I may not be ready to throw the towel in on Love yet, but I do have it in my hand.
I’m glad it’s not just me that thinks Love isn’t worth the draft pick we spent on him
I have zero doubt they will hang onto Love until he comes up against the contract. Can't imagine there isn't ego at play at this point.
Love should be a more useful pick than Love.
@fightphoe93 posted:In the small sample size we’ve seen of Love, he has all the characteristics of QBs who are unsuccessful in the NFL. Poor feel for the pass rush, not accurate under pressure, has below average instincts compared to starter level NFL QBs. His strong arm isn’t “special” enough to make up for his other faults.
I have to believe coming out of this season, if Rodgers doesn’t come back, they’d have no choice but to look for a legitimate veteran QB the likes of a Case Keenum, Ryan FitzPatrick, Andy Dalton, other flunkees etc. etc. I’m not convinced that Love would be better than those bums and he’d possibly be worse.
Spot on assessment. Wonder if the FO feels the same though.
@Pikes Peak posted:Did you fly the right flag?
Yes, and am taking it down now, 
@FLPACKER posted:Ironic that Gute pulled a "Rodgers" and wanted to be the smartest guy in the room by thinking he knew something that no one else did.
I still don't mind the pick. He took a shot and was wrong, when being wrong had low consequences (he still had Rodgers). It happens.
Way different than something like mortgaging the franchise for a player like Trubisky because you had f'n Mike Glennon and had no choice.
Well, if Rodgers decides that he only re-signs if they dump Love (and I don't think he would do that) then Love is gone.
After today I pray Amari Rodgers is a healthy scratch for the playoffs and even next year.
Regarding Love…could be worse…we could have spent the 5th overall on Tagavailoa over Hebert.
The drama in Baltimore vs Pitt is amazing.
@PackerHawk posted:Well, if Rodgers decides that he only re-signs if they dump Love (and I don't think he would do that) then Love is gone.
No reason for him to request they dump Love….zero chance he ever replaces 12 at this juncture.
FO needs a capable backup….right now 10 is a 3rd string developmental guy at best.
It is hard to blame Love for the first INT, but...his lack of feel for pressure in those last two drives was not encouraging...especially that last throw...blah....
@Chongo posted:No reason for him to request they dump Love….zero chance he ever replaces 12 at this juncture.
FO needs a capable backup….right now 10 is a 3rd string developmental guy at best.
Like I said, I don't think he's doing that. But if he actually had a problem with Love and wanted him gone, he gone.
@PackerHawk posted:Well, if Rodgers decides that he only re-signs if they dump Love (and I don't think he would do that) then Love is gone.
He won't need to. If Rodgers re-signs, it means GB has decided Love is a short timer.
@PackerHawk posted:Like I said, I don't think he's doing that. But if he actually had a problem with Love and wanted him gone, he gone.
Rodgers can be a salty bitch but he doesn't strike me as a guy who would have a problem with Love...at all.
Obviously it's a QB driven league but I could never figure out teams reaching for some of these guys that get pushed up the board. Why not build your oline and skill players until you get a QB that you believe is a difference maker?
We care who wins Rams - Niners?
Preference who we'd like to be in the 4th spot?
I'd like to see the Rams win to knock out the Whiners. Give the Saints the last WC spot.
So we get lowest remaining seed - > 5th-7th if any upsets, otherwise 4th seed
@MichiganPacker2 posted:Is DeGuara in blackface?
I'm thinking there's a full moon tonite.
@vitaflo posted:I still don't mind the pick. He took a shot and was wrong, when being wrong had low consequences (he still had Rodgers). It happens.
Way different than something like mortgaging the franchise for a player like Trubisky because you had f'n Mike Glennon and had no choice.
No one should ever be wrong in the draft. I mean, it has never happened. Oh, and most QBs with one game under their belts have it all figured out. They should be undefeated. I mean the guy he is replacing went undefeated in his first season. Wait, he was 6-10? Hmm!
What I said weekend of the draft in 2020.
@Timpranillo posted:This move was probably a year earlier than you'd really want, but if you truly believe Love is a franchise guy, it makes all the sense in the world. Personally, I don't, but I'm not an NFL talent evaluator. I think his ceiling is Jay Cutler - looks the part, has the arm, but makes back breaking killer mistakes far too often.
I'm not even sure anymore that his ceiling approaches Cutler...
Hopefully AR and the Packers come to agreement that allows him to retire a Packer in 4+ years and we never have to find out.
@Tschmack posted:Jordan Love and Amari Rodgers are two of the more perplexing and disappointing draft picks in recent history. And don’t get me started on Oren Burks.
The defense was awful today. Loved to see Bak and Myers back, but they need Jaire and Z back in the worst way. Especially Jaire, because outside of Douglas and Stokes our DBs can’t pass cover for shit.
Amari Rodgers was everyone’s favorite draft pick this year. I don’t know what you are talking about.
Rodgers is a rookie, he has time. I have more faith he will develop into what we need more than Love.
@vitaflo posted:Or gave up 3 picks to move up one spot to pick Trubisky 2nd overall over Mahomes.
And who expected Mac Jones to be by far the best QB out of this years draft class?
To be fair, Jones also walked into - BY FAR - the best situation of any of the early QBs. Established coach, good line/RBs/TEs, very good defense are all things most rookie 1s don't get.
yeah....I was truly excited about the Amari Rodgers pick this year and truly upset about the Aj Dillon pick last year....so, yes.....
In watching the highlights of this game..again highlights---Love had the two game killing errors, missing St Brown and the last pick. It is kind of a 'other than that Mrs Lincoln, how'd you like the play?' scenario---but.... otherwise he was solid, the first pick was a great play by Reeves Maybin, Davis misses a beautifully placed TD and the 2 point conversion throw to Amari Rodgers had low probability, but it was all he had and he put it where it could be caught. I remember Both Farve and Rodgers' first opportunities were far superior to Love, but thru Rodgers' first 2 seasons the report was that he was not playing at first round potential.
Certainly Love has not given anybody reason to think letting Rodgers go is the thing to do, but what QB could stack up against the MVP?
@Johnson posted:It is hard to blame Love for the first INT, but...his lack of feel for pressure in those last two drives was not encouraging...especially that last throw...blah....
1. The sack on his first full series was even worse. M. Lewis was blocking on the edge and forced the edge rusher to run a long way around him. Love literally has 6-8 yards of clean pocket in front of him, and he fails to move up at all.
2. Just as bad was the second play of the second to last drive. They tried that screen and Taylor got tripped up for a 1 yard gain. It was a quick screen, so it wasn't like any WRs had run go routes and had to get back from 50 yards downfield. Everyone got lined up and then everyone sat still for another 10 seconds while Love did...something? Maybe waiting for the play? It was clear he didn't really have a feel for what to do in a 2-minute drill. They went 31 seconds between plays.
Often players need time to develop. And I understand giving new players a break. But I don’t see any particular skill set to develop from AmRodgers or Love. For Amari it might be a rookie thing, yet he had all season to correct that. He looks hesitant. Love has some arm strength, yet Jordan is not that accurate so that means nothing.
After today I have given all hope that Love will ever be a quality QB. He looks scared & plays the same way. Even in high school &/or college ball if a player doesn't love playing & hitting they can't enjoy playing.
What’s interesting (yet not surprising) is that David got tired. https://packerswire.usatoday.c...ebut-due-to-fatigue/
Here's a positive. Packers had won 5 games in a row. If they beat the Loins to win the Superb Owl they would have to run the streak to 9. How many teams do that? Also, when you win all the time, some mistakes and poor play gets poo pooed over. Now MLF has a fire up his ass to carry through the bye week. Just what this team needs during the layoff.
So yea we didn’t necessarily care about this game, but isn’t anyone concerned how our starting defensive squad played in the first half… against the Lions? Not exactly the showing you want going into a loaded NFC playoffs.
One silver lining is that Lions exposed a weakness on the "trick" plays that hopefully we can correct ... better it is exposed now.
Concerned, not too much. No Campbell, Kenny Clark hardly played. Not sure how many snaps Rashan Gary played. The rest of the starters really didn't want to hit too hard either. Getting Alexander back will be huge knocking King out of the line up.
@Johnson posted:yeah....I was truly excited about the Amari Rodgers pick this year and truly upset about the Aj Dillon pick last year....so, yes.....
In watching the highlights of this game..again highlights---Love had the two game killing errors, missing St Brown and the last pick. It is kind of a 'other than that Mrs Lincoln, how'd you like the play?' scenario---but.... otherwise he was solid, the first pick was a great play by Reeves Maybin, Davis misses a beautifully placed TD and the 2 point conversion throw to Amari Rodgers had low probability, but it was all he had and he put it where it could be caught. I remember Both Farve and Rodgers' first opportunities were far superior to Love, but thru Rodgers' first 2 seasons the report was that he was not playing at first round potential.
Certainly Love has not given anybody reason to think letting Rodgers go is the thing to do, but what QB could stack up against the MVP?
I don't expect him to compare to the MVP but he looks completely lost out there. He should at least look better than Hundley after being with the team for 2 full years no??