Vikings first pick.......

Claiborne's agent, Bus Cook, said he hadn't heard about Claiborne's test score.

Boy ol' Short-Bus sure likes to surround himself with jeenyous clients.

He must have misspelled his name.

The kid has a learning disability which the test does not account for. Screw Florio for releasing this.

National Football Post has some good articles on the subject today.

Learning disability... but of course.

The SEC. Bilding Champeeyuns fer tomorow!

Last paragraph in the article, "We found in no cases was cognitive ability related to (football) performance. We did find a negative relationship for tight ends and defensive backs. For defensive backs, it was the most pronounced; basically, the lower you scored on the Wonderlic, the better you performed."

Does this mean Bush scored a 47? Does this make Claiborne a lock for the HOF?

FOUR?

Whats his learning disability, he can't read?

Duh $EC. So he has a learning disability? How in the world did he pass any classes in school? How many reading and math labs can one take?

You get a three just for spelling your name correctly.

He's one step above the "pet rock" as far as intelligence goes.

So he has a learning disability.

I'll bet many beers his football intelligence is much better than his pen to paper intelligence

http://www.ibtimes.com/article...t-nfl-draft-2012.htm

He may have football smarts, but I wonder if his high IQ keeps him out of trouble.

Thanks for the sample test. I scored a 2. I think I'll play DB next year.

Designated Beerdrinker?

do any of you really care what his education looked like? Do you prefer a 3.00 GPA over a 2.75?

2.4 GPA in college, now I almost make 65 grand a year. If only I could cover a fade route.....

I was in the middle of the test and my internet "shutdown".

As we all know, the vikings always do the right thing. I can just hear the conversations at winter park : " A four ? Hey, that's better than a two, right ?...let's take him".

There's a difference between mediocre student and brain dead.

one skips class and the other takes badminton twice in consecutive semesters?

I can just imagine what the current crop of Kentucky Wildcats took for classes - Counting Fun with Marbles, Painting by Numbers, Making Popcorn with ease, and Leisure Bowling.

In this case, it sounds like a guy that skipped class and thought badminton was an old York peppermint patty he found in his jeans.

"I found a badminton my pocket!!!"

Where are the Vikings going to play their winter games?

Winnepeg

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Originally posted by TD:
I can just imagine what the current crop of Kentucky Wildcats took for classes - Counting Fun with Marbles, Painting by Numbers, Making Popcorn with ease, and Leisure Bowling.

Future USPS supervisor.

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Designated Beerdrinker?

Dumb blonde.

Sorry to some of the people here, but I'll take this guy's word on it:

Eliot Wolf ‏ @eliotwolf46
Every year there are players who score in the 30s who can't learn football & players who score single digits who have great football minds.

Eliot Wolf ‏ @eliotwolf46
Wonderlic test is archaic & overrated. If a player has a reading comprehension issue or dyslexia, they are not given special circumstances

Must be learning disabled. Probably dyslexic.

I used to teach learning disabled kids. Usually very bright but don't do well in standardized tests. Claiborne is articulate in interviews. Feel bad for the kid that this all over the news.

Actually, Minnesota will probably take Claiborne...at pick 4. Seems that Minnesota is going to use Claiborne's wonderlic approach and since they pick after pick 2, they will believe they need to pick at 4 (you know, the whole even number thing in an even number draft year - DUH!).

Minnesota brass will subsequently defend their actions based on past precedence.

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Eliot Wolf ‏ @eliotwolf46
Wonderlic test is archaic & overrated. If a player has a reading comprehension issue or dyslexia, they are not given special circumstances

Interesting...pretty sure this is a violation of the ADA

The thing people seem to always forget or not understand about the Wonderlic is what the test measures. It's not actual "intelligence" but how quickly a person can process information. The questions themselves aren't hard, but they're sometimes written in "tricky" ways and the test is under a tight time constraint.

And yeah, someone with dyslexia would be SCREWED.

source

It can be viewed as a measure of general intelligence since its items are based on the original Otis Test of Mental Ability and since scores correlate well with measures of aptitude and intelligence.

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the test should not be given to individuals with poor reading or visuospatial skills (Hawkins et al., 1990; Dodrill, 1981)

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the Wonderlic may be somewhat more reflective of a person's habitual motivational status since it requires the client to complete the test alone without the constant prompting given in such measures as the Wechsler Test (Dodrill, 1981). Thus, the Wonderlic may be a more pertinent measure of the ability to respond to the unstructured demands of everyday living.

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although limited in its ability to accurately estimate FSIQ on a case by case basis, the test may prove an adequate screening measure for research purposes.

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although some have found that the Wechcler/Wonderlic scores tend to be within 10 points of each other (Dondril and Warner, 1988) others report that the Wonderlic scores misclassify about 30% of participants (Edinger et al., 1985; Carswell & Snow, 1996; Saltzman et al., submitted)

Will there be a test on this material?

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Originally posted by The Crusher:
Claiborne is articulate in interviews.

Racist.

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Originally posted by Rusty:

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Eliot Wolf ‏ @eliotwolf46
Wonderlic test is archaic & overrated. If a player has a reading comprehension issue or dyslexia, they are not given special circumstances

Interesting...pretty sure this is a violation of the ADA

How so?

pretty sure that isn't a violation of ADA, especially when you can opt to not take it with no consequence.

More on the 4


After reading the above, all I can think is...

I didn't notice you there
Til I felt your breath on my neck hair
Now you put me through my paces
You don't know what personal space is
And not a soul in the room
seems to have your need to share
Did you ever stop to wonder
Does anybody care?
Maybe the ladies are impressed
But I don't think so, let's be honest
Why don't you give that thing a rest
You're just a one-man pissin contest
This used to be a nice place
And now your dick is in the mayonnaise
How does one vent one's sense of sickness
At skull and skin of such vast thickness?
Of everybody at the party
Your target had to be me
I really hate to disappoint you
But I ain't got the need
'Cause it's the thing you do the best
The kind of fight of which you're fondest
You wanna brag, well be my guest
You won a solo pissin contest
I think by now we know better
You can't get blood from a bore
We gonna find that stupid sucker
Who let you through the door
None of the ladies were impressed
Our recollection may be jaundiced
We all recall with special zest
We saw a solo pissin contest

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Originally posted by The Crusher:
Must be learning disabled. Probably dyslexic.

I used to teach learning disabled kids. Usually very bright but don't do well in standardized tests. Claiborne is articulate in interviews. Feel bad for the kid that this all over the news.

The NFL needs to block these leaks immediately. It is embarrassing for the player and IMO worse so for the league. RIDICULOUS!

Who cares about intelligence on a standard test for a football player?! If they really want to test a guy's intelligence for his new profession, base the test on football terms or rules or coverages or how many yards there are on a football field. Most professions test specifically for that profession, so why should football be any different?

You mean like what Gruden did with Cam Newton?

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Originally posted by Herschel:
..... but they're sometimes written in "tricky" ways .....

Question #1: Where should a person drive their car?
A. Driveway
B. Parkway
C. Freeway

Question #2: Where should a person park their car?
A. Driveway
B. Parkway
C. Freeway

Question #3: Where can a person drive uninhibited?
A. Driveway
B. Parkway
C. Freeway

Maybe they should hire professional "test-takers" to take it for them. They will soon be able to afford it anyway.

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Originally posted by Fandame:
Who cares about intelligence on a standard test for a football player?! If they really want to test a guy's intelligence for his new profession, base the test on football terms or rules or coverages or how many yards there are on a football field. Most professions test specifically for that profession, so why should football be any different?

Again though, you miss a big part of what the test measures. The questions themselves aren't hard, it's how quickly you process information and discern/digest what's actually written. That's why it's more important for a quarterback, offensive lineman or middle linebacker who has to read a constantly shifting formation than a conerback who is assigned a zone or a man.