I buy t-shirts at Menards for $3, they are great for yard work. Usually cut the sleeves off for when it's hot.
I miss the Save Big Money at Menards commercials on the Packer Radio Network. They weren't irritating, unlike the Allis windows jingle.
I wonder how much he is paying Rodgers to use his likeness.
This is the first time I've begun to see things percolating online about Murphy and that AR's real problem is with Murphy. If AR could get Murphy fired, it might be the most important thing he's ever done in Green Bay (and that includes winning the Super Bowl).
IMO much truth here:
I didn’t think at all the AR frustration was directed solely at Gute, but rather at Mark Murphy and to a lesser extent Russ Ball.
Murphy just can’t help himself from saying stupid shit and at times he’s doing his best Jerruh Jones impression. He’s a putz of epic proportions. As for Ball, I’ve not heard of one person - player, coach, agent, insider, etc say one positive thing about the guy. He’s sounds like a pain in the ass to work with, and even worse he has too much authority for being a glorified bean counter.
If this was Murphy's first experience in this type of situation you might (MIGHT) cut him a little more slack. However, he also screwed up the Favre situation back in 2008. He's the guy that clumsily tried to bribe Favre into staying retired by offering him 25 million. How is that financially responsible? If people are arguing that Murphy has done a solid job of making the Packers financially more sustainable, how does offering someone 25 million to do nothing not get you in hot water with the board?
I doubt anything happens to Murphy based on a move from the board, but this might be the first time they have to go on record about something really substantial rather than just being ceremonial. There are some interesting names on the executive committee in terms of being ex-players: Larry McCarren, George Koonce, Eric Torkelson, Dexter McNabb. McCarren in particular is probably very plugged into what's happening in the locker room.
I have no idea if there is hope via who's on the board to remove Murphy, but if they are not wanting to fire him, then I believe they should make the move in removing Murphy from all football related decisions including free agency, the draft, and contract decisions and give the GM total control.
Russ Ball also moves strictly to the role Brandt had. He also has no input in who the Packers retain or drafts, etc.
So basically, Gute has what Ron Wolf had in power and this triangle of tragedy goes away.
Murphy can focus on expanding Lambeau's real estate image and basically striving for what the Bucks have done in Milwaukee with the Deer District and keeping GB financially viable. That's more then a full-time job.
If Murphy isn't willing to do that, then he's fired and per the article above, look to bring in new blood such as Eliot Wolf as the new President.
This has just become an embarrassment.
Well, I'm SHOCKED that the guy that thought a rah rah meathead college coach that runs an offense from 1964 and actively tries to prevent players from getting any power would be a good replacement for McCarthy isn't exactly a genius when it comes to football communications and positions.
Eliot Wolf can’t even find a GM job. What makes people think he would make a good president? All that is is simple name recognition which is ridiculous
This whole situation just blows ass. I know there are more important things going on in the world, but didn’t think we as fans would relive the same scenario we went through with 4. Although circumstances are different, end result could be the same. Just disappointing I guess.
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Fuckin Murphy and overall Packer arrogance in my opinion
@MichiganPacker2 posted:This is the first time I've begun to see things percolating online about Murphy and that AR's real problem is with Murphy. If AR could get Murphy fired, it might be the most important thing he's ever done in Green Bay (and that includes winning the Super Bowl).
Biggest problem I have with these “options” is they’re all football people. The GBP Prez should be the business focused person, not a football guy. Harlan was not on the football ops side of the house with GB before being President, I think having that football background causes some desire to meddle. Get a person who can facilitate these continuous improvements/attractions, who can manage diverse/tough personalities, and who will not micromanage.
The BOD needs to decide who is more critical, meaning who makes more money for the organization, because every time Murphy opens his mouth it seems like the dispute is more focused specifically between him and Rodgers. Murphy has done a good job with the business side during his tenure IMO, but it’s not like his success was unique or couldn’t be built upon.
As Brandt intimated, the board is largely impotent...they have always deferred to the leadership and don't look to make changes.
Murphy operates as the defacto owner of the GBP. Harlan kept out of football and empowered his GM's. Murphy's Silos of Failure urinate all over that. For that reason, the board needs to grow a pair and give this guy the option to retire to be fired.
But I doubt that happens.
@YooperPackfan posted:Eliot Wolf can’t even find a GM job. What makes people think he would make a good president? All that is is simple name recognition which is ridiculous
Unless you personally need to live in a big city, the job of being Packers' President is probably the best executive-level job in professional sports in the US, maybe in the world. You get to act like an owner, have one of the most historically important franchises in US professional sports to use as your foundation to leverage fundraising, and no aggressive local media to deal with. The Packers should get numerous top-tier candidates for this position should it open up. You have the power of an owner without any outside pressure to make money in your other non-football businesses.
All Murphy has to do is hire a good GM, keep watch over their overall financial situation, and don't say anything stupid. He's hired a decent GM, done a good job on the revenue streams, but failed at keeping a low profile. His problem is that it seems like he wants the spotlight and the credit for any success the Packers have while deflecting any failures to others. I've seen these types of bosses in my profession and those associated with it. It inevitably ends badly.
@Tavis Smiley posted:This whole situation just blows ass. I know there are more important things going on in the world, but didn’t think we as fans would relive the same scenario we went through with 4. Although circumstances are different, end result could be the same. Just disappointing I guess.
I'd be OK with the end result being the same. Another HOF quarterback.
Barry Alvarez, book it
Barry Alvarez in Murphy's role? I've never had bigger Wisconsin Wood. You are genius.
@packerboi posted:I have no idea if there is hope via who's on the board to remove Murphy, but if they are not wanting to fire him, then I believe they should make the move in removing Murphy from all football related decisions including free agency, the draft, and contract decisions and give the GM total control.
Russ Ball also moves strictly to the role Brandt had. He also has no input in who the Packers retain or drafts, etc.
So basically, Gute has what Ron Wolf had in power and this triangle of tragedy goes away.
Murphy can focus on expanding Lambeau's real estate image and basically striving for what the Bucks have done in Milwaukee with the Deer District and keeping GB financially viable. That's more then a full-time job.
If Murphy isn't willing to do that, then he's fired and per the article above, look to bring in new blood such as Eliot Wolf as the new President.
This has just become an embarrassment.
Fire the president of a team that’s been to the NFCCG two years in a row because the sensitive fuck of a well-paid QB is upset because he didn’t receive a phone call prior to the GM having the balls to draft for the future? Yea, makes perfect sense.
Fuck 12.
Not to mention he cut the no. 6 wideout on the team that 12 was buddies with. F12
@Pakrz posted:Fire the president of a team that’s been to the NFCCG two years in a row because the sensitive fuck of a well-paid QB is upset
Nah, don't fire ol' Murph for the reasons stated above.
Fire him because ol' Murph is the nitwit who ignored the fact his GM, who everyone inside the organization and plenty of folks outside the organization knew was (medically) incompetent for 3 or more years before ol' Murph finally "moved" him to another position.
And fire him because when ol' Murph' finally paid enough attention to what was happening on the football side of the Packer organization, he did not get rid of Mac at the same time as Ted and allowed Mac to hire Pettine as DC.
And because ol' Murph "persuaded" MLF to keep Pettine as DC when ol' Murph finally, finally moved on from Mac.
And because ol' Murph went cheap on MLF's preferred Special Teams Coach, which led to 2 wasted years under Mennenga.
And because ol' Murph has presided over a franchise that has somehow managed to appear in ZERO SBs over the past decade despite its QB winning 3 MVPs during that same period of time.
And because ol' Murph makes the entire organization look like it is run by unsophisticated rubes with his stupid ass comments.
If one follows the Pack because they (a) are big fans of sledding or (b) get all quivery when they win the NFC North, then of course ol' Murph is your man.
However, if one would like to see the Pack actually get to and possibly even win another SB this century, then it is past time to Fuck ol' Murph and get someone who prioritizes winning Lombardis back in charge of the organization.
@Pakrz posted:Fire the president of a team that’s been to the NFCCG two years in a row because the sensitive fuck of a well-paid QB is upset because he didn’t receive a phone call prior to the GM having the balls to draft for the future? Yea, makes perfect sense.
Fuck 12.
Who do you think got them there? Murphy and the whole cadre of FO staff owe their careers to TT drafting Rodgers.
Fact.
I believe Rodgers when he says it's not about JL.
It is now, and always has been about control of his career. He wants a guarantee that he finishes in GB, when he wants. Packers want options.
“Aaron’s selfish,” a former NFL GM tells me.“Teammates don’t like him. Coaches don’t like him. It’s all about Aaron.”
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i want to hear more from this unnamed former GM along with more "what if" quotes Rodgers might have said after winning a superbowl
This is by far the stupidest, most generic, half ass response ever.
“The guy’s selfish,” a former NFL general manager tells FanSided. “Teammates don’t like him. Coaches don’t like him. It’s all about Aaron.
“They all deal with him, because he’s a superstar. He helps guys make money and put food on the table for their kids, and people respect him for that.”
You mean players literally rely on Rodgers to make money rather than their own talents.
Got it.
I bet it was Phil Emery.
Rodgers ended a lot of careers too.
@Henry posted:“They all deal with him, because he’s a superstar. He helps guys make money and put food on the table for their kids, and people respect him for that.”
You mean players literally rely on Rodgers to make money rather than their own talents.
Got it.
I'd like to hear Adams take on that, who was ballin' even with limp dick Hundley throwing him the rock.
@Henry posted:This is by far the stupidest, most generic, half ass response ever.
“The guy’s selfish,” a former NFL general manager tells FanSided. “Teammates don’t like him. Coaches don’t like him. It’s all about Aaron.
“They all deal with him, because he’s a superstar. He helps guys make money and put food on the table for their kids, and people respect him for that.”
You mean players literally rely on Rodgers to make money rather than their own talents.
Got it.
Yep. As is the practice of anonymous sourcing. Whole thing started just like this with Schefter's "I've heard it from many people this spring." None of this means anything but speculation. And one guy has the power to put an end to all of it.
And for that reason, fuck him and the passive aggressive horse he rode into town on.
@artis posted:Yep. As is the practice of anonymous sourcing. Whole thing started just like this with Schefter's "I've heard it from many people this spring." None of this means anything but speculation. And one guy has the power to put an end to all of it.
You mean how you would like it.
@Henry posted:You mean how you would like it.
I mean what I said. Power to put an end to it. What I would "like" is for the staff and locker room to proceed with the collective goal of winning a title in mind. Not to be held hostage and in limbo all the way into September.
I'm not sure why it's become so difficult to see the link between this and the Favre saga in that everyone is hostage to the situation. I'm not sure how Favre having no intent toward Rodgers didn't preclude people from rightly vilifying Brett, while Rodgers having no intent toward Love makes this acceptable. Each case served to take hostages in their own way. Both cases dragged a young, highly drafted qb into a world of bullshit out of their control. And in the end it will all be for nothing but some petty personal agenda.
Can anyone even say what it would look like if Aaron were to get everything he wanted? Might that be worth a 4th qtr td drive vs Tampa to take the lead and win the game and a trip to the SB?
You should be pissed at the organization. I'm pissed at them too. But I'm also not going to pretend that there is some rah rah, team oriented agenda that includes "people" while I watch Packer Nation twist and turn because one guy needed to lap up the turmoil like a pig in shit. I've accepted that it won't turn out the way I want. Bert taught me that lesson when it became his way or the highway.
I was going to respond but then I realized it's like trying to correct plot holes in a Hallmark Channel movie.
Bert jerked the Packers around with endless retirement bullshit. Rodgers wants to be in Green Bay to win a Super Bowl.
Not sure why that's so difficult to grasp.