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Mason Crosby (or anyone else) kicking off short of the end zone so our worthless Special Teams unit can allow the opposition a short field.

Worthless special teams.

Kevin King.

Ty Summers getting snaps on D.

Equanimious St. Brown.

Shawn Mennenga & Mike Pettine on the GB sideline - like Dom they are more than welcome to come back to Lambeau as coaches for another team.

Anything else?

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I hope not to see this defense without a killer instinct.  Would be nice to have an aggressive defense that can stop the other team instead of relying on hope that eventually the other team will make a mistake.

@NumberThree posted:

Quarterbacks who throw 3 or more INTs in the NFCC against Rodgers are 2-0. So that's a stat.

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In the last 20 postseasons, there have been 13 instances of a player throwing three interceptions in a postseason half (including Brady today). The only player whose team won was Russell Wilson in the 2014 NFC title vs the Packers.
@NumberThree posted:

Unfortunately because of the Packers cap issues and draft choices, the future looks nothing like the last 2 years.

They are toast in terms of being an elite team after this year. That's why they drafted for the future. They just didn't expect Rodgers to turn the clock back. They look really stupid right now.

@Goalline posted:

Gute has a good eye for talent. Looking forward to his off-season.

So he can draft another bunch of guys that won't play for 2 years? This year's draft was inexcusable given their situation.

Jordan Love has to be an All-Pro QB at this point to make that draft worthwhile.

@Goalline posted:

Gute has a good eye for talent. Looking forward to his off-season.

Also, he gets credit for drafting Jaire Alexander and Elgton Jenkins, but other than those 2, the stars on this team were drafted by TT.

they lack the playmaker in the middle, I am telling you, said it with Queen last year, that dog in the middle is not there.  their draft will likely change - games like this expose a lot of warts, i am at least happy they didn't poop themselves in the superbowel.  could take OL, cb, de/olb...all valid reasons.  and a punter who can kick out of the ez.  defense needs some dog in it...not dog enough...pushover team...sf did it last year, tb did it this year...next year, rinse repeat...but i really thought this year was different...

Also, he gets credit for drafting Jaire Alexander and Elgton Jenkins, but other than those 2, the stars on this team were drafted by TT.

gary is def not a bust, barnes, 49, dillon is good, he's not been bad, just not all homeruns, I mean, 23 and jenkins are going to be dam good for a long time.  the guy is always looking for talent...he's signing guys up until this week.  problem is not with gutey yet...today, its square on pettine, menninga, mlf...100%

Pettine is gone and don't let the door hit you on the way out. The non-chemistry between MLF and Pettine on the sideline tells it all. MLF is done with him. Menninga will also be gone. MLF will learn from that coaching decision. You could see Brady just give a big breath out when MLF made the decision to kick the FG. Brady knew he could lock the game right then. Who was MLF listening to? Pettine saying he could stop them? If so, that's how guys lose jobs! Dumbest decision ever.

But I'm still more pissed that Rodgers didn't run it in. For him, that's an easy TD.

@Goalline posted:

You are just being negative.

Elite QB, elite LT, elite pass rusher and elite CB. What am I missing?

Bakh probably won’t be back until best case mid season. We had best address a plan...IF Turner is who we roll at LT, we had best find someone better than Wanger at RT.

@Chongo posted:

Bakh probably won’t be back until best case mid season. We had best address a plan...IF Turner is who we roll at LT, we had best find someone better than Wanger at RT.

Crazy thing is that Wagner looked much better vs. Mack & everyone else he's played against than he did today.

It's time to let MLF hire his own coaches. If I'm not mistaken, Murphy made him keep Pettine and wouldn't let him spend to get a better ST coach. Well, MLF has proven that he can win. Murphy needs to let him choose his own guys.

@Chongo posted:

Bakh probably won’t be back until best case mid season. We had best address a plan...IF Turner is who we roll at LT, we had best find someone better than Wanger at RT.

It is clear we can win games with Turner at LT.

So he can draft another bunch of guys that won't play for 2 years? This year's draft was inexcusable given their situation.

Jordan Love has to be an All-Pro QB at this point to make that draft worthwhile.

Jordon Love lead a terrible college football conference no-one follows or cares about in interceptions (17 in 13 games) and pick-6s his last year there. A majority of them you would swear the defensive player was a receiver because he's that fucking bad. Nobody wanted him in the first round, and no one was going to move up to get him in any other round. I wouldn't be surprised if he was a third or fourth rounder had the Packers actually cared about the draft last year.

Jordon Love is not the future of the franchise, and will likely be the reason more people are forced out of it entirely. At most he'll let the defense get used to being on the field for 80% of the game, which might allow the coaches to finally figure out how to put together a defense.

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@Phil posted:

I hope not to see this defense without a killer instinct.  Would be nice to have an aggressive defense that can stop the other team instead of relying on hope that eventually the other team will make a mistake.

Yeah like what the chiefs are doing. Lose with aggression is better than losing with passivity

@YATittle posted:

Yeah like what the chiefs are doing. Lose with aggression is better than losing with passivity

Always like your posting YA and this is exactly how I feel.

Under Dom we always played D not to lose and in year 1 of Pettine (even though the team sucked while MM was in his death throes) I was really impressed by his creative use of blitzes and schemes to free up pass rushers and pressure the opposition.

Then last season, I was happy with the pass rush and chalked up the majority of the putrid run D to Pettine being forced to play guys like Lancaster, Lowry, Adams, Martinez, BJ Goodson, etc.

This season, however, confirmed that Pettine, like post-2010 Capers is not the man for the job.

Enough of the soft, vanilla, passive stuff on D in Green Bay -- that approach has proven to NOT succeed in the playoffs.

We need an aggressive defensive signal caller -- and another athletic Inside Linebacker to pair with your boy Khrys Barnes.

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