Z Effin' Smith, Amos and P Effin' Smith!

CUPackFan posted:

I love the Amos and Z Smith signings.  I think both were underrated players that signed for pretty fair deals if they perform like they did last year.  I actually didn't know much about Preston SMith but I've read good things.  It seems like all three players are more "substance over stats" guys, which seems like what you want to do in free agency (rather than chase the guy who has a career stat year going into free agency). 

But not a fan of the Billy Turner signing.  He was just a guy in Denver.  My guess is that the Packers were sick of having no depth so they overpaid for a guy that can play RT, RG and LG.  Sounds like he'll play RG but at least it gives them flexibility when Bulaga gets hurt.  But $7m per year is a lot for a guy that was pretty average in Denver.  

Don't think Broncos felt that way, but Green Bay outbid them.

I was surprised at the money Billy Turner got but the plan has to be for him to start G and rotate outside WHEN Bulaga goes down.  I expect GB to snag 1 or 2 OL in the draft to build depth for a change.

I think the gem of FA is going to be Preston Smith.  He’s a very underrated player and gets heat on the QB.  Z. Smith was solid and Amos should be a steady player on the back end.  

Overall, I think Gute hit a homerun in FA and I expect him to add another player or two still.  

I like the Turner signing.
He's bound to beat out Spriggs and/or Bell, and if they wash all the way out, their salary can pay for his.
I'm hoping between this and the draft, we can clear out the backwash along the OL. Murphy, Patrick, Spriggs, McCray, and that Kofi guy all have a few years in the league, and even some starting experience, so it's time for them to either crap or get off the pot. I'm not looking for any of them to become starters, but I'd expect them to be rock-solid backups. Whoever loses out didn't need to be there.

Timmy! posted:

I like the Turner signing.
He's bound to beat out Spriggs and/or Bell, and if they wash all the way out, their salary can pay for his.
I'm hoping between this and the draft, we can clear out the backwash along the OL. Murphy, Patrick, Spriggs, McCray, and that Kofi guy all have a few years in the league, and even some starting experience, so it's time for them to either crap or get off the pot. I'm not looking for any of them to become starters, but I'd expect them to be rock-solid backups. Whoever loses out didn't need to be there.

And he will probably beat out Cole Madison too.

Timmy! posted:

I like the Turner signing.
He's bound to beat out Spriggs and/or Bell, and if they wash all the way out, their salary can pay for his.
I'm hoping between this and the draft, we can clear out the backwash along the OL. Murphy, Patrick, Spriggs, McCray, and that Kofi guy all have a few years in the league, and even some starting experience, so it's time for them to either crap or get off the pot. I'm not looking for any of them to become starters, but I'd expect them to be rock-solid backups. Whoever loses out didn't need to be there.

Could not agree more.

Now, there is always the risk that Turner may not pan out, but it is great to see that at least Gutey is aware of and actively trying fix that gaping hole at RG.

It makes no sense to ignore that hole or to hope the right player falls to GB in the draft, especially when anyone drafted will likely take some time to develop.

GB being proactive during free agency at edge, Safety, and RG also really opens the possibilities for the upcoming draft. Who knew free agency could be our friend.

SteveLuke posted:
Timmy! posted:

I like the Turner signing.
He's bound to beat out Spriggs and/or Bell, and if they wash all the way out, their salary can pay for his.
I'm hoping between this and the draft, we can clear out the backwash along the OL. Murphy, Patrick, Spriggs, McCray, and that Kofi guy all have a few years in the league, and even some starting experience, so it's time for them to either crap or get off the pot. I'm not looking for any of them to become starters, but I'd expect them to be rock-solid backups. Whoever loses out didn't need to be there.

Could not agree more.

Now, there is always the risk that Turner may not pan out, but it is great to see that at least Gutey is aware of and actively trying fix that gaping hole at RG.

It makes no sense to ignore that hole or to hope the right player falls to GB in the draft, especially when anyone drafted will likely take some time to develop.

GB being proactive during free agency at edge, Safety, and RG also really opens the possibilities for the upcoming draft. Who knew free agency could be our friend.

Yep it can be your friend as a team and damn is it nice having Gute running the show being aggressive and working to get things fixed.  The best part is that I would bet he isn't done yet.

Just in case anyone forgot what Jason Spriggs looks like on a field. 

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Anyone that thinks Turner isn't an upgrade over Spriggs has NFI what they're talking about. The bar is set pretty low.

Henry posted:

I think if Turner was overpaid it was due to necessity.  If he's a JAG that doesn't get trucked on every play that's an upgrade.

Necessity plus also a very weak FA class for tackles.  Still, the tackle depth that was so desperately needed is now there.

CUPackFan posted:

But not a fan of the Billy Turner signing.  He was just a guy in Denver.  My guess is that the Packers were sick of having no depth so they overpaid for a guy that can play RT, RG and LG.  Sounds like he'll play RG but at least it gives them flexibility when Bulaga gets hurt.  But $7m per year is a lot for a guy that was pretty average in Denver.  

This was my feeling as well. They don't want to count on Spriggs/Murphy/Patrick/McCray if the draft doesn't go their way. O-line in free agency is very weak this year. 

49ers did exactly what we did, adding two 3-4 pass rushers. Don't know enough about Kwon Alexander to compare him and Dee Ford to Z'Daruis and Preston Smith, guess which pair is better, but I'm just glad we didn't have to give up a second round pick (even if it was a 2020 that the 49ers gave the Chiefs). What do you guys think?

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Interesting how some of the national pundits are talking up the HaHa headed to Chicago story.  I've seen high grades and glowing reviews from some of these dudes.  Do they even watch football?

Look... you can do worse that HCD having patrol the back end of a defense, but I'm a bit miffed why some think this was a great move.  I suppose it's possible that HCD looks much better than he actually is playing on that defense though.

Pakrz posted:

At the money GB signed Billy Turner for, if he is anything less than an average starter he will be a major disappointment.  I don't like or dislike the move, but he had better be more than a decent swing backup at the price.

When Spriggs and Murphy are the bar, a swing backup looks like Tony Boselli.

I got no problems with him spending the money on Turner. Salaries escalate every year...what seems like overpaying now will seem like a great value in 4 years.

When you swing and miss as much as the Packers on OL in the draft, you have to take risks if you want to win now. I also believe Uncle Milty had some input in this decision. That makes me a lot more confident.

Pakrz posted:

True... but I'm sure GB could get a Billy Turner in R4 if they wanted one. 

I'll throw my trust in Gute and the boys, but that signing looks a bit different than the other ones to me. 

Sure they could.  They could also draft a Jason Spriggs or a Cole Madison.

The draft is a crapshoot (or so I've heard).  Nothing wrong with the Turner signing IMO.

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