#Packers DL Mike Daniels (hip) is a game-time decision tonight. He’s close to playing but will need to test it out pregame before deciding.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) September 28, 2017
Brainwashed Boris posted:Could see a Bears 61-7 beat down too.
But we won't.
I sat in Soldier Field and watched that massacre. Still scarred...
Bak and Daniels would both likely play if this game was being played on Sunday. Have I mentioned I hate Thursday night football?
I hope Daniels just stays on the sideline. Take an extra 10 days to heal. It makes a huge difference later in the year too
I'd rather Daniels sit and be 100% for game #5 - at DAL.
antiworst posted:Brainwashed Boris posted:Could see a Bears 61-7 beat down too.
But we won't.
I sat in Soldier Field and watched that massacre. Still scarred...
One of the few things left for me as a Packers fan that I want to see before I die is for the Packers to return that favor to the Bears.
Sadly at the time my only thought was maybe they will finally fire Bart after that game. But they didn't for three more years. Bart is a great man and I admire him greatly but as a coach? ehhhh
My guess is Chicago will rush 4 all night. Cover with 7. Play 2 deep over. Keep everything in front of them. Force Rodgers to the singular thing he loathes, throw underneath. And hope Rodgers gets impatient and greedy looking for big plays so their DEs can lay waste to Pankey and McCray.
Packers have to run the ball tonight against 2 deep safeties. Rodgers can't go "hero play extension" ball tonight. Otherwise we might see a replay of the Bears game at Lambeau in 2013 when Shea McClellin shook off a weak block attempt by replacement RT Barclay and broke Rodgers clavicle. Balls gotta get out quick and Rodgers HAS to take what the Bears hand him.
Agreed that Daniels should sit tonight if he's a game time decision right now. Long season.
The Heckler posted:antiworst posted:Brainwashed Boris posted:Could see a Bears 61-7 beat down too.
But we won't.
I sat in Soldier Field and watched that massacre. Still scarred...
One of the few things left for me as a Packers fan that I want to see before I die is for the Packers to return that favor to the Bears.
Sadly at the time my only thought was maybe they will finally fire Bart after that game. But they didn't for three more years. Bart is a great man and I admire him greatly but as a coach? ehhhh
I'd argue that this game is pretty damn close to returning the favor. Up 42-0 at half? 45-0 4 minutes in to 2nd half after which they pulled Rodgers and threw only 4 more passes the rest of the night?
On a National broadcast Sunday night game?
They keep Rodgers in that game, they drop 60+ on them easily. Mind you, I was kinda frustrated they didn't do that, but, I kinda think it was almost more embarrassing to have 55 dropped on you and the opposing QB played 4 minutes of the 2nd half...
Agreed CAPF95, that's damn close. But I'd still love to see a 60+ pt bitch-slapping.
Bright side is, if no one gets murdered (Chicago and all), somewhat of a mini bye.
Didn't Rodgers throw 6 TDs in the first half of that game? He plays 60 minutes and GB probably drops 80 plus on Chicago.
Lacy going for 60 yards on a screen pass as Bears defense just completely quit trying.
That game was a complete massacre.
Someone asked...
If Nick Perry plays Thursday, it'll be the 21st time in 70 games he's worn a club on his hand.
Green Bay City Stadium - dedicated Sep. 29, 1957
So tonight is 1 day shy of 60 years.
ChilliJon posted:Didn't Rodgers throw 6 TDs in the first half of that game? He plays 60 minutes and GB probably drops 80 plus on Chicago.
Lacy going for 60 yards on a screen pass as Bears defense just completely quit trying.
That game was a complete massacre.
YUUUUUP. Jordy coming out of the backfield and blowing by everyone for the final block on that screen.
Watch and enjoy all 6 TDs. The throw AR makes on TD 4 to Jordy still absolutely blows me away. Rolling right and throws it perfectly.
I understand why he did it, but I will always be a little pissed off MM called off the dogs... I wanted 62+ pts dropped on them. I wanted AR to get the NFL record of 8 TDs in a game.
ChilliJon posted:My guess is Chicago will rush 4 all night. Cover with 7. Play 2 deep over. Keep everything in front of them. Force Rodgers to the singular thing he loathes, throw underneath. And hope Rodgers gets impatient and greedy looking for big plays so their DEs can lay waste to Pankey and McCray.
Packers have to run the ball tonight against 2 deep safeties. Rodgers can't go "hero play extension" ball tonight. Otherwise we might see a replay of the Bears game at Lambeau in 2013 when Shea McClellin shook off a weak block attempt by replacement RT Barclay and broke Rodgers clavicle. Balls gotta get out quick and Rodgers HAS to take what the Bears hand him.
It will be interesting to see how the Bears play this. If they assume that Bak can't go, then why wouldn't you play 8 in the box and go with press coverage. Don't allow anything short and make the Packers risk running more deep routes and see how the tackles hold up.
If I'm the Bears, I also try a lot of DL stunts to see how well the Packers OL communicates.
They don't need 8 in the box to stop our run game, 6 or 7 will do it. 2 deep safeties & "plaster" everything short....it is how everyone is playing us.
bvan posted:Time to finally take the lead in the rivalry. 93-93
THIS!!!
I never dreamed the Packers would even the all time. Gotta do it tonight!
Chicago will rush 4 and cover. Press man. Two deep. They will try and get Rodgers to get impatient. It a good plan against Rodgers. He can't stand doing the check down stuff for 60 minutes.
Akiem Hicks was just added to Bears injury list (foot). He's likely going to play but Nicks with a bad wheel is welcome news.
And tonight would be a great time for Green Bay to log their first three interceptions on the year.
Hungry5 posted:Someone asked...
If Nick Perry plays Thursday, it'll be the 21st time in 70 games he's worn a club on his hand.
This should be an easy one for Nick.
antiworst posted:Brainwashed Boris posted:Could see a Bears 61-7 beat down too.
But we won't.
I sat in Soldier Field and watched that massacre. Still scarred...
.....your PTSD is trigggerd in game threads...wait, did I just use the word "trigger"?
bears are without D starters S Q. Demps and likely ILB N. Kwiatoski
Blair Kiel posted:antiworst posted:Brainwashed Boris posted:Could see a Bears 61-7 beat down too.
But we won't.
I sat in Soldier Field and watched that massacre. Still scarred...
.....your PTSD is trigggerd in game threads...wait, did I just use the word "trigger"?
No, you distinctly said triggerd, which may or may not be some kind of acid reflux.
ammo posted:I hope they run a few more screen plays to slow down the pass rush. Also some jet sweeps and maybe even throw in a reverse or 2.
I doubt we're going to see to much of either. Both plays require a practice and timing that this patchwork offensive line just does not have. Secondly, screens work best best when the defense has to rush more than 4. Just going back to the Cincy game, they were all over Rodgers and almost exclusively only brought 4. We tried a couple of screens and they went no where. Easily defended.
This isn't necessarily directed at Ammo, but fans in general. Before we start spouting off about screens, reverses, swing passes..... focus on their defensive line. If they are only bringing 4 and getting home, screens, reverses,... aren't going to be very productive or do much to stop the rush.
who backs up our two tackles tonight if one or both goes down? Rodgers better not be using too many hard counts to get the defense to jump. His new guys are probably jumpy enough already.
KonKrete posted:ammo posted:I hope they run a few more screen plays to slow down the pass rush. Also some jet sweeps and maybe even throw in a reverse or 2.
This isn't necessarily directed at Ammo, but fans in general. Before we start spouting off about screens, reverses, swing passes..... focus on their defensive line. If they are only bringing 4 and getting home, screens, reverses,... aren't going to be very productive or do much to stop the rush.
Um.....the entire concept of a well executed screen is for the OL to chip and allow DL penetration then release to next level blocks. If the Bears are playing press man two deep and corners are turning and running with recievers a screen has a better chance of working.
Now. Do Pankey and McCray understand where their next level block responsibilities are? Not very likely. I still see GB trying a screen or two tonight to test the water. But not too much. That's a lot to put on the plate of two T that don't have a lot of experience.
Have to assume the playbook will be pretty short tonight. This game is 100% in Rodgers lap. He's going to have to be really good.
Blair Kiel posted:.....your PTSD is trigggerd in game threads...wait, did I just use the word "trigger"?
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Should have left them for Trump at the will call window.
ChilliJon posted:KonKrete posted:ammo posted:I hope they run a few more screen plays to slow down the pass rush. Also some jet sweeps and maybe even throw in a reverse or 2.
This isn't necessarily directed at Ammo, but fans in general. Before we start spouting off about screens, reverses, swing passes..... focus on their defensive line. If they are only bringing 4 and getting home, screens, reverses,... aren't going to be very productive or do much to stop the rush.
Um.....the entire concept of a well executed screen is for the OL to chip and allow DL penetration then release to next level blocks. If the Bears are playing press man two deep and corners are turning and running with recievers a screen has a better chance of working.
Now. Do Pankey and McCray understand where their next level block responsibilities are? Not very likely. I still see GB trying a screen or two tonight to test the water. But not too much. That's a lot to put on the plate of two T that don't have a lot of experience.
Have to assume the playbook will be pretty short tonight. This game is 100% in Rodgers lap. He's going to have to be really good.
I think we're arguing the exact same thing...."allow D-line penetration". The more linemen coming the better, that's why screens work best when you catch them in a blitz. It's tougher to run a screen when 3 and 4 men are able to get pressure on the QB.
And we both agree to the difficulties with trying to run it with new linemen knowing their responsibilities.
Except it's not tougher to run a screen if 3-4 guys penetrate. Execute it right and you potentially have 9 guys blocking 7.
Even if it doesn't work. Run a few screens early and it slows down the front 4 screaming to the QB. I think this was Ammo's original point.
Hey this ain't a Broncos game!
If GB comes out with a screen, a run, and Rodgers whistling a deep fly route out of bounds and the Packers go three and out on their opening series I think they have to show Chicago the entire playbook is in play. Even if it really isn't.
I will predict Bennett sniffs 10 receptions tonight. Provided he catches them.
Bennett only had 1 drop v CIN
Had a much rougher game v ATL
ChilliJon posted:Except it's not tougher to run a screen if 3-4 guys penetrate. Execute it right and you potentially have 9 guys blocking 7.
Even if it doesn't work. Run a few screens early and it slows down the front 4 screaming to the QB. I think this was Ammo's original point.
9 guys blocking 7. That sounds great Ya know what's even better? 9 guys blocking 6. Catching them in a blitz. Catching them being aggressive. Coach McCarthy has even talked about this. It factors into his decision of when to run them. And yes, you are correct, coverage schemes matter to. If they're running man and corners turn their back to the L O S, it helps.
Yes Konkrete, thats how you get the homerun but it's also how you get the disaster.
Chili is saying a screen is good play when you're suffering in pass pro at the tackle spots no matter the D call because it, in theory, will cause those D ends to have to slow a step and watch for it. So if it gains 3 yards, it still has lasting impact on the game above and beyond those 3 yards. In other words, it doesn't have to be a home run game changing play for it to be successful and useful.
Interesting stat. Rodgers has been blitzed more times in the first three weeks of 17 than at any point over the past 7 years. Only three QBs have been blitzed more. Boyer, Wentz, and Ryan.
Obvious thinking here is emiminating Rodgers extending plays with receivers that can't beat press coverage.
On one hand. It's not surprising. On the other hand. It's not sustainable. If teams blitz Rodgers into changing his MO it's going to work in favor of Rodgers.
In the words of Lieutenant Keefer. I'm too smart to be brave.
BrainDed posted:Yes Konkrete, thats how you get the homerun but it's also how you get the disaster.
Chili is saying a screen is good play when you're suffering in pass pro at the tackle spots no matter the D call because it, in theory, will cause those D ends to have to slow a step and watch for it. So if it gains 3 yards, it still has lasting impact on the game above and beyond those 3 yards. In other words, it doesn't have to be a home run game changing play for it to be successful and useful.
Ammo said it. Not me.