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Need improved QB play next year or history will repeat. His inaccuracy all season has been puzzling.

ST. As I've always said, it'll take a coaching purge to fix it.

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Amazing the job Pettine has done with what he's had to work with.

Tyler Lancaster played really well. Nice signing off the scrap heap by Gute.

Henry posted:

The Bears are going to get smoked in the first round of the playoffs.

By who????

Vikings?

Seahawks?

the Bears are good, not great, but outside of thr Rams and Saints, who’s all that good?

- Rodgers was clearly not sharp all game

-I hoped to see Josh Jackson make plays, he hasn't

-Receivers are not stepping up.  I hate to say it, but some resources are going to need to go into a wideout this offseason  

-Injuries

-I keep waiting for our punter to wow me since we used a pick on him, he hasn't

+ Despite all these things, they were a Jimmy Graham greasy hands away from making a real game of this.  Especially on defense with the two best players on the team not suiting up.  Lots will piss and moan this team is a trainwreck, I really can see them making noise with a few good moves this offseason.  

Need to use any excuse to IR Cobb, Rodgers, Graham, and Bulaga. They are playing two other teams out of playoff contention so there is no need to worry about anything. Let’s give Kizer some snaps. Winning these last two games only hurts draft position and they are not going to hurt any other team by tanking. The last thing we need is for a Spriggs screwup to get Rodgers hurt at this pint. 

Last edited by MichiganPacker2

Saying we need a WR in this draft shouldn't shock anyone.  I've been calling for a high RD WR for 3 years now as well as during this season, even when our rooks were showing some ability.  There is usually a reason you're picked on day 3.  We need true #2.

BearBite posted:
Henry posted:

The Bears are going to get smoked in the first round of the playoffs.

By who?  Vikings....Panthers.....Eagles?  or possibly Seahawks whom they already beat this season?

For such a "formidable" defense, that's some soft shit.  And yes, the Vikings or Seattle would likely beat the Bears.  You do actually need to produce offense on a regular basis.  Well, maybe the Bears and Vikings can flip a coin on who is going to try and produce offense for that game since it's such an iffy proposition for teams that suck for ages to finally hope their stack of high round picks makes it to the second game of the playoffs.

Wolf picked his HOF QB at the beginning of his tenure.  TT at the beginning of his tenure.  You're up GillyNilly.

 

PackLandVA posted:
Henry posted:

The Bears are going to get smoked in the first round of the playoffs.

By who????

Vikings?

Seahawks?

the Bears are good, not great, but outside of thr Rams and Saints, who’s all that good?

The bears seem to play to the level of their competition.  That and division games are usually closer because of familiarity.  I think they're capable of being a lot better than they were today but what what I also think we saw were two guys who have been around the leauge a long time, dealing with the new kid on the block more successfully than a roster like our should have.  

+ we made a game of it on the road until our banged up D got gassed watching our high school offense stink again.

-what cretin decided our offense didn't need motion, misdirection, and rub routes? How can Rodgers be a part of this piece of shit fiasco for God's sake?

+Another waste of a season is over.

-Two teams from the North are in the Playoffs and we are not one of them. 

-The prime of Rodgers’s abilities appears to have passed, and the front office already wasted those years with “we do what we do” and “draft and develope” while every other contending team actually rebuilt properly and do what we can’t do.  

-The NFL is continuing its decline and un-enjoyability with awful officiating, rules, and general douche-baggery. 

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+ The team played hard in spite of the fact they are so short manned right now

- This offense desperately needs a #2 or #3 WR.  Adams is a really good but when you have only one WR who can get open the QB is going to struggle at times.

- To me one HUGE negative was tackling or rather more accurately the total lack of tackling.

We are going to see in the next few months how good Gute is as a GM.  This roster is so thin right now and he needs to fill a ton of holes.

With as inaccurate as Rodgers has been all season how can anyone say the rookie WR are not any good?  Scantling was wide open for a TD today and Rodgers over threw him by 5 yards.  There were other times the rookies were open all season but Rodgers didn't throw to them. 

NumberThree posted:

+Another waste of a season is over.

-Two teams from the North are in the Playoffs and we are not one of them. 

-The prime of Rodgers’s abilities appears to have passed, and the front office already wasted those years with “we do what we do” and “draft and develope” while every other contending team actually rebuilt properly and do what we can’t do.  

-The NFL is continuing its decline and un-enjoyability with awful officiating, rules, and general douche-baggery. 

Not so fast on the Vikings...

With Cobb and Allison missing so much time, and Graham being ineffective (due to play calling, age, or both), I think it's a bit much to expect a 4th Rounder or two 6th Rounders to step in to the #2 WR role.  I think they have talent and should make strides through minis and TC.

I was thinking today while (sort of) watching the game, what would our feelings be about Deshone Kizer if we were the team that had drafted him last year?  He had a bad rookie season with Cleveland and it was thought that maybe he should have stayed another year at ND.  He has only played sparingly in GB.  Do we really know if he's any good.  He has great size, athletic ability and arm strength.  He's only 22 and is signed through 2021.

I only did a brief search about Kizer's draft scouting report but it was actually comparable to Rodger's.  Maybe the heir apparent is already on the team.

 

 

 

Obviously who knows about Kizer but it was reported that the Pack was high on him coming into the draft. Without researching, not sure on 'who' was but I do it recall it being reported.

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ammo posted:

With as inaccurate as Rodgers has been all season how can anyone say the rookie WR are not any good?  Scantling was wide open for a TD today and Rodgers over threw him by 5 yards.  There were other times the rookies were open all season but Rodgers didn't throw to them. 

That's true, that one time he was wide open.  

There are a shitton of other times our wide receivers are not getting open, running good routes, dropping balls, etc.  But that one time...

I’d love to see the % of times recievers run exact routes so they are where they are supposed to be. 

This offense looks like a guessing game between AR and the recievers where he thinks they’re headed. 

The missed TD to EQ is a good example. He kept his route vertical. Rodgers threw inside. Rodgers asking recievers to come back toward him when the pocket collapses is another. 

Offense in general looks like it doesn’t have a plan. 

Last edited by ChilliJon

So true. How many times have we saw since game 1 where Rodgers is either shaking his head or throwing his arms with his palms up like, "What the hell was that?" after an incomplete pass?  Too many times for me. 

Shocked that a 4th Rounder and two 6th Rounders aren’t ready by now to be starters.  Crazy.

Davante was awesome his first couple of years. Jordy too.   And Driver.  And Brooks. Yep, why haven’t these clowns picked up the game by now???

Last edited by PackLandVA

+  They played hard.

-   This season has been a nightmare... one that there's no guarantee they wake up from.  This team needs so much more talent than they have, I don't see them being a Super Bowl contender next year.  They have a lot of work to do to get the organization back to elite status.  

ChilliJon posted:

I’d love to see the % of times recievers run exact routes so they are where they are supposed to be. 

This offense looks like a guessing game between AR and the recievers where he thinks they’re headed. 

The missed TD to EQ is a good example. He kept his route vertical. Rodgers threw inside. Rodgers asking recievers to come back toward him when the pocket collapses is another. 

Offense in general looks like it doesn’t have a plan. 

This season in a nutshell right here. Spot on.

Biggest hole to fill is Head Coach and Offensive Coordinator.

Then OLB, OL, Safety, and TE. And with the beatings they take, you always need new running backs. I would not put WR high on the list. 

Last edited by Pistol GB

+ Pettine. Still think he's the real deal. Nothing to work with and somehow keeps them playing hard, even after a not-so-hot start. The D pulls it together and makes fewer mistakes; I bet the mistakes made all year are fewer than half what they were in half a season under that bad-toupee guy.

+ Adams. Williams is a reliable second RB. DL looks deeper; Lowry looks like he will either break out next year or be a reliable sub.

- Rodgers. Is his year an anomaly or trend? If his receivers aren't doing what he wants, then he needs to step up and help them. On the other hand, he overthrew guys he usually hits with his eyes closed for TDs. Yes, his Oline is scary, but his inaccuracy this year has made him extra-cautious and he's passed up too many throws and missed on too many others. 

- Offense. If this O were even halfway decent, they would have won a lot more. GB lost to Det by 8, LAR by 2, Seattle by 3, MN by 7, AZ by 3, today by 7, and one tie.  

- Bears win division.

+ Better than Vikings winning it.

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