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My off-season prediction:
Zook will be the 2nd-most cussed out coach on the staff.
First for me. I no longer curse Dan Compers, just shake my head in silence.
Zook just needs to have the opponents playbook faxed to him to have success.
If nothing changes. Meaning AR and MM finish their time in GB with one Lombardi. Is it fair to look at Mike's fierce loyalty to the coaches on his staff as a considerable factor that prevented GB from more titles? The majority of fans were critical of Slocumb long before the 2014 title game. Fans weren't wrong but probably never thought the ST would completely melt down at the worst possible time. Zook is no savior and honestly not much of an upgrade. Moss, Capers, letting Clements hang around and surf the web for a year.
MM and AR may very well win another Lombardi. They may win a few more. You always have a shot with the best QB in football.
But I do think it's fair to ask if Mike's loyalty to the staff is making the team (specifically AR) work a lot harder than maybe they have to.
Zook is a fine coach, the only problem is:
he needs time to implement his scheme
cant expect quality special teams with all the injuries
too many rookies
not enogh high draft picks
cant make chicken salad with chicken ****
he cant go out there and punt for them
the offense scores to quick, special teams don't have enough time to rest
mcstupidface trusts him, so we should all shut up
who you gonna replace him with?
Players, not plays
what special teams coach out there really gets more out of less?
I think we need a thread to discuss these points in greater detail.
Do they really need a ball with points on it for special teams?
El-Keston-Hiura posted:Zook is a fine coach, the only problem is:
he needs time to implement his scheme
cant expect quality special teams with all the injuries
too many rookies
not enogh high draft picks
cant make chicken salad with chicken ****
he cant go out there and punt for them
the offense scores to quick, special teams don't have enough time to rest
mcstupidface trusts him, so we should all shut up
who you gonna replace him with?
Players, not plays
what special teams coach out there really gets more out of less?
A 3 step process for fixing the GBP special teams.
1 - never punt
2 - score only TD's
3 - always kick it through the EZ
"Never forget to be ready for a fake in Seattle "
I think you meant to say "he turned that prospect into a failure". Wizards disguise things.
Goalline posted:Whoa, he turned that orb into a ladle.
Is that what Trump did with the Orb in Saudi?
Elliot, Goodson and Janis! were the best cover/tackling guys. Janis! is currently holding down a WR spot that is reported to have lots of competition. I can see Elliot playing less ST's and Goodson gone. Davis is too small to be an effective gunner and messed up on punt returns. We have new punter and long snapper. Cobb can return punts but probably wont. Same with Monty on KR's. There are a lot of new faces on the team and some of the vets have moved up to be starters. I really have no clear idea of who does what this year. Training camps and cutdown will help make things more clear. Zook is back and we have had worse as ST's coach.
So right now its a big "I don't know" from me.
Biegel and Jones would seem to be good special teams additions, Williams may also. The return jobs would seem to be wide open, though I'm guessing the rookie backs and receivers will get a metric crap ton of reps there in training camp with Davis and even Janis! also. It wouldn't surprise me if they go to camp with two kickers and/or two punters for reps for the young guys.
I can see Janis! Returning kick offs like forest Gump (or a faster Najeh Davenport), but I cannot fathom him returning punts. I'm also guessing the coaches, who see Janis! All the time have no desire to see him back there.
With competition at so many spots, special teams can give some of these guys, particularly UFDAs, an edge to make the 53.
Special Teams are called "special" because they have "special" problems. It is really that simple.
El-Keston-Hiura posted:I can see Janis! Returning kick offs like forest Gump (or a faster Najeh Davenport), but I cannot fathom him returning punts. I'm also guessing the coaches, who see Janis! All the time have no desire to see him back there.
And for good reason. Assuming he runs like FG, he will run right out of the stadium. The team would be out a player, a complete uniform, and a game ball for which they might have to compensate the NFL for. It doesn't take an accountant to figure this one out.
Fair points.
Does Janis! Still get to meet the president?
Janis! would struggle getting open as a punt returner.
Janis will be the punt returner when he perfects face catches
GBFanForLife posted:Janis will be the punt returner when he perfects face catches
Ask Davis about punt returns. He was not good. I wonder if MM would allow Cobb to risk being a PR again?
I always felt comfortable with the racist returning punts. He was a natural at catching them. Never bobbled them to the point you ever worried about him being back there. He couldn't do **** with the ball after he caught it. Probably why Zook loved him.
Hyde was Antonio Chatman re-born: reliable, safe, and about as exciting as dry white toast.
Can Janis! lock down a roster spot as a gunner/primary kickoff returner and number x (where x = final receiver on the roster)? That's three Special Teams and "Well, I guess I have to throw it to somebody else".
To me, Janis plays recklessly. That works well on kick coverage units and for Hail Mary's.
if only we could go back to the halcyon days of Mike Prior returning punts
Hungry5 posted:To me, Janis plays recklessly. That works well on kick coverage units and for Hail Mary's.
Wrecklessly on Kickoffs sounds good to me. Kickoffs are a wreck waiting to happen anyway. Just don't fumble the ball!
El-Keston-Hiura posted:if only we could go back to the halcyon days of Mike Prior returning punts
Dude fair-caught better than anybody else in history.
Willie would run.
Sorry.
Wood you be?
Sorry.
El-Keston-Hiura posted:Fair points.
Does Janis! Still get to meet the president?
Missed this - sorry. The answer is yes if he stops running long enough - I don't think Trump has 4.30 speed.