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Rhyan was very underwhelming in TC as noted by several observers watching him this summer (Andy Herman, Matt Schneidman, etc). Which surprised many because the consensus was that this was a very good pick at the time and the other Gute warts aside, he and that FO has usually been very good at finding OL.

Still early, but ya, it looks like the Packers should just trade out of the 3rd...



@michiganjoe posted:

Larger issue is Gutey's overall draft record simply hasn't been good enough.

Yep.  What Gute and his scouts did was excel in evaluating NFL talent.  Getting the Smith bros., Amos, Campbell, etc. was the talent shot in the arm this team needed.  But he can’t do that sort of signing anymore thanks to the cap mess they are in.  

The crappy drafting didn’t hurt them immediately but they are suffering due to those mistakes now.

@packerboi posted:

Rhyan was very underwhelming in TC as noted by several observers watching him this summer (Andy Herman, Matt Schneidman, etc). Which surprised many because the consensus was that this was a very good pick at the time and the other Gute warts aside, he and that FO has usually been very good at finding OL.

Still early, but ya, it looks like the Packers should just trade out of the 3rd...



They need to treat the 3rd round like many buildings treat the 13th floor.

@fightphoe93 posted:

Yep.  What Gute and his scouts did was excel in evaluating NFL talent.  Getting the Smith bros., Amos, Campbell, etc. was the talent shot in the arm this team needed.  But he can’t do that sort of signing anymore thanks to the cap mess they are in.  

The crappy drafting didn’t hurt them immediately but they are suffering due to those mistakes now.

Crappy drafting begets one of two things:

1. Needing to sign more expensive free agents to make up for the crappy drafting.

2. A shitty team.

If Thompson takes TJ Watt, at least one of the Smith contracts wasn't needed. It also shuffles the contract years.

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