Timmy! posted:
RoyalWulff posted:  

Notable former Packers cut by other teams

DL Datone Jones (Jacksonville Jaguars)

OL Don Barclay (Denver Broncos)  

 

Ringo released by the Bengals.
Rollins released by 49ers.

They're getting slaughtered today.

Baltimore released Dirty Harry. (Obviously don't know what they're doing.)
Kofi Amichia released by Panthers.
Dorleant released by Raiders.

**EDIT**
Now Josh Hawkins released by Philly.

Might have to start a separate thread... 

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Pakrz posted:

There was a time when TT was pretty damn good... but man, he set this organization back towards the end of his tenure. 

Wasn’t too long ago that the mere mention of a TT failure would get you crucified. Reality has set in.

I’ll say β€œthere was a time TT was pretty damn GREAT!”   But, yeah, lots a fixes needed from the past couple of years....including a new HC.

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Plain naive is pretending that Gutekunst had no say in that draft. Yes, Ted should get the most blame, but it sure doesn't reflect well on the director of college scouting. And while it's still early, Gutekunst's first draft as GM isn't looking all that good right now. His second-round pick is a backup coming off a poor season. His third-round pick is hurt after an even worse season. And his fourth-round pick will likely be cut tomorrow.

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heyward posted:

Plain naive is pretending that Gutekunst had no say in that draft. Yes, Ted should get the most blame, but it sure doesn't reflect well on the director of college scouting. And while it's still early, Gutekunst's first draft as GM isn't looking all that good right now. His second-round pick is a backup coming off a poor season. His third-round pick is hurt after an even worse season. And his fourth-round pick will likely be cut tomorrow.

I agree, but the more important thing is to not keep guys around just because of where they were drafted. If you figure out a guy can't play, get rid of him. It's one thing to make a mistake, it's worse to compound it by keeping the guy around. I'd look at it as a good sign if they cut Moore if he is as bad in practice as he appears in games. No more guys hanging around like Carl Bradford, Jason Spriggs, or RichRod. 

 

MichiganPacker2 posted:
heyward posted:

Plain naive is pretending that Gutekunst had no say in that draft. Yes, Ted should get the most blame, but it sure doesn't reflect well on the director of college scouting. And while it's still early, Gutekunst's first draft as GM isn't looking all that good right now. His second-round pick is a backup coming off a poor season. His third-round pick is hurt after an even worse season. And his fourth-round pick will likely be cut tomorrow.

I agree, but the more important thing is to not keep guys around just because of where they were drafted. If you figure out a guy can't play, get rid of him. It's one thing to make a mistake, it's worse to compound it by keeping the guy around. I'd look at it as a good sign if they cut Moore if he is as bad in practice as he appears in games. No more guys hanging around like Carl Bradford, Jason Spriggs, or RichRod. 

 

MichiganPacker2 posted:
heyward posted:

Plain naive is pretending that Gutekunst had no say in that draft. Yes, Ted should get the most blame, but it sure doesn't reflect well on the director of college scouting. And while it's still early, Gutekunst's first draft as GM isn't looking all that good right now. His second-round pick is a backup coming off a poor season. His third-round pick is hurt after an even worse season. And his fourth-round pick will likely be cut tomorrow.

I agree, but the more important thing is to not keep guys around just because of where they were drafted. If you figure out a guy can't play, get rid of him. It's one thing to make a mistake, it's worse to compound it by keeping the guy around. I'd look at it as a good sign if they cut Moore if he is as bad in practice as he appears in games. No more guys hanging around like Carl Bradford, Jason Spriggs, or RichRod. 

 

I concur

YATittle posted:
Henry posted:

Autocrat?  WTF?  He was the GM of a football organization.

Yes, but my point is blaming ANYONE other than TT, who told everyone he had final word on draft choices, is just plain dumb.

That's complete bullshit.  You're calling TT an autocrat.  You're saying Schneider, Dorsey, McKenzie, Wolf and Gertwurst were just a bunch of yes men?  Of course he had the final word, he was the GM but you think he didn't listen to input?  You think Gunnysack was telling him Kevin King was a POS and Watt was the only choice that could be made?

If anything TT was a bit soft and too empathetic. 

Jesus ****.

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The longer anyone is GM it’s got to get tougher to see things with clean vision. 

The Draft is a crapshoot. I don’t think anyone here disputes it. Historical data says you miss far more than you hit. No matter how good you are. 

The longer you are GM the more likely you are to chase after mistakes. And then chase after those mistakes. Be it the draft or FA signings. It’s human nature. 

Being told what you did wrong stays with you longer than being told what you did right. Same reason why football fans remember crushing losses better than the huge wins. 

Henry posted:
YATittle posted:
Henry posted:

Autocrat?  WTF?  He was the GM of a football organization.

Yes, but my point is blaming ANYONE other than TT, who told everyone he had final word on draft choices, is just plain dumb.

That's complete bullshit.  You're calling TT an autocrat.  You're saying Schneider, Dorsey, McKenzie, Wolf and Gertwurst were just a bunch of yes men?  Of course he had the final word, he was the GM but you think he didn't listen to input?  You think Gunnysack was telling him Kevin King was a POS and Watt was the only choice that could be made?

If anything TT was a bit soft and too empathetic. 

Jesus ****.

Yes men? No, but I recall TT in a press conference saying he had the final call. Pretty emphatic about that.