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@Chongo posted:

NFL will happen. Too much money at stake. Players will have the option to opt out, but likely, they will also be opting out of a paycheck in that case.

Soccer around the world is playing in front of empty stadiums without a surge in outbreaks. But then again, those Europeans like them some masks.

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@mrtundra posted:

Deaths are down because the virus is not hitting elderly people, now, as much as it is hitting younger people, who are stronger against the virus, but not so smart as to stay out of bars or to wear masks and maintain social distancing. 

Yep. Our ICU numbers are way down. It's been in the single digits to low teens for about a month now (and Ped inpatients have been mostly at 0) but employee infections have tripled during the same time. When things started to open up, the younger people less at risk were the first to jump into the infection pool. Older and vulnerable people (and smart people in general) remained cautious for good reason. 

The thing is we don't need 100% of the population wearing masks and following social distancing. 80% would be fine. 50% doesn't cut it. 

It's the fault of any fuck not wearing a mask or social distancing, which is predominately conservatives.  So the easy answer is yes.  Pretty easy rebuttal.  Would you like to see the numbers of countries who feel a responsibility to their society and others compared to assholes driving up infection and death rates here?

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Agree on the mask-wearing!  and Social Distancing, and hand-washing, too!

But, I don't have the actual numbers here in California on who does or doesn't wear a mask.  I didn't know there was a valid/reliable survey out there on mask-wearing.  I also didn't know there was data out there that quantified Democrats vs. Conservatives on mask-wearing.   However, I have read information about how the Coronavirus has made into a political issue.   I think that is why there is distrust among the American people.  I think the CDC and other Health Organizations since March have really confused the American public on this issue.  

I also don't think you can compare the great USA with other countries.  Apples/Oranges.

I think the CDC and other Health Organizations since March have really confused the American public on this issue.  

How so? The CDC, NIH, NIAID, and other health organizations have consistently shared the latest information based in facts and science. If you, or "the American public", are confused on the issue I'm guessing you/they aren't listening to these health orgs, or don't understand the information shared.

I also don't think you can compare the great USA with other countries.  Apples/Oranges.

Go ahead and explain that because it's the goofiest god damn thing I've ever heard. 

Are Americans somehow not prone to a virus?  Are they incapable to taking responsible actions just like most other countries in the world?  Maybe Americans will scare away the virus with just how darn independent they think they are. 

Please, insert foot into mouth.

Let me use an example I used before.  Florida has a population of 21 million people and just broke a record of 15,000 cases in one day.  Tokyo, just the city of Tokyo, has 14 million people.  They were concerned because for 3 days in a row there were 200 cases per day.  Today it was 118 and EVERYBODY immediately started taking precautions to guard against a spike. 

Now the entire fucking geographic area of Florida compared to a dense city like Tokyo, which you would absolutely expect to have higher infection rates like New York, has approximately 1500% fewer cases in one day?  Check my math because I did none, the number is bigly absurd.

So in a way you're right.  The Japanese and almost every other culture on the face of the earth aren't a bunch of spoiled fucking idiots who think someone else's well being is beneath their "liberty" of having to wear a piece of fucking fabric over their face when they go shopping.

Here's another example.  Okinawa has had a TOTAL of 150 cases during this pandemic.  The American base on Okinawa just reported 61 cases in one day.  The Japanese can't believe what a bunch of fucks we are. 

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@Hungry5 posted:

The great USA? When comparing this countries response to COVID, and to put it mildly, we f**ked the pooch hard. 

WE are not the same as other countries.  Never was.  Never will be.  It's just the way it is.  Not saying it is right or proper.  It's just the way it is....and will always be.

There are plenty of stupid people on both sides of the aisle during this Pandemic.  However, I do believe if people didn't politicize this in the first place, we would be much better off now.  Unfortunately, everything we do now, everything we say, EVERYTHING....will now and forever be politicized.

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There are plenty of stupid people on both sides of the aisle during this Pandemic.  However, I do believe if people didn't politicize this in the first place, we would be much better off now.  Unfortunately, everything we do now, everything we say, EVERYTHING....will now and forever be politicized.

It became politicized when the douchenozzle in chief decided if he ignored it it would just disappear, magically, when it gets warmer, we're at 15 and soon we'll be down to 0. It became further politicized when GOP leaders decided that the economy was more important than a quarter-of-a-million American lives.

Agree on the mask-wearing!  and Social Distancing, and hand-washing, too!

But, I don't have the actual numbers here in California on who does or doesn't wear a mask.  I didn't know there was a valid/reliable survey out there on mask-wearing.  I also didn't know there was data out there that quantified Democrats vs. Conservatives on mask-wearing.   However, I have read information about how the Coronavirus has made into a political issue.   I think that is why there is distrust among the American people.  I think the CDC and other Health Organizations since March have really confused the American public on this issue.  

I also don't think you can compare the great USA with other countries.  Apples/Oranges.

Fact: I've been in both conservative and liberal areas of CA lately. For some reason, lots of masks in liberal areas. Where I live (which is right of Texas) people walking into Target are offered masks by the security guard and some take it, toss it on the ground and stomp on it.

Politicizing masks is just ignorant. But some are doing it.

WE are not the same as other countries.  Never was.  Never will be.  It's just the way it is.  Not saying it is right or proper.  It's just the way it is....and will always be.

There are plenty of stupid people on both sides of the aisle during this Pandemic.  However, I do believe if people didn't politicize this in the first place, we would be much better off now.  Unfortunately, everything we do now, everything we say, EVERYTHING....will now and forever be politicized.

Jesus fucking christ on a crutch.  Who made it political exactly?  Why just today I was reading an article and I get one of these google injected ads from "Americans 4 Liberty" telling me to help stop the tyranny of forced mask wearing. 

Hoax.  It'll go away.  Sniffles.  Conspiracy. 

Maybe we should start up those weekly PMs you ran away from.

Hey Y.A. :

Kern County is great, huh?  Do the pick-up trucks still have gun racks?

I even know some Democrats that won't wear masks in some situations!   Some get it.  Some don't.  But hey, they even shamed the president into wearing one last weekend.  Baby Steps.

The most discouraging thing is we could beat this if we hit 80%, not 100%, and prevent further economic damage. But all these folks were I live scoff and say, "Masks don't work." and "Fauci at first told us not to use them"--when he was worried about PPE suppliers for First Responders.