Six, although apparently Sam has indicated a target of eight weeks.
Edit: Six weeks on IR with another two week wait to play:
The new bylaw will allow teams to choose one player to return to practice among their players already on injured reserve, provided that player has spent at least six weeks on injured reserve. That player would then be able to return to the active roster and play in a game two weeks later.
I would not be shocked if he doesn't play again. He was out 4 weeks last season with his concussion, now by being placed on IR will be out 13 weeks this season with another. It is not only a cumulative injury with each subsequent concussion being worse and by itself not a reason to keep playing, given the Packers history of not returning players facing life altering injuries (Finley, Nick Collins) I could see the Packers not clearing him even if he wanted to return.
Ted will be shopping for a CB in the 2017 draft. Sam Shields/Julius Peppers will open up some big cap money, not that Ted will do anything with it.
Good luck to Sam....
This is my fear, too. And even if he's willing to risk it, I can't see the Packers willing to let him come back for another year given the risk. They've shown that they will keep a guy from playing for his own good. There's also the business implications of committing $12M in cap space to a player that managed only 6 quarters of football between 5+ week injuries.
This is why they don't put Abby on the field.
Then cut Abby. Goodbye, Sam. I hope there's no long-term effects...
You really believe they would waste a roster spot on a player they are afraid is going to get a concussion? Go back to reviewing ****ing movies. ****!!!!
Don't mind Fedya...he got concussed reviewing the last Will Smith movie.
I figured you were all smart enough that I didn't need to include the emoticon. Of course, if I had, you still would have criticized me as a matter of course.
Your first mistake was assuming X4 posters were "smart enough"
Most of us can't manage basic personal daily care----you think nuanced comments aren't going to be misunderstood?
Russian please.
"We are protected by the enormity of your stupidity -- for a time."
packerboi posted:Ted will be shopping for a CB in the 2017 draft. Sam Shields/Julius Peppers will open up some big cap money, not that Ted will do anything with it.
Maybe AJ Hawk could use another 3 year deal.
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Your Mom was kind of hot.
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Fedya posted:Russian please.
"Go back to reviewing ****ing movies" would respond but is too busy icing the cookies or trying to arrange a meating
Love the X4 lexicon - helps ease the pain of the ass kicking last weekend
I'd say more than consider- they have to do it.
packerboi posted:Ted will be shopping for a CB in the 2017 draft. Sam Shields/Julius Peppers will open up some big cap money, not that Ted will do anything with it.
HaHa, Davante Adams & Richard Rodgers will be going into their last season under contract in 2017.
TT will want to lock them up before they hit free agency, so we'll need to squirrel away that money saved on Shields & Peppers for our own guys.
I definitely think Shields will be a candidate for being cut. His cap hit is 12 million next year, that's far too much for a CB who is one concussion away from being done for good. Of that 12 million hit, 9 is salary/bonus money due. so it's not like he would be a candidate for restructure unless his agent could convince him to take less money now or face taking a lot less on the open market (maybe)? He will only cost 3.1 million in dead money if he's cut.
SteveLuke posted:packerboi posted:Ted will be shopping for a CB in the 2017 draft. Sam Shields/Julius Peppers will open up some big cap money, not that Ted will do anything with it.
HaHa, Davante Adams & Richard Rodgers will be going into their last season under contract in 2017.
TT will want to lock them up before they hit free agency, so we'll need to squirrel away that money saved on Shields & Peppers for our own guys.
You must be kidding with Adams & even possibly R. Rodgers? If Adams does not show significant improvement I don't see it. Rodgers would be an adequate 2nd-3rd TE. Ha Ha is a "must keep".
Translation: Adams will get a $5 million/year deal from the AJ Hawk Memorial Contract Fund.
TT will offer contracts to Adams and Rodgers, they will be valued based on their production. Right now that's not much for either player. It's not going to cost 5 million to keep Adams.
Need to quit keeping 5 year development projects.
Blair Kiel posted:Your first mistake was assuming X4 posters were "smart enough"
Most of us can't manage basic personal daily care----you think nuanced comments aren't going to be misunderstood?
Russian please.
I'm wearing two different colored tightie whities right now.
SteveLuke posted:packerboi posted:Ted will be shopping for a CB in the 2017 draft. Sam Shields/Julius Peppers will open up some big cap money, not that Ted will do anything with it.
HaHa, Davante Adams & Richard Rodgers will be going into their last season under contract in 2017.
TT will want to lock them up before they hit free agency, so we'll need to squirrel away that money saved on Shields & Peppers for our own guys.
If he resigns Adams and DikRod we will know he has lost his damn mind.
So you are in favor of keeping them i.e. re-signing them.
Henry posted:Need to quit keeping 5 year development projects.
Then what's the point of drafting if you're not willing to be patient through development? Best case scenario you get guys who get it right away like Martinez, but more often you're going to get guys that it may not truly click until year 3-5. I wouldn't pay these guys premium coin, but if the investment is low in Adams and R. Rodgers then it's a no brainer. Low risk, high reward on guys like this who are low producers but high in potential. Adams is on pace for his best season as a pro, stat wise, although you're still talking about #3 receiver production at best (not trying to make it sound like he's producing a ton).
5 years doesn't work in this league especially for a 2nd rounder. 2 or 3 years sure. Anything over that is a waste of a roster spot. Adams screams journeyman.
Good year for CB in the draft...some projecting as many as 4-5 going in round 1.
That said, we will probably take a safety. BPA and all.
Seniors
1. Cordrea Tankersley, Clemson
2. Tre'Davious White, LSU
3. Desmond King, Iowa
4. Jourdan Lewis, Michigan
5. Damontae Kazee, San Diego State
Underclassmen
1. *Marlon Humphrey, Alabama
2. Teez Tabor, Florida
3. Sidney Jones, Washington
4. Gareon Conley, Ohio State
5. Howard Wilson, Houston
Adams, Abbrederis, and Janis all scream journeyman. You could replace those names with Robert Ferguson, Brett Swain, and Corey Bradford. They've all had 3 training camps and haven't produced anything of substance yet. Either start giving Abby and Janis more snaps or cut them lose.
The fact we are keeping 7 receivers is maddening - when 3 of them should be well beyond the developmental prospect stage. At least the jury is still out on Montgomery and T. Davis and we know that Cobb and Nelson are real NFL players. After 3 years, the other 3 aren't going to magically morph into the second coming or Jerry Rice.
Henry posted:5 years doesn't work in this league especially for a 2nd rounder. 2 or 3 years sure. Anything over that is a waste of a roster spot. Adams screams journeyman.
You can't find out anything in 2 years. Jordy didn't start producing heavily until year 4, Cobb year 4, Jennings year 3, Donald Driver year 4, etc. And so what if Adams is only a journeyman, it would suck not getting more than out of a 2nd rounder, but what do you pay a journeyman? Low salary with the hope that he produces beyond his contract. That's what I said, low investment. Adams is only in year 3 and is producing more than his past season, which is what he should be doing. If he doesn't show growth in year 4 then he won't get more than what I said, a low investment deal as a journeyman.
I think the look good at CB, they're just very inexperienced. Adding another high draft pick isn't going to help that. Rollins, Randall, Gunter and Hawkins is talented, they just need to develop consistency (and be healthy). Free agency would be a better place to shore up the CB group (as tey could get a guy would is ready to contribute right away).
If we're talking draft, they need speed at offensive skill positions players bad, whether it's a RB, WR or TE. Front 7 and OL is always a need too, but it'll all depend on who we keep in free agency. Either way though, first and second round picks better be RB, WR or TE, hopefully with an emphasis on speed.
Grave Digger posted:Henry posted:5 years doesn't work in this league especially for a 2nd rounder. 2 or 3 years sure. Anything over that is a waste of a roster spot. Adams screams journeyman.
You can't find out anything in 2 years. Jordy didn't start producing heavily until year 4, Cobb year 4, Jennings year 3, Donald Driver year 4, etc. And so what if Adams is only a journeyman, it would suck not getting more than out of a 2nd rounder, but what do you pay a journeyman? Low salary with the hope that he produces beyond his contract. That's what I said, low investment. Adams is only in year 3 and is producing more than his past season, which is what he should be doing. If he doesn't show growth in year 4 then he won't get more than what I said, a low investment deal as a journeyman.
It's taken 5 years for Perry. He's probably been our second best defensive player this season (behind Daniels). As annoying as it is seeing TT hold on to players too long, it's even worse seeing a guy finally "get it" on another team. What if TT let Perry walk and he was now tearing it up on the Bears or Vikings? That would be way worse than seeing Perry play through another average, injury riddled year.
Will be tough finding a top tier CB drafting 32nd.
Hungry5 posted:Will be tough finding a top tier CB drafting 32nd.
sorry this comment belongs in the positive vibe thread.
Perry was "getting it" long before this season. He just kept getting hurt so you never saw the consistency.
Adams was a **** show last season, so "showing improvement" consists of not jamming his foot up his own ass while whistling Dixie off-key. His flashes have been few and far-between.
Jordy consistently showed more flashes his first two years as the #4 receiver behind 1k+ Jennings and Driver, with Jones as the #3, and by his third year he had comparable production to both Jones and Driver in a high-powered offense.
CUPackFan posted:Grave Digger posted:Henry posted:5 years doesn't work in this league especially for a 2nd rounder. 2 or 3 years sure. Anything over that is a waste of a roster spot. Adams screams journeyman.
You can't find out anything in 2 years. Jordy didn't start producing heavily until year 4, Cobb year 4, Jennings year 3, Donald Driver year 4, etc. And so what if Adams is only a journeyman, it would suck not getting more than out of a 2nd rounder, but what do you pay a journeyman? Low salary with the hope that he produces beyond his contract. That's what I said, low investment. Adams is only in year 3 and is producing more than his past season, which is what he should be doing. If he doesn't show growth in year 4 then he won't get more than what I said, a low investment deal as a journeyman.
It's taken 5 years for Perry. He's probably been our second best defensive player this season (behind Daniels). As annoying as it is seeing TT hold on to players too long, it's even worse seeing a guy finally "get it" on another team. What if TT let Perry walk and he was now tearing it up on the Bears or Vikings? That would be way worse than seeing Perry play through another average, injury riddled year.
So you put your trust in a guy who has had part of one good season in his second attempt at a contract year as an example of how things are working? This is definitely a post for the optimists thread.
DH13 posted:Perry was "getting it" long before this season. He just kept getting hurt so you never saw the consistency.
The guy always flashed all sorts of talent, he'd just start to put it all together only to get hurt again. Biggest surprise in his current play is that he's managed to stay on the field for an extended period.
