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he is awesome, come on - you know i think about the candor of the interviews with macaffee, can't help but think there's got to be some P.O. factor with the local gb reporters that they can't get into AR like Pat can.  Dude gave a 25min interview, I don't think I've seen that before AR Tuesday's on that show...I like just getting to know AR in a shoot the shit kind of way.

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@PackerHawk posted:

Favre only played one more season under Holmgren than he did under Sugar Bear. Throw in that Rhodes year and he's 50% Holmgren before you get to his two years with MM.

It was obvious that Favre was physically talented as soon as you saw him play, but he didn't begin to get the mental part of it until the end of 1995. It was that Chicago game that year where he seemed to make the leap. In the last 6 regular season games of that year, the Packers were 5-1 and Favre threw 21 TDs against 2 interceptions. If you include the next two years (the Super Bowl years), the Packers had a stretch where they were 31-7 in regular season games and Favre threw 95 TDs against 31 TDs. The rest of his career, Favre had a 413/305 ratio. The Packers pissed away 3 years in Favre's prime (1998-2000) when Holmgren was barely engaged on his way to Seattle (1998), Ray Rhodes was head coach (1999), and Sherman was cleaning up Rhodes mess (2000). Favre threw 83 TDs and 62 interceptions in those 3 years. He was never really the same after Holmgren left. He was one of the top 5 QBs I've ever watched from 1995-1997 and was essentially a slightly better version of Jay Culter the remainder of his career - a physically talented guy who could make all the throws but who even in his good seasons would lose games for you with boneheaded decisions.

Favre with that 1995-1997 stretch removed. 413 TDs/305 Int. 1.35 ratio

Culter career. 227 TDs/160 Int. 1.41 ratio.