What We Learned...

We learned the Sherrod and Brad Jones shouldn't be on a NFL team. 

we learned that this team will get what it was designed for.  Lighter, faster defense means they will get pushed around up front, just like we saw, expect it more especially when a qb sees those psycho, amoeba, or whatever formations where there are extra LB's or safeties in - its just the way its built, the scheme and guys are wrong.

1. We must have missed 100 tackles. "Does anyone know how to play this game?"

2. Very shrewd to keep 3 QB's. Because if sherrod gets any more playing time they're sitting ducks.

3. Starting every series on the 13 yard line sucks.

4a. Burnett is bad.

4b. DL is worse.

4c. ILB is all-world ass bucket.

4d. HaHa, Barrington, Pennel better be able to beat out the scrubs ahead of them soon.

5. TJ Lang almost busted more plays in the backfield than sherrod.

6. Trying to run right was futile even before Bulaga want done.

7. Going for it on 4th and 5 at that point and with that field position was braindead.

8. Running Lacy wide against a speed defense is braindead. They'll string it out every time. 

9. Enough of the Winston Moss experiment. He wouldn't recognize an ILB if one sat on his face.

Very good post

Obviously we talk about the bad ILB play but where are Daniels and Datone Jones and Morgan Burnett?   These guys are all good athletes but Jones and Burnett in particular don't make plays and Daniels needs to talk less and make more sacks and tackles

The other factor is our vaunted offense was totally neutralized by the Seattle D.   That cannot happen given the mediocre play of the defense. 

I wasn't expecting GB to win but the score does not indicate how much of a beat down this was by Seattle.  When they got the safety it was game over.

Capers still needs to be accountable for the undisciplined play of the defense and the absolute lack of game planning for the receiver sprint sweeps. It appeared as though they had never seen this before.

It reminded my why I was so confident that he would be gone at the end of last season.

It's a passing league, so we've been told. So the Packers build a team to pass the ball and defend the pass. Then get their ass kicked by a team that runs the ball and defends the run very well.

They may game plan those sweeps. But our interior D may be so pre-occupied with getting their asses kicked that they can't contemplate wide plays.

 

Hard to consider alternatives when their world is crumbling. IOW, we are weaker than chit up the middle.

 

And we are weaker than chit on the right side of our OL. 

I've defended Capers like a wolverine for years. But you couldn't watch last nights game and come away thinking the issues are entirely talent related. Seattle had 207 rushing yards and eased up. They could have run that read option all night. Watching their first preseason game I posted they would run the jet sweep to Harvin. A lot. The defense looked completely unprepared for Seattle. Add to that the staggering liability of the dynamic duo at ILB. The read option fake TD pass was a great example of a team that had no responsibility assignments. 

 

Im giving the O a pass. Great offenses look like crap in Seattle all the time. Im not a fan of trying to run stretch plays against Seattle. You run right at them. But again. Seattle is good enough on D to make good coaches overthink things and make everything seem accelerated to good QBs. 

 

It will be interesting to see how this team responds next Sunday and the upcoming weeks with division road games. 

Without having seen a snap from the 30 other teams, we can only conclude how these two teams stack up against one another. As of Week 1, it isn't close.

I don't think there is another team in the league on Seattle's level with a healthy Harvin, but that's little consolation with the road having to go through them. Let's see what the next 16 weeks bring before setting fire to our jerseys and tickets.

1. The defense should be dubbed the Vermillion Bob Bon. They're covered over the top and on the outside but the middle is as soft as it gets.

 

2. Bakhtiari wasn't really any better than Sherrod. He got exposed when they rolled help away from him as the guy who struggles against speed. Sherrod actually had a pretty good series in the hurry-up drive in the 4th, he stopped some good speed rushes and got to the second level to help Starks get a the first down. Neither are prime-time players.

 

3. Blame Capers or Moss all you want, but the fact appears to be this defense simply lacks talent in the middle. Mike Daniels is a nice situational pass rusher, Guion would have been on the street had it not been for Raji's injury and ILB is a mess for the 8th straight season.

I was unable to see the 2nd half and while I am seeing a lot of concerns with the defense, I admit to being perplexed by some of the folks who predicted a Packer win.  Not so much the prediction, but the seeming lack of concern with what kind of push our offensive line would get.

 

Seattle's defense dominated our offense.  It seemed our RB's were first met by a defender at most 2 yards beyond the LoS.  Rodgers didn't have much time.  I know it was 2 years ago and teams change, but this is the team that sacked Rodgers 8 times in the first half (2 yeara ago).

 

The Packers are no where near at that defensive level.

 

Offense?  I feel the team is snake bit.  If Bulaga is again out for the year and if we allow including Sherrod (an attempt after a horrible injury that may fail), you're talking 3 tackles (Barkley the other).

 

One game into the season?  That is surreal bad luck.

What I learned? A team and organization light years ahead of ours at the moment. Outplayed at every position and outcoached. A pupil, schooling a mentor with draft picks and free agent signings all over the board. Knew after last seasons opener at SF that GB could play with them. They cannot play with Seattle now.

 

A perfect end to a nightmarish stretch for Wisconsin sports fans.

We learned that GB is a good team that didn't play its best game and Seattle is a great team that didn't play its best game either.  We'll see if that holds up for 5 months.  

 

The difference between good teams and great teams, aside from talent obviously, is execution.  GB missed about 850 tackles last night.  How many did SEA miss?  AR misses Jordy by about 3 inches on a throw and Jordy pops the ball right to the CB for an INT.  GB and POS Brad Jones drop the one chance at an INT they had.  Those are just two examples.  On a scale of 1-10, SEA is a 10 and GB is a 7.  On opening night, banner-unveiling night and in easily the toughest place to play in the league right now, that all adds up to an ass-whipping.  

 

Simple as that.  

The only hope this team, or any team, has in catching SEA is for SEA to lose players.  Injuries or FA down the road.

Same thing we have seen for years. Capers should have been gone two years ago, I get injuries. I get maybe TT not giving him talent. I will say I'm just tired of him. Fire him today.

We learned that the defense still can't stop the run, just like last year.

 

We learned the Packers coaching staff had months to prepare for this game and completely failed. They had no answer for Harvin or Lynch.

I have to admit the scramble when he could of had the first down and fired the rocket ball over the head of somebody reminded me of him.

and the year before and the year before...

Not true about dropping our only chance at an INT JJSD, HaHa dropped on too, but i was so excited to see a safety to be in place to make one in the first place made it all good

I totally agree chickenboy about the comment you made about this being a nightmare week for Wisconsin sports fans. I was thinking after the game last night that since last week tuesday, the start of the Brewers losing streak that Wisconsin teams to include the Brewers, Badgers, and Packers are 0-10 during that stretch. Brutal...

Actually I thought the offensive player made a good play stripping the ball from Ha Ha.

Bucks are undefeated during that stretch.

learned that three years after Kaeperpunk killed the Packers with the read option Dom Capers defense still can't stop it.

 

So the secret D planning that Capers et al were working on was a 4-3? Is this the 4-3 line-up? If not, it should be.

 

Peppers - Daniels - Jones - Neal/Perry

Perry/Neal - Barrington - CM3

 

MM came up with the brilliant idea not to even looking Richard Sherman's way. What the ****, this guy is not Deion, Darrell Green, Mel Blount. Vikings Hall of Fame candidate, Jarius Wright torched him twice last year on double moves for a touchdown.

 

So when Adams was open Rodgers never looked that way. BTW, the right side of the field is where Rodgers or any right handed QB has the most success throwing. You have the best QB in the league and you hamstring him by taking away his greatest strength.

 

Wagner was unbelievable last night. He was running with our WR and pancaking TJLang.

Guess we can't judge our team soft until we start playing normal humans.

Why would you throw at the best CB in the league when you have Jordy Nelson vs their 4th stringer from a year ago? And Randall Cobb vs some nobody CB that they just acquired? These WRs should have been able to get open, too many coverage sacks. Nelson and Cobb sh*t the bed as much as anyone.

Who would have that we would be praising Corey Linsley as the only guy on the offense that DIDN'T have a bad game. He was the only one that didn't crap his pants or lose control.

Too much to agree with there.  Damn you.

Most of "what we learned" last month we've known for a very long time.

 

The ILBs have stunk for three years…we didn't need last night to confirm that.

 

The d-line can't stop the run…again, we didn't' need last night to confirm that.

Capers will get out schemed and out smarted by a younger offensive coordinator…knew that before last night.

 

The o-line has no depth and will be in trouble when the inevitable injury comes up…again we knew that already.

 

So I don't think we learned much last night that we didn't already know. The few things I did learn were probably positive -- the rookie center will be just fine and Dix is an upgrade over the safeties from last year. At least he's in a spot to make plays. But those two positives are completely outweighed by every negative we've known for some time now coming under the microscope last night.

 

This team will be fine against many teams in the NFL. But it's apparent they are at least a tier below, perhaps two, the truly elite teams in the NFL.

The fat guys last year produced the same result.

Honestly as soon as I saw the schedule I immediately chalked this one up as a loss and starting out 0-1.  Right now Seattle is close to unbeatable at home and are just tougher than the Packers are. 

I do think that sooner or later the defensive coaching staff needs to bang it in to their heads for how to play the pistol, spread option, or whatever it is called.  Stay in your spot and don't get faked out right away.  They also seem to get pushed around a lot of defense and it seems to be a trend the last few years.  Get pushed around, can't tackle and play soft. 

On offense I was thinking all night long whatever happened to the lethal GB screen pass?  Mike you are not going to run right at them why not run a screen sometimes to get the RB out is space to make plays?

My last thought is how can one team be so snake bit by injuries?  It seems like it is every single year for the last 4-5 years they have endured this.

I found it interesting that Seattle used a spy of Rodgers a number of times. Of course Seattle has multiple linebackers who have speed and are actually aware, which would be quite a switch.

I think the reason Brad Jones got the penalties instead of AJ Hawk is Jones was actually close to an eligible Seahawks ball handler once in a while.

I think we learned that despite all the hype about the modern NFL being a passing league, that if you can't stop the run or run the ball consistently yourself, you are not going to win consistently. I don't think you can criticize the offense too much until you see them play a couple of other defenses. That Seattle defense is going to make a lot of teams look bad. However, I don't think the Seattle offense has a line filled with Pro Bowlers and they just owned the Packers defensive line. Hawk and Jones looked bad, but when your DTs are just being destroyed, it's hard for any ILBs to be productive.

 

Overall the defense may be as good as any in the NFL on the edges. Our CB depth is strong and Matthews, Peppers, Neal, etc. are as good a group of edge rushers and OLBs in the NFL.

 

Contrast that with the fact that the defense may be as bad as any in the NFL up the middle. Our ILBs are at best pedestrian and our safeties weren't always stellar last night (but I think there is hope for Dix and not having to trot MD Jennings out there is addition by subtraction). However, our DTs just looked awful. Seattle would run up the middle and Lynch would be 3-4 yards past the line of scrimmage before he even had to elude a tackler. While perhaps they were counting on Raji, that means that the plan going into this season was to rely on a guy that almost no one else in the  NFL wanted and a guy the Vikings were willing to let go without even batting an eye backing him up. That didn't seem like the most intelligent plan before Raji got hurt, let alone now.

I think we also learned that the quality of the packers WR and TE ar a big question mark besides nelson and cobb. in the last two years they have lost Jennings, Jones, and Finley. it was the right move to let them go but it stings. Arguably three near pro bowl type players. They have replaced them with Richard Rogers Devonte Adams and Jeff Janis. Rodgers clearly looks nelson first every time instead of spreading the ball around. Jarrett Boykin and Andrew Quarles scare no one.

 

On another note, Brad Jones might be the worst ILB in the league as we know. Why stick with this guy?

 

They need to sign Eric Winston to play RT. he might be a little old but Sherrod is not a starter nor is he even a capable back up. Bulagsa missed the last two years. Why would they think he wouldnt get hurt again?

 

Back to the drawing board. All that hope from MM gone in 3 hours.

 

Pretty sad

I just learned that the Packers have a receiver named Earl Boykin.

All I know is that we looked very slow in comparison to Seattle.  Too many "pass rushing LB's" who can't turn their hips and run to make a tackle.  Seattle had all of them (save for Matthews) misdirected and running the wrong way with their play action/option all day.

 

Limiting yourself to only half the field on offense is also one of the dumber ideas I've seen in a while.  You can't play scared like that.

 

That said I thought the rookies played well, and it's just one game.  We've laid eggs worse than this and were fine.

I think we learned that this is what Seattle does in Seattle. Last year they beat SF 29-3 at home. SF was the 3rd best team in football. They beat New Orleans 34-7 at home. New Orleans was a top 10 team in football. They destroyed Denver on a neutral field 43-8. Denver was the 2nd best team in football.

 

If you want to take last night's game and say this team will never walk into SEA and win, I can't really make a strong case against. But if you want the team to pack it up and call it a year based on this game, I'd let them take the field another time or two first.

5'5" receivers don't scare anyone in the NFL?

 

Don't tell that to Tiny LB!

 

 

 

@kworst.

 

What you're telling us that the quality of WR and TE for SF and Denver is actually below that of GB. Because the GB passing game outperformed what SF or Denver did to Seattles D the previous two games Seattle has played. Denver even had the benefit of playing on a neutral field. Crabtree, Boldin, Davis, Demaryius Thomas, Welker, Decker, Julius Thomas. These guys couldn't put up better numbers than GB did last night. 

 

We learned Seattles defense is really special. But we kind of already knew that.