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Injuries:
TomSilverstein
Guys who are out: RB Du'ane Bennett, WR Dale Moss, WR Tori Gurley, WR Greg Jennings, OT Marshall Newhouse, TE DJ Williams

WesHod
Sam Shields down after laying a shoulder into Alex Green on team drill

RobDemovsky
Trainer Kurt Fielding has taken Sam Shields inside. Looks like left shoulder.

Atmoshpere:
MikeVandermause
80 degrees in Green Bay. With nice breeze, the conditions are perfect for #Packers practice.

MikeVandermause
Recount on attendance estimate: 2000. Another 'sellout' crowd and then some. Fans quite lively tonight.

Lining Up:
RobDemovsky
House is in the base and nickel. Bush in the dime

MikeVandermause
Rookies on No. 1 punt return: Hayward, McMillian, Sean Richardson.

TomSilverstein
Not seeing much AJ Hawk tonight. DJ Smith, Francois, Lattimore and Manning getting the snaps in nickel.

TomSilverstein
Said before that Hawk isn't getting any snaps in nickel. Bishop isn't either. They're looking at young guys who will play a lot at SD

Skills abd Drills:
TomSilverstein
Some great 1 on 1s between DBs and WRs earlier.

TomSilverstein
Best one was Cobb making two hard cuts with Bush all over him and then catching a back shoulder fro Harrell as Bush fell down.

TomSilverstein
On another Woodson held James Jones so much you would have thought they were married.

WesHod
Fans getting 'jazzy' as QBs work on deep pass net drills. Coleman caps it with an ace

In the Trenches:
MikeVandermause
Datko holds off Worthy. Maybe rookie OT making progress.

TomSilverstein
Just finished watching linemen 1 on 1s. Give Andrew Datko credit, he's battling. Much improved today.

PeteDougherty
Draheim best day of 1on1s, 3-0 with clear wins over Wynn at LT, Hargrove at RT n worthy

Bishop Brings It:
TyDunne
Desmond Bishop picks off Harrell. Making a lot of noise in two practices.

jasonjwilde
Bishop with terrific diving INT of Harrell pass intended for Crabtree in 11-on-11. Great drop, read, reaction, hands. Impressive.

RobDemovsky
And Bishop follows that with a sack on next play

No-Huddle:
TyDunne
In no huddle, D.J. Smith chases down Rodgers for a sack on third and 6.

WesHod
Rodgers hits Finley over Hayward for TD from 10 out. Then tip toe catch by Nelson with House in coverage

MikeVandermause
Driver with rare drop on slant over middle from Rodgers.

WesHod
Driver comes right back with 20 yard TD catch over Burnett

2Pt Conversion Drill:
WesHod
Rodgers looking for Driver on 2 pt drill, almost picked by Tramon who jumped route

MikeVandermause
Rodgers had Nelson open in end zone but threw it at his feet on 2 point conversion.

RobDemovsky
Coleman gets the only successful 2 pt play. 1-for-6 by the offense

Odds and Ends:

TyDunne
Jarrett Bush anticipated Cobb's stop and go, stayed with 18, turned but couldn't make play on the ball.

MikeVandermause
Practice ends after 1 hour 44 minutes. Shortest of camp.
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You know, this could be the end of Shields' time in Green Bay.
I wouldn't have believed it over the last year or so; I certainly didn't want to, but his regression last year and so far this year may have lost him his starting role. I think it's a safe bet to say that his playing time would've been reduced, because our young guys are ready to step up.
Now that the injury has happened, they may blow right by him, putting him far enough behind that he will never be able to catch up to them.
It's sad too; he had a wonderful story.
Judging from all the different camp reports I've read, I think the Packers coaches still think more highly of Shields than most fans do (based on this camp). I'm sure they see a lot of the same struggles we see. Thing is that's ALL we know is what we've seen or read about his performances at practice. We don't know what kind of process the coaches have set up for him in teaching him the nuances of playing pro DB. Maybe he's been focusing a lot more on fundamentals and learning the intricacies of the playbook better. Once his baseline is high enough he'll be much better at making plays that look like consistent and reliable DB play. Everyone knows he has the talent, he just has to catch up with his knowledge and experience. Look how long it took for Tramon to break out.

The bar was set too high in fans' minds after 2010. He was playing a limited roll surrounded by Tramon, Woodson, Collins and Peprah. His responsibilities were minimal which allowed him the freedom to gamble a little more because he knew the other guys were doing their job. Then last year D coordinators had tape on him (could identify his weaknesses) and he also had much more responsibility (with Tramon hurt and Collins gone), requiring him to actually play like a full-on pro DB. He wasn't prepared for that. And now he's in his 3rd full year EVER of playing the position. He's got to want it to make it though.
great, now Shields did as he was told and tried to tackle someone and got hurt. I'm sensing the possibility of a new matador in town...

went to practice last nite. pretty low key affair all around it seemed - did MM work them hard Sat & Sun? didn't come away with much other than Muir's got a great motor and pop and I'll bet Greg Van Roten (UFA Guard) makes at least the practice squad.
Photography:
Green Bay Press Gazette Photos From Monday's Practice

Insider: Bishop impresses in return to action
Green Bay Press Gazette

by Rob Demovsky on Monday, August 6th, 2012
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β€œI think he would clearly classify as one of our better pressure players,” McCarthy said. β€œSo you definitely feel the impact when he’s on the field. It’s great to have him back. He’s one of our veteran guys. He has a complete understanding of the defense. He’s an excellent base and sub player.”continue
Past the click, Rob Demovsky has more detailed practice information and a funny moment from MM's Presser.

Notebook: Banged-up roster prompts shortened practice
Green Bay Press Gazette

by Pete Dougherty on Monday, August 6th, 2012
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McCarthy installs his offense, defense and special-teams in nine practices, so Monday night was the final installation.

The Packers play the Chargers on Thursday night, and McCarthy ruled out eight players for the game: running back Du’uane Bennett (knee), guard Ray Dominguez (ankle), receiver Tori Gurley (groin), fullback Jon Hoese (hamstring), receiver Greg Jennings (concussion), tight end Eric Lair (knee), tackle Mike McCabe (hip) and tight end Ryan Taylor (concussion).
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Past the click, Pete Dougherty has Graham Harrell beginning to master a certain type of throw and Mason Crosby talking about the wind in Lambeau and how he plans to prepare for it.

Packers DE Mike Neal says he's healthy, but 4-game suspension prevents him from playing
Green Bay Press Gazette

by Rob Demovsky on Monday, August 6th, 2012
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It might be easier for Trgovac and the Packers if Hargrove and Neal were struggling through practices and didn’t warrant snaps. But that hasn’t been the case.

The 6-foot-3, 294-pound Neal has flashed some of the power that the Packers fell in love with before the 2010 draft.

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β€œI feel good regardless of what’s happened in the past,” Neal said. β€œI get chills, as you can see, because I’ve never felt like this. I’m in a position where people look at me like, β€˜Oh, he’s not going to do anything,’ and I just feel good. I’m moving faster than I ever have. I feel way more explosive than I’ve ever been, and it’s beneficial to me.”
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Past the click, Rob Demovsky has; more from Neal describing his plans to keep in shape during his susupension , Defensive Line Coach Mike Trgovac talking about how he's dealing with Neal and Hargrove, Hargrove with new information about his suspension. Well worth the click.

Jeff Saturday commands respect every day of the week
Green Bay Press Gazette

by Mike Vandermause on Monday, August 6th, 2012
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In attempting to learn a new offense after 13 seasons in Indianapolis, Saturday has bombarded the linemen with questions. While pretending to get irritated, they have gained a healthy respect for their grizzled new teammate.

β€œHe came in the first day in meetings back in April and really made it a point to get to know everybody,” said Lang. β€œI think that shows what kind of leader he is, what kind of guy he is. He likes to make friendships. He’s a very likable guy.” continue
Past the click, Mike Vandermause has quotes from Saturday on Rodgers, why he chose the Packers, and the differences between practice in Indy and practice in GB.
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Remember when we all laughed at Bishop, because he said he was one of the better ILBs in the league? Remember?


No. He stood out every chance he got when he was a backup.. A lot of people were calling for him to replace Hawk at the time (This guy). His first game of significant PT, I think it was against CHG, didn't go to well. After that, he just made plays.
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Originally posted by BrainDed:

No. He stood out every chance he got when he was a backup..


yes and no

Bishop was beaten badly a couple of times, being out of position. And the vikes spanked Bishop good on a swing pass that he couldn't cover

Bishop showed flashes of playmaking, followed by brain farts and that's why the coaches were hesitant in starting him early on. Once he played more, the consistency went way up

GB defensive coaches have shown a tendency to favor consistency over a few splash plays & a few brain farts and that may be why they have stuck with AJ instead of DJ Smith so far
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Originally posted by Goalline:
Remember when we all laughed at Bishop, because he said he was one of the better ILBs in the league? Remember?

But back then, if I recall correctly, it was a different defense. In the 4-3, Bishops lack of top LB speed and pass coverage skill was exposed. In the 3-4 they have been letting him rush from the inside and as he played, his other skills improved - along with his confidence. I agree with Satori in that respect.
I thought this article by Tyler Dunne from last year was exceptional. It was about when Desmond turned the corner.

Linebacker Bishop keeps focus on being the best
jsonline.com

by Tyler Dunne on Aug. 23, 2011
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His chance seemed to come in 2008. Barnett went down with a torn anterior cruciate ligament in Week 10. But what did coaches do? They plugged Brandon Chillar in next to A.J. Hawk.

"When they didn't put me in, I didn't know what to do," Bishop admitted.

There was only one thing he could do - settle for the scout team. It's easy to blow those in-season practices off. Many backups "absolutely" coast through scout team, Bishop said. He'd know. He was one of them.

Everything changed one practice when Bishop lackadaisically jogged off the field. Standing nearby, inside linebackers coach Winston Moss snapped. There was never a man-to-man meeting behind closed doors. Moss, an NFL veteran of 11 years, blistered Bishop right there.

"He basically just told me, 'Do it or go home,' " Bishop said.

On a dime, Bishop started taking practice seriously. Back in his junior college days, before playing at the University of California, Bishop was a runaway freight train at practice. City College of San Francisco head coach George Rush needed to pull the reins on Bishop daily.

"For two reasons," Rush said. "It wasn't a live drill, but he's coming at full blast. You want to protect the guy he's chasing as well as him. He has a rare passion for the game."

That Bishop - the monster, the self-righteous one destined to be a legend - resurfaced in Year 3 with the Packers.

His competitiveness was back. Bishop brushed away defensive backs to cover wide receivers Donald Driver and Greg Jennings himself.

His rage was channeled. Bishop jawed with tight end Jermichael Finley regularly. Whenever receivers did beat Bishop, cornerback Jarrett Bush says he'd "throw temper tantrums."

And most of all, his focus was back. Each week, Bishop embraced the scout team. He asked linemen how they wanted him to pursue stretch plays. He asked quarterbacks how they wanted him to move. Bishop relished playing the role of E.J. Henderson, Stewart Bradley, Lance Briggs. An archaeologist, excavating various parts of each player's game, Bishop improved.

"He'll say, 'If this gives an offensive guy trouble, I'll take that and incorporate parts I need into my skill set,' " Moss said.
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Past the click on that one Bishop has some quotes that reveal his drive. It's great to see he's terrorizing the offense in practice. He's the one guy who can really set the physical tone for the defense.
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Originally posted by Satori:
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Originally posted by BrainDed:

No. He stood out every chance he got when he was a backup..


yes and no

Bishop was beaten badly a couple of times, being out of position. And the vikes spanked Bishop good on a swing pass that he couldn't cover

Bishop showed flashes of playmaking, followed by brain farts and that's why the coaches were hesitant in starting him early on. Once he played more, the consistency went way up

GB defensive coaches have shown a tendency to favor consistency over a few splash plays & a few brain farts and that may be why they have stuck with AJ instead of DJ Smith so far


Vikings.. That swing pass was what I was thinking about when I mentioned his first game against CHG..

I agree with your assessment on the coaches tendencies.
Green Bay Packers Training Camp: Notes, Thoughts, and Observations Practice 11
acmepackingcompany.com

by PackApologist
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Biggest surprise of the night - Defensive linemen rushing out of a two point stance.
This is something I've noticed here and there, but really struck me tonight. On more than one occasion I watched Mike Neal work from a two point stance in the 1-on-1 pass protection drills. I'm not sure if this is part of plan as a part of a "Psycho" package, personal preference, or some weird and unknown injury, but there it was. I've also noticed Jerel Worthy do this a few times as well. All I know is that I'm planning on watching for this tendency in some preseason games to get a better context of what is going on with it. continue
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Originally posted by Satori:
That's quite a gold medal team you've assembled for the Special Olympics Goalline, good luck

Team Name ? how about "The Dirty Rugs" ( since they always get beaten)


Sure, thanks for offending the worlds dirty rugs. Collectively our IQs do not match that of the dirtiest of rugs, although I did meet a pretty stupid Persian once..

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