Starr on AR: This Man is Something Special

Yabut H-squirt sez Bart Starr is stupid.

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Then Starr was stupid.

Favre plays the game like a champ. Again, no two-a-days and big money? Who wouldn't take that?

I forgot about that.

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Starr was 9-1 in the playoffs with a 15-3 touchdown-to-interception ratio and a QB rating of 104.8 and five rings.

I wonder why he doesn't have two more? You know, for the two NFL championsip games they won before winning the World Championships?

I don't remember anyone mentioning "repeat" the last time we won a Super Bowl.

This team and this QB are driven to succeed and they are a team that has a great shot at repeating.

I fully expect the 2011 season to kick off with Green Bay vs. the Saints at Lambeau (provided we have a season that is)

I'm thinking more like Bears vs. Packers week 1 @ Lambeau and Packers vs. Bears week 17 @ Soldier Field.

Starr is the greatest post season QB there ever was. Those numbers are crazy.

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Originally posted by Boris:
I don't remember anyone mentioning "repeat" the last time we won a Super Bowl.

My main man Leroy. He predicted a 19-0 season.

My favorite part of the article. It is spot on assessment and a goal worth chasing:

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You're revered in Green Bay for not only how you play but how you carry yourself and I think Bart Starr is a prime example of that," Rodgers said last week in Dallas. "He's a great guy who I've gotten to know and, obviously, someone I'd love to model my career after."

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Originally posted by Boris:
I don't remember anyone mentioning "repeat" the last time we won a Super Bowl.

It's hard to remember exactly what the pre-season prognostications were for the '97 team. But I do remember that '97 squad looked dominant in the pre-season (i.e. Derrick Mayes with like a 15 catch game vs. the Raiders) to fuel the fire of a potential repeat. I think most Packer fans thought they had a legit. shot at repeating and they certainly came darn close.

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Originally posted by Hungry5:

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Starr was 9-1 in the playoffs with a 15-3 touchdown-to-interception ratio and a QB rating of 104.8 and five rings.

I wonder why he doesn't have two more? You know, for the two NFL championsip games they won before winning the World Championships?

I love all the attention for the team, but I hope they all don't get their haids too big.

MM needs to re-emphasize TEAM next season - that is what got us here. He needs to put a fire in everyone for a repeat.

Think about it... there has not been an NFC Team repeat as champ in 10 years?, and when is the last SB champ repeat.

Talk of Dynasty is cheap, but nobody has done it recently.

I agree though... the Green Bay Packers have the potential to get 2,or 3 more rings with AR at QB.

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Originally posted by Boris:
I don't remember anyone mentioning "repeat" the last time we won a Super Bowl.

This team and this QB are driven to succeed and they are a team that has a great shot at repeating.

I fully expect the 2011 season to kick off with Green Bay vs. the Saints at Lambeau (provided we have a season that is)

I specifically remember LeRoy Butler telling the media that he felt the team could repeat and still had a chance to be known as the team of the decade. It was a little weird for me at the time since the Cowboys had already won three SBs in the 1990s and it was already 1996. I don't have the quote, but it struck me as weird at the time so it has stuck with me.

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Think about it... there has not been an NFC Team repeat as champ in 10 years?,

Packers were the last to do it in 97.

Even after Bennett went down I thought they were still going to win it all. I think lots of people did. The Cowboys were on the serious decline, the 49ers were good not great.


LeRoy and Freeman were both talking about 19-0 before the season. That talk didn't last very long as Longwell choked in the opener against Philly.

I haven't looked it up to verify this but an even more telling stat I heard was that the last NFC team to even win a playoff game the next year following a Super Bowl victory was the Packers after Super Bowl 31.


Talk about league parity and needing some luck and proper alignment of the stars. As Boris kept saying...just shows how much you need to enjoy the journey and the victory once you get to the top because you never know when you're going to get back.

I do agree that we have a great foundation in place and we're primed to make a Pats type of run over the next few years if we can keep some key people healthy.

No team winning a playoff game following a SB win is since 1997 is pretty wild, but let's be honest, It's a short list.

The '99 Rams (lost to the Saints in the playoffs 31-28 and Warner was hurt most of the year), the Saints last year (should never have lost to Seattle), the Giants following 2007 but David Tyree never caught a pass after the helmet catch and Plaxico went and shot himself. Tampa won in 2002 but then went 7-9 so we're going to ignore them completely.

Taking this a step further, has there been any NFC team that lost a SB since 1997 you thought were primed to make a run at a possible SB return? The Bears with Rex Grossman?, Eagles and Donavan puking all over himself in the huddle?, Giants and Kerry Collins?, The Rams looked like the best option following 2001 but Warner sucked in 02 before being shown the bench for Marc Bulger, Arizona in 08 lost the SB and won a playoff game (sorry) the next year.

What's interesting is every NFC team that won a SB since 1997 had to deal with significant injuries the following year. Rams (Warner in 00 and again in 02), Giants (Burris), and the Saints (Pierre Thomas, Reggie Bush, and Brees' knee ). Let's hope the Packers can avoid injuries next year, that might stop them.....

The only injury that would completely derail the train would be Rodgers.

You get the sense with Rodgers that he's figured that out. No more head first dives, changed to the new helmet, get yards then get out of bounds. And the real upside.... he's probably getting the Brady, Manning, Brees red carpet treatment in the pocket now. And it's about time.

I also think I heard that no team, AFC or NFC, has lost the SB and then won a playoff game the next year in the last 10 SBs.

I think I've got that right but I didn't double check it.

You'd better be right, because if you're not I'm going to enjoy bitchslapping you up one side of the forum and down the other on the complete lack of logic in your arguments.

Arizona lost the SB in 2008 to the Steelers then beat Green Bay last year. But I think it's the only time it's happened.

edit - Seattle beat the Cowboys in 2006 after losing to the Steelers in 2005. The "Romo Eff's up the hold" game.

Hmmm, maybe it was just AFC teams that have lost the SB, like the Steelers.

I overheard it on NFLN on Monday night when I was not really paying attention to the TV. I don't have a fact checking super computer here at the office and my internet is 56k dial up. (cost? $0)

I shall now have to endure my beatings from JJSD.

NFL Network was wrong. I saw that same stat Monday night.

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Originally posted by The GBP Rules:

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Think about it... there has not been an NFC Team repeat as champ in 10 years?,

Packers were the last to do it in 97.

Even after Bennett went down I thought they were still going to win it all. I think lots of people did. The Cowboys were on the serious decline, the 49ers were good not great.


LeRoy and Freeman were both talking about 19-0 before the season. That talk didn't last very long as Longwell choked in the opener against Philly.

I t wasn't the opener, but yes it was a choke job, never did like that guy and was glad when he went to minnie haha

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Originally posted by The GBP Rules:
NFL Network was wrong. I saw that same stat Monday night.

AH HA!!!

Do I still have to endure the beatings?

You don't have to, but it's a character builder.

Seems as if there is a # 15 renaissaince going on, cool by me. For those that dont know he will autograph anything at anytime as long as you donate to the rawhide boys ranch.....

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Originally posted by Brak:
You don't have to, but it's a character builder.

Think the whole getting back to the Super Bowl after winning/losing thing has been a flukey thing for the past 10 years. After the Patriots lost to the Giants in 07 they went 11-5 but missed the playoffs completly, but I want to say the won their last 6 games.

Repeating has definitely been flukey. There's no doubt we have the horses and braintrust in place to make a run but there are so many unknown contributing factors in getting to the Super Bowl each year. IMO...Playing all of those 1 or done games in a row really got the team focused during the stretch. MM took that focus and kept builing confidence with it until this team really believed they were destined to win this thing. Helluva job by the staff and the veteran players who stepped up into leadership roles.

I guess past performance isn't always indicitive of future results so now is as good of time as any to break the trend anddo this again next year!

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Originally posted by ChilliJon:
Think the whole getting back to the Super Bowl after winning/losing thing has been a flukey thing for the past 10 years. After the Patriots lost to the Giants in 07 they went 11-5 but missed the playoffs completly, but I want to say the won their last 6 games.

Brady also was done, hence the Brady rule.

AR understands that how you're perceived off the field is just as important in the big picture as how you play on it and Bart's the right person to look to in that regard. He seems to have a good grasp of the history of the franchise and its importance with the fans.

Here is a fun read on NFL.com about the 23 choices and the 22 teams that made them:
Teams Must Be Kicking Themselves

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Fifteen of the 23 players selected before Rodgers are either no longer in the NFL or have moved on to another team. Wide receiver Troy Williamson, who was taken seventh overall by the Minnesota Vikings, hasn't played since 2009. And he has just four touchdown catches to his career. Can you imagine where the Vikings would be today if they picked Rodgers over Williamson? To add insult to injury, the Vikings in the same draft also took Wisconsin defensive end Erasmus James with Rodgers still on the board. Now Minnesota has to chase Rodgers for the next six to eight years.

Obviously hindsight is 20/20 and MM and AR have put in plenty of work but the framework was there for AR to become this. Of everything MM has done, the development of AR has to be his crowning achievement.

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Originally posted by ZUF:
I love all the attention for the team, but I hope they all don't get their haids too big.

MM needs to re-emphasize TEAM next season - that is what got us here. He needs to put a fire in everyone for a repeat.

Think about it... there has not been an NFC Team repeat as champ in 10 years?, and when is the last SB champ repeat.

Talk of Dynasty is cheap, but nobody has done it recently.

I agree though... the Green Bay Packers have the potential to get 2,or 3 more rings with AR at QB.

This is a special team and has grounded people in key positions all over the organization. From TT to MM to AR to Woody to DD. There are very few primadonnas (sp) and one of them will be shipped away this off season (Barnett). I see a few more rings in the near future.

Could you imagine Cutler in Oakland? What a train wreck that would have been.

AR's folks Here seems like as good a place as any.

Listening to Wilde on Homer tonight. Wilde mentioned a quote from his Dad. Not sure if this is exact, "Aaron has always been very humble, but he's also been very confident". Pretty much sums him up. Thanks to Mr. and Mrs. Rodgers for raising an amazing son!

I just re-watched XLV. I heart my DVR. In all my giddyness at the end of the game...I did not realize how many times they cut to reactions by Bart.


Speaking of Giddy. Bart looked like a proud PaPa. What a great man and perfect representative of all that is good in Packerland.