@CUPackFan posted:I bet his release has already been discussed and he's cut loose pretty early in the offseason as a show of respect, so he can find his ideal landing spot (ie: the Jets).
If Bakh stays true to his word, he won't play for the Jets on that turf, and may not play on any artificial turf. That removes more than half of his possible destinations. Of course, there are also about 40 million reasons why he might ignore his turf proclimations and go to a team with it anyway.
@CUPackFan posted:Bakh isn't coming back. He has a $40m cap hit in the last year of his deal and Pack saves $21.5m by releasing him. Zero chance he's back at $40m so that means an extension. If he was healthy, that would make sense but he's not. He literally can't play. He hasn't been able to play consistently in like 4 years. Walker is the starter in training camp but Gute should draft an OT high.
I bet his release has already been discussed and he's cut loose pretty early in the offseason as a show of respect, so he can find his ideal landing spot (ie: the Jets).
Bakh is likely coming back and he tweeted about it earlier this year. The Packer MDs know his knee better than any and he wants them as part of his crew as he seeks to return to playing. Starting over with new MDs is less than ideal in his view
On the contract side, the $20M from his signing bonus is a sunk cost, while the base salary will be significantly reduced & re-structured so GB has protection. Small salary, lots of incentives based on playing time.
IF his knee is good to go after the latest clean-up, GB will know during offseason OTAs and minicamp
Meanwhile, I think they'll draft a developmental OT and keep stocking the shelf
Yosh finds a new home elsewhere. He's 28 now and the Packers have taken Yosh about as far as he can go on the development side.
LT Bakh/Rasheed/Draft pick
RT Tom/Tenuta/draft pick
No clue on massive Caleb Jones
What if he refuses to restructure? Trade or cut?
Make him play on the old turf at Philly, Pitts or Cincy....
That'll feel good on the knee.
@YATittle posted:If we have pick 20 as our first pick, the good LTs will be gone.
Then take the top interior OL which is a much bigger need than LT currently. There should be good value at this spot in the draft and they usually can start on Week 1.
Walker has proven himself to at least not be a liability on the field - can you say the same about Myers and Runyan?
I also would like to see another big-bodied NT on the roster next year. Right now all they have is TJ Slaton.
If his knee is healthy I hope you are right that he will restructure.
Given that almost any restructure costs the players exactly zero $$ there's no reason to think he wouldn't do it.
#Packers LT Rasheed Walker gave up only 13 pressures and committed only 2 penalties over the final 8 games.
— Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) January 9, 2024
Played really well down the stretch.
The technical term for what Rasheed Walker does here is “motherfucking” 94 pic.twitter.com/A6CsYdaFqF
— Peter Bukowski (@Peter_Bukowski) January 8, 2024
Sorry , can't get the video to post directly.
Another Rasheed Walker tweet: He ranked as the No. 6 offensive tackle in the NFL by PFF grade between Week 9-18.
— Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) January 9, 2024
The only better tackles: Penei Sewell, Braden Smith, Tyron Smith, Kaleb McGary, Trent Williams. That's it.
Has Marshall Newhouse approved of this message?
Truly, one hell of a gem find by Gute. So much so, I am not sure that LT is a true priority in the 2024 draft. I still think Gute takes a T somewhere, but damn, finding not just Walker but also what looks to be a franchise/Pro Bowl RT in Tom is just amazing.
More picks = more chances to find that diamond.
2024....we have a lot of picks again
@YATittle posted:If we have pick 20 as our first pick, the good LTs will be gone.
it really is a 19 player draft this year
As others have said, getting both your new starting OT's in the back half of any draft is just cheating. And in the same draft its just nuts. Add a potential starting G or at least good depth in Rhyan and you're so far ahead of the odds.
Law of averages is going to say, Gute is due to draft 9 3rd rounders this spring.
@Boris posted:More picks = more chances to find that diamond.
2024....we have a lot of picks again
And in 2025 we are picking at home!
@PackerHawk posted:And in 2025 we are picking at home!
@DH13 posted:The technical term for what Rasheed Walker does here is “motherfucking” 94 pic.twitter.com/A6CsYdaFqF
— Peter Bukowski (@Peter_Bukowski) January 8, 2024Sorry , can't get the video to post directly.
That looks like a version of Reggie's hump move! It also looked like both Walker and 94 were surprised at what he did -- it was a little Cris Carter-ish from the offensive side of the ball.
@michiganjoe posted:Another Rasheed Walker tweet: He ranked as the No. 6 offensive tackle in the NFL by PFF grade between Week 9-18.
— Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) January 9, 2024
The only better tackles: Penei Sewell, Braden Smith, Tyron Smith, Kaleb McGary, Trent Williams. That's it.
That’s abuse. We barely knew you, Bacteria.
He totally did the humpty hump on 94.
I'll find the clip but he also pancaked a guy and dry humped him on the ground once at Penn St. Dude is not...polite.
I disagree with the comparison to Newhouse who I never respected. This guy, I think, could be above average, maybe not Baku but decent
Newhouse played in the league ten years and started over 80 games for (I think) five teams, mainly at tackle, but IIRC a few at guard his last year in Green Bay. He wasn't a star by any stretch, but he was a solid journeyman who had a number of good games and held the fort.
He was no Logan Mankins as a runner, though.
@Pikes Peak posted:
Pick a winner!!
Nostrildamus!
Does Gute and Co want Bakh back? Can they deal with his contract/cap issues? I think the Draft and FA will say a lot regarding Bakh's future, with this team.
Depends how confident they are in his knee and 69's willingness to restructure.
Gute has some leverage.
If anyone says they're confident about Bakh's knee, they're lying. He's played 14 out of a possible 50 games the last 3 years and that doesn't even include the games he started and couldn't finish. His knee is a mess and I wouldn't rust any doctor who says "all good, give him $20m guaranteed".
I'm all for bringing him back but Packers need to protect themselves. If he wants to return, he has to agree to turn his salary into incentives based on games played. He makes the vet minimum and gets $1m per game played. That gets him his full 2024 salary per his contract if he plays. No more paying him to be on IR.
I like the idea and the fact that he could earn his entire contract, CU. But is there a limit as to the incentives a player's contract can have? I'm not sure if you can incentivize that much of a contact.
If per game is too complicated we could dumb it down to x amount of money per game minute available. He'd be praying for overtime.
@CUPackFan posted:If anyone says they're confident about Bakh's knee, they're lying. He's played 14 out of a possible 50 games the last 3 years and that doesn't even include the games he started and couldn't finish. His knee is a mess and I wouldn't rust any doctor who says "all good, give him $20m guaranteed".
I'm all for bringing him back but Packers need to protect themselves. If he wants to return, he has to agree to turn his salary into incentives based on games played. He makes the vet minimum and gets $1m per game played. That gets him his full 2024 salary per his contract if he plays. No more paying him to be on IR.
I agree with the second paragraph but from what I've heard regarding the knee, he had a fluid build up issue caused by a "mistake" in the original procedure. I believe they finally corrected it in this last procedure. IIRC.
Still, it's another opening of the knee, and that's never a good thing. A guy who is tall and big, combined with a heavier weight, added to the position played where a lineman has pressure on the knee every down, makes for a dicey situation. Bakh is right about playing on turf though: it's even worse because the grip is so much better that it adds a ton of additional stress and torque. But, once you start digging into a knee, it's never the same again.
I’d like to move on from Bahk. Love the guy but it’s time to find the future LT and let them settle in.
Expecting him to play 17 games, or more, isn’t reasonable and I don’t think the turmoil that comes with that is worth it.
A reasonable estimate would be 10 to 12 games. Those other 7 games you are playing your swing tackle and at real risk for disaster if he or the RT gets hurt.
Adam Stenavich says Rasheed Walker has "a ways to go" before securing #Packers long-term LT position, but isn't ruling it out: "We'll see. These young guys, you never know how high their ceiling is going to be."
— Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) January 11, 2024
Interesting that Stenovich isn't as impressed with Walker as some of the media analysts. Although this is the same guy that has made some very puzzling OL moves the last couple years.
@DH13 posted:He totally did the humpty hump on 94.
I'll find the clip but he also pancaked a guy and dry humped him on the ground once at Penn St. Dude is not...polite.
Rasheed Walker vs Chicago
— Jacob Morley (@JacobMorley) January 9, 2024
pic.twitter.com/ljrT9QU3bA
Stumbled upon a "2022 Re-Draft" in the link above. Something that I found very interesting is the Re-Draft had Rasheed Walker going #6 overall to Carolina and is the first OL taken in the Re-Draft.
"....the Panthers select Packers seventh-rounder Rasheed Walker, who ranked second in ESPN’s pass-rush win-rate rankings among offensive tackles."
Doesn't really mean anything other than Walker's very solid second season is noticed by people other than Packers fans.
A couple of other tidbits re Green Bay:
-the Re-Draft has the Packers NOT taking Quay Walker at 22, but rather they draft CB Martin Emerson (Browns) to help in the secondary. That said, Quay is Re-drafted five picks later by Jacksonville at pick 27 over Devin Lloyd. The rationale being Llloyd has been good but Quay has been better.
-Devonte Wyatt is NOT picked by Green Bay at pick 28. Surprisingly, despite his injuries/lack of availability, this site thinks Christian Watson was worthy of 1st-round status based on numbers when he does play. And that's who Green Bay takes with pick 28.
