequately. Jones has more catches after 8 games in 2019 than he had in 2 years with MM. How MM tried to use Montgomery in comparison to Jones is totally irrelevant.
Jones was Ted's last great pick in round 5 2017. Thanks Ted.
Too much wild ass assumption going on around here. You remind me of Custer...how did that work out?
MiLF has wisely used Jones as a desperation move with Adams going down...but we don't know if he would have done this without being pushed by circumstance.
It could just be he lucked out...probable even. He didn't start the season with Jones used like this...sooo let's stop projecting genius onto the kid just yet.
Everything has broken MiLF's way so far...and he's having a musical love fest with the players and this supposedly new millennial football culture he has brought with him.
But the question remains....does he have the gravitas to hold it together when things go bad? Not at all sure of that yet.
My God you're an idiot.
So you're saying he was forced into devising a game plan that made Jones even more explosive than he already was in the run game? Or even better, he didn't actually devise the scheme it just showed up on his doorstep and he was obligated to use it?
Yeah, that sounds reasonable.
We have a new coach who doesn't have his best WR on the field so instead of going McVince he actually created a fantastic plan that exploited KC's weakness all game long.
Jesus fuck.
ChilliJon posted:My God you're an idiot.
And what ...pray tell...did I say that wasn't true and triggered you.. so insultingly?
Asking for a couple of friends...Sitting Bull and CRazyHorse
Go to the notification settings and turn off email..... or... if you really want to get funky with it, take 30 seconds and create a rule in your email box to delete the like notifications.
Everybody has a fetish other people think is odd.
You got a problem with midget porn?
Henry posted:So you're saying he was forced into devising a game plan that made Jones even more explosive than he already was in the run game? Or even better, he didn't actually devise the scheme it just showed up on his doorstep and he was obligated to use it?
Yeah, that sounds reasonable.
We have a new coach who doesn't have his best WR on the field so instead of going McVince he actually created a fantastic plan that exploited KC's weakness all game long.
Jesus fuck.
Ok...so your argument is one game against KC makes MiLF an unimpeachable genius.
And this from the guy railing about peeps liking Ty Summers all preseason.
Irony much? Asking for friends..Sittin Bull and Hunter Biden
LOL, nice deflection. You basically say Mayo had the game plan "forced" on him yet he actually did something we haven't seen in years. Even more laughable is your continued use of gravitas. If Sherman's Pet Boy keeps winning who gives a fuck about gravitas.
Keep your pathetic shit on track and quit lying about your heritage you cracker nutball.
Cracker Nutball T-shirts on the way!
oldschool posted:Ok...so your argument is one game against KC makes MiLF an unimpeachable genius.
And this from the guy railing about peeps liking Ty Summers all preseason.
Irony much? Asking for friends..Sittin Bull and Hunter Biden
You don't deserve a last warning, but this will serve as your notice. Cut the shit.
Henry posted:LOL, nice deflection. You basically say Mayo had the game plan "forced" on him yet he actually did something we haven't seen in years. Even more laughable is your continued use of gravitas. If Sherman's Pet Boy keeps winning who gives a fuck about gravitas.
Keep your pathetic shit on track and quit lying about your heritage you cracker nutball.
So gravitas gets you...cuz u know I'm right.
I can prove my heritage..and I'm on the tribal voting rolls...racist much?
Yes, completely racist cracker nutball.
Still don't understand how gravitas equates with 7-1 and innovative game planning. Ageist much?
I should clarify. Not only am I racist but I'm mostly a choadist.