The guess is that both Kimbrel (and Keuchel for that matter) are still holding out for something like the long term contracts they both wanted in the winter. Their agents probably want to save face as well.

Keuchel has been rumored to have been offered 15 million on a one year deal but has yet to bite. 

Kimbrel originally wanted 6 years and 100 million. Keuchel was rumored to have been holding out for 5 years and about the same yearly salary. In both cases, the agent (in Keuchel's case, Scott Boras) badly miscalculated the market. 

Until June 1 if a team signed him they would have owed draft compensation.

Kimbrel and Kuechel might be options but both would need probably at least a month in the minors to get back to MLB speed and location after not doing anything since last season.

My guess is MKE doesn't make a move on either. Probably going to see if they can get some of the pen arms going, like Burnes. And with Anderson and Nelson hopefully taking spots int eh rotation that will push some others into the pen.

Plus the money.....

 

True, ATM. I'm just thinking of the playoff run, and keeping him away from our competitors in the division. Man, losing Corey hurt. That was quite a weapon, having 3 quality closers last year in Knebel, Jeffress and Hader. We sure could use that again. I think signing Kimbrel would be a major coup, but it would be an expensive venture for sure. No doubt.

He wasn't going anywhere before June 2nd. Now, there is a line out the door vying for his services. Gotta have pitching to win the whole enchilada. I wish they would just do it, but, its not my money.

Maybe they are targeting a younger arm, less expensive, for a possible move at the trade deadline...

Tschmack posted:

Nelson got shelled tonight which isn’t a good sign.

 

He had pitched decently in Triple A. I'd give him 2-3 starts to really make a determination. But, maybe it would have been better to let him throw a couple of innings in a situation like last night (the 16-0 loss) before making a start? 

I recall a lot of people being all POd when the Cubs signed Darvish.  Not to suggest Kimbrell is Darvish but I’m also not sure he’s the same lights out version either.  For a short term deal he’s probably worth looking at and who knows if the Brewers were serious or not. 

The Brewers do need to improve their bullpen.  Let’s see what they do in the next couple of months. 

 

I have to say I wouldn't have been sad if the Crew got Kimbrell (or Dallas) but I have to say it would worry me that the guy hasn't pitched in a game since the World Series. I also would be leery of a three-year deal.

I also fully expect Stearns and Mark A to be very active from now until the deadline.

Tschmack posted:

What else can you say?  Stearns will not make that kind of signing.  He just won’t.  But the guy has been good with most other moves.  Much like TT before he got senile you have to trust Stearns. 

Yeah, you're absolutely right. I do feel that he's earned his street cred just like Horst or Gutey. Stearns has done a fantastic job of acquiring talent within budget. I'm thinking Will Smith LHP SF will be one of his top targets before the trade deadline. Former Brewer who is lighting it up, and would be a great add to our bullpen. A quality reliever would really help Hader & Jeffress.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com...date-will-smith.html

Pitching wins championships. No team can win the whole enchilada without it.

All I know is this Brewers team does look "all-in" this season, and they appear to be just sitting back, very discerningly to make their "best" moves. Plenty of baseball left to play, and many trade possibilities. I read Thor is going to be available too.

They probably wanted to wait and see if Nelson/Gio/Chacin/Peralta could bring their games back before jumping on high dollar Keuchel/Kimbrel. Chase Anderson has looked to have come along nicely, and I really, really liked the Gio signing. Might need another quality starter, but they do have time to figure that out. They appear to really need another closer to help carry the load. Barnes/Burnes/Claudio/Albers have really struggled out of the pen.

Trophies posted:

Pitching wins championships. No team can win the whole enchilada without it.

All I know is this Brewers team does look "all-in" this season, and they appear to be just sitting back, very discerningly to make their "best" moves. Plenty of baseball left to play, and many trade possibilities. I read Thor is going to be available too.

They probably wanted to wait and see if Nelson/Gio/Chacin/Peralta could bring their games back before jumping on high dollar Keuchel/Kimbrel. Chase Anderson has looked to have come along nicely, and I really, really liked the Gio signing. Might need another quality starter, but they do have time to figure that out. They appear to really need another closer to help carry the load. Barnes/Burnes/Claudio/Albers have really struggled out of the pen.

Good take. I actually think the starting pitching is OK right now. Davies has been spectacular and Woodruff and Anderson have exceeded expectations as well. As long as Gio can eat up some innings they should be OK. Nelson would be gravy if he could be an average 5th guy.

The bullpen is where they need some help. Right now, if you had a must win game to get into the playoffs, who would you trust in the bullpen. The list would probably begin and end with Hader and Jeffress,  although Junior Guerra has been solid. The guy they really need is Burnes. He looked like a future all-star last year and might be the worst pitcher in the NL (at least statistically) so far this year. They need that multi-inning guy from the bullpen to keep them in games and I guess the only option this year has been Guerra. 

I agree with you Mich on Burnes. Thinking he may be better off going back down to AAA to get his groove back. He has coughed up a ton of opportunities. Also, Junior Guerra is looking like a very reliable reliever. I dig his play this year.

Music City, Brad Hand and/or Trevor Bauer would be awesome adds to our bullpen/rotation as well. Cleveland is reeling right now and could easily become sellers.

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