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Trophies posted:

Yeah, has to be. GD is on his game.

The only trouble I have with his 53 is Yosh Nijman will never stick on our PS. Someone will snap him in a heartbeat, and he destroyed Clelin Ferrell, Wilkins and Lawrence from Clemson, and stoned Zach Allen. Great player at Virginia Tech. He must stay on this 53 or he is gone. Too valuable to not keep, with insane athleticism, and he plays both LT and RT. 6-7 340... Fell just short of "elite" category in SPARQ and RAS. Many scouts had him as the highest performer overall in his class at the Combine.

Why wasn't he drafted? 

Hey FLPacker, he had metal rods inserted into his legs after they fractured when he was younger and grew faster than his body could support. I’ll guarantee that was it. 

Did not stop him from playing very well. Gave up just 1 sack and 12 pressures in 2018, over something like 380 snaps. Didn’t stop him from owning the combine. Didn’t stop him from owning Brian Burns either. He played against some top talents at Virginia Tech in ACC. 

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Pistol GB posted:

Grave Digger:

You left out Kumerow.

I am not convinced he's a lock. I could see him being unseated by this Teo Redding or even this speedster Jawill Davis. J'Mon Moore could be in the mix also, but this offense seems to covet speed and Moore is not a burner. I think the low guys on the depth chart will need to have a niche...like Trevor Davis' return ability and speed. Kumerow is a well rounded player, but he's not great at anything. Moore has some intriguing qualities, but we've seen nothing that makes him special. 

As for Nijman, it's hard to say right now what would happen if he was sent to the PS. He's a guy I could see making it to the final cut down because of that athleticism, but there's a reason he was a UDFA and it's beyond just injury. He could be a guy that gets stashed, but the way practice is structured now (less full contact, more indy) you don't really find out what you have in OTs until the preseason. 

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GD, I just see him gone as quickly as NO snapped Taysom Hill 2 years ago. Monster mistake by Ted. Plus, you can't teach that kind of size/speed. The rook is NFL ready now, for but some work on his hands and feet. He's agile enough. We need a monster backup LT/RT. I would keep him at all costs from the PS. Might as well not even be on the team then....

I understand overvaluing your own, but, this guy was a steal in UDFA.

No one was willing to risk a $75K signing bonus to get Nijman in the 7th round. The lack of a publicly substantive downgrade and yet complete avoidance by the many teams in need of merely adequate tackles suggest there was a medical flag on Nijman raised by the combine physical. Something chronic or developing and litigable if released to the public.

Trophies posted:

Hey FLPacker, he had metal rods inserted into his legs after they fractured when he was younger and grew faster than his body could support. I’ll guarantee that was it. 

Did not stop him from playing very well. Gave up just 1 sack and 12 pressures in 2018, over something like 380 snaps. Didn’t stop him from owning the combine. Didn’t stop him from owning Brian Burns either. He played against some top talents at Virginia Tech in ACC. 

Has to be more than that.... ACC coaches and beat writers did not even name him as honorable mention all-conference. They had at least 11 tackles ahead of him. Here is NFL.com report on him:     https://www.nfl.com/prospects/...86-5ad3-455d5d7e45d9

Grave Digger posted:
Pistol GB posted:

Grave Digger:

You left out Kumerow.

I am not convinced he's a lock. I could see him being unseated by this Teo Redding or even this speedster Jawill Davis. J'Mon Moore could be in the mix also, but this offense seems to covet speed and Moore is not a burner. I think the low guys on the depth chart will need to have a niche...like Trevor Davis' return ability and speed. Kumerow is a well rounded player, but he's not great at anything. Moore has some intriguing qualities, but we've seen nothing that makes him special. 

Decent points but the thread says "prediction."  Pick one hey!  Who's your #6?

The "niche" thing is fine, but they need to be NFL-ready first, right?  Redding and Davis to me look like PS candidates. Kume's ready now and plenty fast.

PackerHawk posted:

I think Kumerow is far from a lock. So far he's a really nice story. He will need a really strong TC and show up in preseason to make the team. Lots of competition there. 

Agreed- I'm not sure Kumerow makes the team, especially if J'mon starts catching the ball. I like to hear the good news per the link above about Oren Burks. I still remember many had him as a 6th round talent and it seemed like a huge reach to take him in the 3rd round. Hopefully a year in the system makes a big difference for him.

Yeah I'm not criticizing the choice of Kumerow, he could make it. Hard to say how anyone will adjust to a new scheme, we're still in camps and everyone looks good in shorts. Right now if I had to guess at the #5 would be Moore and the #6 would be Trevor Davis. Trevor, Kumerow, Redding, and J. Davis are competing for 1 spot IMO. Davis and Kumerow got stashed on IR in 2018 because they had a top 6 with Adams, Cobb, Allison, and the rooks. Cobb is out of the picture now opening the door for 1 of those guys to make it. In my mind Trevor Davis has an edge because of his speed and return experience. The scheme wants speed and there's no other clear returner on the roster. 

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Yosh has size, speed, pedigree to become a very solid LT or RT. His record speaks for itself. I do think the only reason why he was not drafted were those two metal rods in his legs, and that his technique is considered "stiff." It has not adversely affected his play at all. He just needs coaching like any rookie.

Pretty rare you get a OT that size with good feet. Add to it, our overall OT depth is highly suspect without a guy that size who could jump right in, 6-7 324, 34" arms, 10" hands... 4.81 40 time...

He was on a bad VT team, and he blocked out of a 2 pt. stance. Yosh said he can't wait to power up into his blocks from a 3 pt. stance.

AFC scout said: β€œI am shocked he didn’t get drafted. He’s 6-7, probably 320, ran like 4.8 flat. Kind of new to the game. His family is from Suriname in South America. He’s just a raw ball of clay. Ideal practice-squad guy, probably at worst. Great free-agent signing.”

Dude started at LT and RT for 1844 snaps over 3 years, with similar results to his Senior year's 1 sack, 1 hit, 10 hurries in 639 snaps (334 pass blocking sets), ahead of both Greg Little and Tytus Howard.

https://www.bigblueinteractive...w-offensive-tackles/

Posted "elite" RAS measurements earning a #16 overall in a RAS mock:  https://www.prideofdetroit.com...ck-draft-ras-edition

Nijman simply has gifts, and his technique must be developed further. I'd rather the Packers developed him to fit their needs. Fits an athletic standard that Gutey seems to hold dear to. We will see. Maybe he could become a starter at RT next season? Would hate to just give that away, like we did with another super athletic Tatum Hill.

How many years have we kept Spriggs around? I'd rather give Nijman a shot.

Kumero's biggest knock right now is his age.  Not in a big picture sense but this team has a lot of young talent at WR that it is trying to cultivate and I don't know that a guy with probably only 3 top years left is a great candidate for being a first year starter or even contributor.  If he had been in the offense for years and had a record of success and experience that would be valuable, that would be another story.  The only way he can make the roster is if he develops a unique chemistry with AR that proves more valuable.  That will entail balling out in TC and PS via said chemistry.

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