Thanks for the explanation. I am glad you are a people person. 
I am not sure I would move up either. Players have a way of "falling" into TT's lap. I am sure he will use the precious #29th pick to take the desperately needed long snapper that might just happen to "still" be available.
El-Typhoon-Bong posted:Diggr does not require foreign substances to produce his rich, hot takes
Just substances that are home grown then?
I can't envision any scenario GB trades up in the first round. Maybe if Reddick or Fournette fall far enough? Even then there is too much depth 25-40 to give away assets to move up a few spots.
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I can't see them trading up either. Diggr is probably right (ugh that felt gross to say) that Watt won't be available, his athleticism alone will get him drafted high. Same thing with guys like Charles Harris, Charlton, Barnett, Thomas, Garrett, McKinley, etc. Big athletic pass rushers don't last long regardless of what draft sites say. Same thing with tall/fast CBs, big athletic LT's, etc., the high end athletes with prototypical size are the ones who get snapped up early.
The earliest Watt is going is 21 to Detroit. And that depends on who's still on the board. Next up is 28 to Dallas. That's really the spot Watt is being projected to land. I still don't see Ted giving away assets to move up. I'm holding out hope Marlon Humphrey drops to 29. Tim Williams or Tarell Basham at the end of round 2? Yes please.
I could see him going as high as 9 to Cincy. I'd say he's in play at 11 (NO), 15 (IND), and 16 (BAL) also.
Subtle.
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Pass rushers who could play the 3-4 OLB spot and might garner a first-round grade:
Myles Garrett
Solomon Thomas
Taco Charlton
Derek Barnett
Charles Harris
TJ Watt
Tak McKinley
Tim Williams
Ryan Anderson
Jordan Willis
Tyus Bowser
You could make an argument that Harris and Watt are competing for the #5 spot on the list, though Garrett, Thomas and Charlton are full-on DL capable also. Still, that's 11 potential first-round-graded pass rushers with Pittsburgh and New Orleans drafting behind Green Bay. There are also the Illinois guys, Carl Lawson, etc. who are all high-round-worthy also so teams could be tempted to wait until the second for either a corner or a pass rusher if they also need a more scarce position.
Herschel posted:...also so teams could be tempted to wait until the second for either a corner or a pass rusher if they also need a more scarce position.
I think occasionally this happens, but everyone needs a pass rusher every year. Very rarely is a team so stocked with pass rushers that they could pass on elite talent like Harris or Watt.
What about the vikings?
True, but there are also a couple of potential superstar safeties available, for example, to look at early in the first.
Rueben Foster, Hassan Reddick, Jarrad Davis, Zach Cunningham. All ILB's that are likely first rounders. Quite the year for edge, ILB, and corners.
And a pretty brutal year for potential good Left Tackles. Ramczyk, maybe Bolles and.......?
Ram isn't talked about being a 1st round pick in other years drafts.
ChilliJon posted:Rueben Foster, Hassan Reddick, Jarrad Davis, Zach Cunningham. All ILB's that are likely first rounders. Quite the year for edge, ILB, and corners.
Love Jarrad Davis. He has that Bobby Wagner quality that every team needs on D.
Jarrad Davis is a bad man on the field. Super high character off it.
The Packers don't even have Lindsay Wagner quality on D. 
Davis will get picked 24th by the Raiders.
Yeah being in Denver I've heard all about the LT problem in this draft. Robinson, Ramczyk, Bolles, and Lamp are the top project OL and none project all that well. And the two positions that are deepest, are positions the Broncos are stacked: DB and outside pass rusher. They could draft one of those OL and have a day one starter, or they could draft a DB or edge rusher and have him be 4th on the depth chart. Its an interesting "need" vs "BPA" argument, one where the locals are convinced that Elway has ALWAYS gone BPA in the first.
Lucky for the Packers, they need edge rushers and DBs the most, so it's be a surprise if they didn't go with one in the first (preferably edge rusher) and the other in the second.
There are three guys I might bust a splooge over with the Packers first pick: Hassan Reddick, Chidobe Awuzie or Watt.
Ghost of Lambeau posted:Thanks for the explanation. I am glad you are a people person.
I am not sure I would move up either. Players have a way of "falling" into TT's lap. I am sure he will use the precious #29th pick to take the desperately needed long snapper that might just happen to "still" be available.
Dude...you can't under estimate the value of a franchise long-snapper...lol
Pistol GB posted:I can't escape the feeling that if he's there at 29 and Ted passes, he will regret it.
Wow.
Yeah, no. I ain't escaping that feeling any time soon.
Ouch.
Thompson is about as bad of a GM at evaluating defensive talent as there is.
They need to move on from him. Not taking Watt at 29 was insane.
I wasn't sure TJ Watt would be an all pro until TT passed on him.
If Watt would've played for a different school would all you homers be so up in arms about it? Doubt it!! Some of the comments about the situation are just plain silly, others are down right stupid!!
I made that point all the way at the top of the thread.
Of course, Badger fans still think Ron Dayne and Montee Ball were misused.
The good news is that Biegle is still out there....the dream lives!
Hoping he ends up like Clay Matthews brother who got the nickname Fredo from Philly fans.
So you want him to fail because TT passed on him? That seems rather.....shallow.
Agreed. I will be rooting for TJ myself. Yet another Wisconsin boy done well. I've met TJ, but I don't really know him as a person.
Badger fans should be glad they had 2 first round picks, regardless of who they went to. That helps recruiting tremendously. Biegel is a borderline 3rd/4th rounder, so they may get a guy in on Day 2, the other 3 or 4 guys will go late or UDFA.
The Badgers could have 32 first round picks and idiot kids will still choose Ohio State and Michigan.
An Ohio State wins. Wisconsin? Well, they won the B1G title game this past season, didn't they?
How many arrests has Urban Meyer recruited? That would be a fun chart.
I think Urban Meyer has stock in private prison corporations.
Herschel posted:So you want him to fail because TT passed on him? That seems rather.....shallow.
We don't watch football because of all the high character.
I heard YA Tittle once raised his voice to a puppy. Only because the puppy got in his face and called him a ghey. Obviously not a northern puppy.
