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Yes, the 6 credit first semester eligibility rule has been in place a long time. I coach at the Junior College level and we constantly get hammered about academics because of the number of kids we have that go ineligible ... however what people don't realize is that our kids (the lowest academic-able of any level) have to get a 2.0, while kids who have academically qualified for D1 can get two Ds and 3 Fs and are eligible!

My daughter was a Division 1 athlete at a mid-major (she was a distance runner). One of her assistant coaches gave her a ride to the airport for a holiday flight home. It was about 2 miles out of the way for the coach to drop her off at the airport (the coach had to drive by the airport exit to get home).

When she returned to campus, she was told that based on NCAA rules they had determined that this was an improper benefit and she'd have to repay $25 (the approximate taxi fare) and petition the conference for reinstatement before she was cleared to run again. She did and the reinstatement was a formality, but the level of scrutiny for an athlete in a non-revenue generating sport was absolutely ridiculous.

This was back in the mid-2010s, so it wasn't that long ago. At the same time, we knew of friends who had kids going to the University of Kentucky. The one-and-done basketball players there had to pass 6 credits in the fall semester and then were automatically eligible for the rest of the year. Somehow, the NCAA was fine with guys passing a physical education class and an entry-level class in some other area to get to be eligible to generate millions of dollars in tournament revenue, but were worried about things like dropping a kid off at the airport.

At least the hypocrisy is now more transparent.

Absolutely crazy and sad your daughter had to do that. 

No surprise about UK basketball and their shenanigans.  I think eventually things will come out about them, Bama football/SEC football, Ohio State, etc.

My all time favorite is when UNC basketball players got busted taking fake classes under a major that didn't even exist.  The NCAA was nowhere to be found because like I said before its all about the money.

@The Heckler posted:

Absolutely crazy and sad your daughter had to do that.

No surprise about UK basketball and their shenanigans.  I think eventually things will come out about them, Bama football/SEC football, Ohio State, etc.

My all time favorite is when UNC basketball players got busted taking fake classes under a major that didn't even exist.  The NCAA was nowhere to be found because like I said before its all about the money.

We are well enough off that my daughter's situation, while idiotic, was just a good story to tell. And, we could just hand over 25 dollars and it was didn't affect us at all. Some kids out there don't have 5 dollars to spare and they'd have to save up to pay it back.

The kids (and coaches) that got into trouble because a coach would give a few extra bucks to a kid whose family had no money so they could eat or buy a winter coat were the worst ones to hear about. If you read the Giannis biographies, his club team in Greece (well before it was evident they were going to make it as a pro athlete) would give the family food or hand-me-down clothes because they felt it was the right thing to do. If this would have been an NCAA team in the United States, they'd have been punished for "improper benefits." This type of enforcement was happening at the same time Cam Newton's father was auctioning him off to SEC teams and Zion Williamson's mother was getting 100K to consult for Nike and everyone acted like that was OK.

If the NCAA is going to allow NIL money to go directly into the athletes' pockets, then I think they can pay their own way or a portion, depending on how much they earn. Give the leftover scholarship money to a kid who isn't a star and needs the money or to a non-revenue generating sport kid who needs it or to the general fund. College kids who can throw a ball should not be getting thousands of dollars and free cars AND eat up scholarship money. No way. I know so many kids who are good students, play a non-revenue-positive sport, and who cannot go to college because of a lack of funds and scholarships in their sport.

But, that would be the fair thing to do, and the NCAA does not do fair. It only does dollars and makes no common sense.

@CUPackFan posted:

I was shocked when I saw Urban signed on to coach the Jags.  After Saban, Kelly, Spurrier, Davis, and Petrino all failed pretty spectacularly, not sure why he thought he could do any better.  College is 90% recruiting and motivating players, and 10% game day planning.  NFL is 10% motivating your players and 90% game day planning.  Ohio State had maybe 2-3 real games each year whereas the NFL offers no freebies.  The NFL is a an unforgiving grind and if you don't win, they want your head.

Not sure what Urban thought he was getting into but he didn't do his due diligence.  This is well on its way to being one of the most catastrophic hires ever.

Technically I didn't get it 100% right. He's not one of the most catastrophic hires ever. He was THE most catastrophic hire ever. Urban can't even be put in the group of college coaches who failed in the NFL. He's is in his own special category of failure. Kind of like the Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russell of coaching busts.  Every other coaching failure will be measured against Urban. 

NCAA screwed this up by not giving a few inches 20 years ago when this stuff was start to come up.  If they had allowed some small "stipends" to be paid to players and gotten rid of the ridiculous fringe benefit rules, the NCAA would still have been able keep rules in place to prevent a "wild west" scenario.  But sadly the NCAA is run by a bunch of morons who refused even the smallest changes to their system, and now college sports are set on a track to the unknown.  Don't blame the athletes, blame the Mark Emmert's of the NCAA. 

@CUPackFan posted:

Technically I didn't get it 100% right. He's not one of the most catastrophic hires ever. He was THE most catastrophic hire ever. Urban can't even be put in the group of college coaches who failed in the NFL. He's is in his own special category of failure. Kind of like the Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russell of coaching busts.  Every other coaching failure will be measured against Urban.

Disastrous hire for the Jets (sorry, the NFL wouldn't let me embed this one)

Whe was the last time a college head coach became a successful NFL head coach right out of a head coaching job in college?  I can’t think of any.  The last one I remember trying before this was Chip Kelley and he also failed miserably.  Granted, these guys are usually brought in to help desperate teams, but still.

There was a guy who coached at West Point who had a brief stint with a desperate NFL team in a cold location no one wanted to go to.   He cussed, scolded, pushed, and intimidated his players.  I think we all know how that worked out. 

@CUPackFan posted:

Technically I didn't get it 100% right. He's not one of the most catastrophic hires ever. He was THE most catastrophic hire ever. Urban can't even be put in the group of college coaches who failed in the NFL. He's is in his own special category of failure. Kind of like the Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russell of coaching busts.  Every other coaching failure will be measured against Urban.

I think it's a close call between him and Petrino. I'd give the nod to Urb, though.

Urban did an interview where he blamed his troubles in Jacksonville on how "soft" everyone has become. It's basically everyone's fault but his. What an asshole.

This account on Twitter made a good suggestion for a documentary. That 2008 Florida team was literally a bunch of criminals (minus Tebow and Haden).

Hernandez was convicted murderer after he got to the NFL and probably killed a guy WHILE he was in Gainesville. It's mino in comparison to what the other guys on this list did, but Cam was auctioned off by his father to Auburn the following year. A dead body was found in J. Jenkins basement a couple of years ago. Percy Harvin was known for telling assistant coaches to F off while at Florida and was just . Riley Cooper had some trouble using the n-word (among other things). The Pounceys had some nightclub brawl problems.

He then eventually went to Ohio State and had some problems with players (E. Elliott) and assistant coaches beating up women. What a molder of men.

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