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Tschmack posted:

Interesting move.  Initial reaction is it seems a bit puzzling but perhaps this could signal another move is coming.   The guy has a lot of power that should translate well to Miller Park but he’s not a very good defensive player as we all witnessed in the playoffs. 

18MM for a career .240 guy.  That’s amazing.  

If batting average wasn't the absolute worst way to judge the offensive abilities of a player, you might have a point, but then we'd have to also consider that in all the other games of his career you didn't witness, he's a very good defensive player. 

Timpranillo posted:
Tschmack posted:

Interesting move.  Initial reaction is it seems a bit puzzling but perhaps this could signal another move is coming.   The guy has a lot of power that should translate well to Miller Park but he’s not a very good defensive player as we all witnessed in the playoffs. 

18MM for a career .240 guy.  That’s amazing.  

If batting average wasn't the absolute worst way to judge the offensive abilities of a player, you might have a point, but then we'd have to also consider that in all the other games of his career you didn't witness, he's a very good defensive player. 

Disagree.

Gold gloves is the worst way to judge the offensive abilities of a player.

Followed closely by BA

He does strike out a lot. But he hits a lot of HRs and drives in runs. Offensively, he’s a huge upgrade over what they have.  Hitting in Miller Park should help as well.  Load up the lineup. 

The passed balls are a concern, but no player is perfect.  It is what it is.  It’s tough to get past what he did in the playoffs, but the article YA posted makes me a lot more comfortable about what he can do over the course of a season. 

I also like the one year factor in his contract.   

 

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Brewers reach arby deals with several players.  $5, 125,000 with Knebel, $4, 675,000 with Shaw,   $1,275,000 with Claudio,  $2,600,000 with Zach Davies,  and $2,225,000 with Junior Guerra. All were 1 year deals. 

Also Manny Pina  signed a $1,600,000 contract for 2019 and $1,850,000 for 2020 with a $150,000 buyout. 

 

Tschmack posted:

He does strike out a lot. But he hits a lot of HRs and drives in runs. Offensively, he’s a huge upgrade over what they have.  Hitting in Miller Park should help as well.  Load up the lineup. 

The passed balls are a concern, but no player is perfect.  It is what it is.  It’s tough to get past what he did in the playoffs, but the article YA posted makes me a lot more comfortable about what he can do over the course of a season. 

I also like the one year factor in his contract.   

 

The fact he is regarded as the best pitch framer around probably makes him more likely to have passed balls. If you are constantly trying to pull your glove back toward the strike zone it makes it tougher. 

Timpranillo posted:
Tschmack posted:

Interesting move.  Initial reaction is it seems a bit puzzling but perhaps this could signal another move is coming.   The guy has a lot of power that should translate well to Miller Park but he’s not a very good defensive player as we all witnessed in the playoffs. 

18MM for a career .240 guy.  That’s amazing.  

If batting average wasn't the absolute worst way to judge the offensive abilities of a player, you might have a point, but then we'd have to also consider that in all the other games of his career you didn't witness, he's a very good defensive player. 

I hope so! 

Grandal has more defensive runs saved (39) over the past three seasons than any other catcher in the Major Leagues.

https://thefirstoutatthird.com...waukee-brewers-need/

By DRS, Grandal has been the top defensive catcher in the Majors the past three years.

Then, there’s his offense:

“According to the Baseball Prospectus version of wins above replacement, which includes a catcher’s pitch-framing ability, Grandal was the 14th most valuable position player in baseball last season (5.0 WAR) and the eighth most valuable player per plate appearance (5.8 WAR per 600 plate appearances) among qualified hitters.

That was not a fluke.

In terms of total value, Grandal was the No. 1 position player by WAR per plate appearance in 2016 (8.7 WAR per 600 plate appearances), and he ranked seventh in 2017. Over the past four seasons, he was worth 21.2 total WAR. That’s star-level production. He turned 30 in November, so he’s not ancient in baseball terms. But despite all this going for him, Grandal settled for a one-year deal.

The switch-hitter offers rare power and patience at the catcher position. Over the past four seasons, his walk rate of 12.8 percent ranks 19th among all MLB batters. His .453 slugging mark ranks third among all qualified catchers, and his 116 weighted runs created plus, a measure of offensive ability that adjusts for park and run-scoring environments,1 trails only Gary Sanchez and Buster Posey.”

https://fivethirtyeight.com/fe...-keep-finding-deals/

Remember, he played his home games at Dodger Stadium, where fly balls go to die, and still managed to Jack 24 balls into the seats.

When you combine his pitch framing ability, his power (and switch hitting ability), and his walk rate, Grandal’s signing is an absolutely major addition. He’s one of the top three catchers in baseball.

rw23 (see link in the first article I referenced) projects Grandal to hit .247 with 27 HR and an .842 OPS for the Brewers.

 

 

Last edited by lambeausouth

It's going to be fun watching CC adjust lineups on a day-to-day basis. I also hope this means that Shaw and Aguilar function as almost a straight platoon at first. Shaw is downright horrible against lefties and methinks Aguilar is more of a combo of the first and second halves last year rather than than the Aguilar of the first half.

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