@TomSilverstein: #Packers strength and conditioning coach Chris Gizzi has been fired, according to two league sources. Gizzi was a S and C assistant from 2014-‘18 and was promoted to his current job when Matt LaFleur became head coach. Gizzi played for the team in 2000-‘01.
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I was thinking, hey isn't he the flag guy?
LaFleur and Gutekunst not wasting time on trying to improve the team.
Peter Bukowski said an NFL source suggested that the Packers are behind the times when it comes to treatment of injuries. I'm curious what that means, exactly. The Packers are uber-cautious with bringing guys back - that's been a standard. But are they just not knowledgeable of new or better treatments for injuries (e.g., soft-tissue)?
With the amount of hamstring injuries, the entire team should be doing yoga and ballet...LOL....I know it sounds funny but the stretching really helps avoid these types of soft tissue injuries.
Goat yoga! Plenty of goats in the area.
They're still using leech therapy
"Look, doc! My leg is busted and popping out of my sock in three different places!"
"Eh, rub a little dirt on it. And by the way, you'll have to pay for that sock."
HE SAID “WE’RE” 😭😭😭🥺🥺🥺🥺 https://t.co/Knoe4XjcDA
— CheeseheadTV 🧀 (@cheeseheadtv) January 25, 2024
@antiworst posted:They're still using leech therapy
Not sure they're even that advanced. You'd think they'd have managed to drain Bak's knee if they had leech technology.
@Boris posted:HE SAID “WE’RE” 😭😭😭🥺🥺🥺🥺 https://t.co/Knoe4XjcDA
— CheeseheadTV 🧀 (@cheeseheadtv) January 25, 2024
We're as in Green Bay or was he referring to when he signs with the Jets?
Wow. No room at the inn for Belichick?
@AdamSchefter: Falcons plan to hire Rams’ defensive coordinator Raheem Morris as their head coach, per sources.
BORIS!!!! It's gonna happen!!!! 
Belichek probably wanted Rich McKay gone. Arthur loves Richie...
@D J posted:He probably wanted more power than Blank was willing to give.
MLF should be calling him now; Bill, the defense is yours.
Belichick is reported to really want to catch Shula for the all-time wins record, but it's just not realistic at this point. He needs 27 more wins and that would take him 4-5 years to get there with the types of jobs that he'd probably get. He'll be 72 before the season starts. The only one probably in play for Belichick next year is Dallas when MM inevitably gets fired. Would Belichick co-exist with Jerry Jone? Doubtful, buy maybe they both get desperate enough.
I think he sits out for a year and hopes for something like the Dallas job next year, but I think he is most likely done. I just don't see him coming back and being an assistant for anyone. No head coach that has ever won a Super Bowl has come back as an assistant to another head coach. No coach in their right mind is going to want the most successful coach in NFL history to be their defensive coordinator. Belichick is as Machiavellian as they come. It would be a coup waiting to happen every week.
I think in the end what will burn Belichick more than anything is that, even as successful as he's been, and clearly one the greatest defensive coordinators/defensive minds ever, is that he couldn't win anything without Brady.
In the years he coached without Tom Brady as his starting QB (Browns, 2000 Patriots, 2006 Patriots when Brady got hurt in the first game, 2015 first four games with Brady suspension, and then post-Brady) his regular season record was 85-98. He won one playoff game without Brady - in January of 1995 as the coach of the Browns. In the 10 seasons as head coach without Brady as his starter he mades the playoffs twice.
Brady's record without Belichick as a head coach was 32-18 regular season, 5-2 in in the playoffs, and made the playoffs 3 of 3 years.
Belichick's assistants all were terrible head coaches elsewhere.
His legacy will be as the greatest defensive coach of all time who succeeded as a head coach only when he had the best QB of all time.
I just knew something was up in Atlanta when they said Belichick was getting a "2nd interview" like..... Wut?! 🤓
Joe Barry had 6:21 left in the 4th QTR to save his job up 4 against a 1 seed as a 7 seed on the road as a 7.5 point dog
instead of throwing the Kitchen Sink at a QB that had completed 57% of his passes to that point he went full turtle and MLF let it happen for 5 full minutes.
Im still not over last week. It’s gonna be a while. Fuck Barry and Fuck MLF for having his back way longer than he should have.
@ChilliJon posted:Joe Barry had 6:21 left in the 4th QTR to save his job up 4 against a 1 seed as a 7 seed on the road as a 7.5 point dog
instead of throwing the Kitchen Sink at a QB that had completed 57% of his passes to that point he went full turtle and MLF let it happen for 5 full minutes.
Im still not over last week. It’s gonna be a while. Fuck Barry and Fuck MLF for having his back way longer than he should have.
If GB throws the kitchen sink at SF with 6:21 left and the Niners score a quick TD that would not have been ideal.
However, the Packers would still have plenty of time to come back on offense.
If GB throws the kitchen sink at SF with 6:21 and forces the Niners to punt or even better into a turnover that would have been ideal.
The absolute worst approach, and outcome, would have been to sit back cautiously and let SF take time off the clock while marching down the field. And that is precisely the approach Joe Barry took -- hoping Purdy would fold rather than asking his defensive players to make a play.
Scared, cautious, risk-averse, passive whatever one wants to label it has been the approach on defense in Green Bay for far too long and pre-dates worthless Joe. It is the principal reason that, no matter who is playing QB, the Packers fail in the playoffs.
Come on Matt, hire an aggressive coach to coordinate the D and let's get back to another Super Bowl for the first time in 14 years.
Does Jack Bauer have any coaching experience?
@SteveLuke posted:Scared, cautious, risk-averse, passive whatever one wants to label it has been the approach on defense in Green Bay for far too long and pre-dates worthless Joe. It is the principal reason that, no matter who is playing QB, the Packers fail in the playoffs.
Come on Matt, hire an aggressive coach to coordinate the D and let's get back to another Super Bowl for the first time in 14 years.
I totally agree that for far too long the defense in GB has been the problem. For whatever reason if the DC or the players change it is the same old thing. Here is hoping that the next DC hire puts an end to that shit and they have a true defense to go with an up and coming offense. If they can finally do that and this team stays healthy look out for them.
Whether it's true or not, Vic K would typically respond that the mentality in Green Bay was too soft for the team to play like an NFL defense. As a whole, the team is too well adjusted. The bane of Packer People.
Do you think Mayfield gets a perfect rating with that guy wearing the headset?
@Floridarob posted:Belichek probably wanted Rich McKay gone. Arthur loves Richie...
McKay is gone. Kicked upstairs.
@SteveLuke posted:If GB throws the kitchen sink at SF with 6:21 left and the Niners score a quick TD that would not have been ideal.
However, the Packers would still have plenty of time to come back on offense.
If GB throws the kitchen sink at SF with 6:21 and forces the Niners to punt or even better into a turnover that would have been ideal.
The absolute worst approach, and outcome, would have been to sit back cautiously and let SF take time off the clock while marching down the field. And that is precisely the approach Joe Barry took -- hoping Purdy would fold rather than asking his defensive players to make a play.
Scared, cautious, risk-averse, passive whatever one wants to label it has been the approach on defense in Green Bay for far too long and pre-dates worthless Joe. It is the principal reason that, no matter who is playing QB, the Packers fail in the playoffs.
Come on Matt, hire an aggressive coach to coordinate the D and let's get back to another Super Bowl for the first time in 14 years.
Situational Barry failed again? Shocker!
@Shadow posted:Whether it's true or not, Vic K would typically respond that the mentality in Green Bay was too soft for the team to play like an NFL defense. As a whole, the team is too well adjusted. The bane of Packer People.
It looked like the team was soft while AR was still in GB, the D's performance in the 2021 NFCCG notwithstanding. We heard that opinion from several HC's last year alone. Pass heavy teams in general tend to look softer while teams that run the ball consistently with success generally don't. Because it all starts with the lines. Drive blocking for the run vs. pass blocking.
But from my couch, that "aura" seemed to change the second half of this season. I saw a lot of guys getting after the other team at and sometimes after the whistle, rallying to have each other's backs and to step in when it looked like someone was getting ganged up on. On defense I can only guess that playing a preventative bend but don't break scheme would not lend itself to aggressive mindsets from the players. As soon as they went to man more often, they started tackling better and playing more physical. On offense, the same happened when they got their run game going
@ChilliJon posted:Joe Barry had 6:21 left in the 4th QTR to save his job up 4 against a 1 seed as a 7 seed on the road as a 7.5 point dog
instead of throwing the Kitchen Sink at a QB that had completed 57% of his passes to that point he went full turtle and MLF let it happen for 5 full minutes.
Im still not over last week. It’s gonna be a while. Fuck Barry and Fuck MLF for having his back way longer than he should have.
Pretty sure you wouldn't get anywhere near the field with a kitchen sink.
Even if you were the new owner.
@DH13 posted:It looked like the team was soft while AR was still in GB, the D's performance in the 2021 NFCCG notwithstanding. We heard that opinion from several HC's last year alone. Pass heavy teams in general tend to look softer while teams that run the ball consistently with success generally don't. Because it all starts with the lines. Drive blocking for the run vs. pass blocking.
But from my couch, that "aura" seemed to change the second half of this season. I saw a lot of guys getting after the other team at and sometimes after the whistle, rallying to have each other's backs and to step in when it looked like someone was getting ganged up on. On defense I can only guess that playing a preventative bend but don't break scheme would not lend itself to aggressive mindsets from the players. As soon as they went to man more often, they started tackling better and playing more physical. On offense, the same happened when they got their run game going
This.
@DH13 posted:It looked like the team was soft while AR was still in GB, the D's performance in the 2021 NFCCG notwithstanding. We heard that opinion from several HC's last year alone. Pass heavy teams in general tend to look softer while teams that run the ball consistently with success generally don't. Because it all starts with the lines. Drive blocking for the run vs. pass blocking.
But from my couch, that "aura" seemed to change the second half of this season. I saw a lot of guys getting after the other team at and sometimes after the whistle, rallying to have each other's backs and to step in when it looked like someone was getting ganged up on. On defense I can only guess that playing a preventative bend but don't break scheme would not lend itself to aggressive mindsets from the players. As soon as they went to man more often, they started tackling better and playing more physical. On offense, the same happened when they got their run game going
Fake tough. 
No matter who Lafleur picks as the next DC there will be a part of the fanbase that will disagree or be hesitant on the decision. Everyone take a deep breath and let’s assume Lafleur learned his lesson. We were 6 minutes away from the Championship game and he knows it.
— JDub🧀🏈 (@Lambeau4Lyfe) January 26, 2024
Think the organization and many of its fans (myself included) were surprised at seeing Love's SB window open so quickly. Does Gutey trade Rasul if he foresees the season playing out as it did?
Development of team occurred about a year ahead of schedule, IMO. My hope was to see the QB performing at the level he did next year.
I think Douglas gets traded regardless. Loved the guy and he played well in Buffalo but he was in an entirely different defense. He was getting burned this year in GB and I saw him getting burned more than once with Buffalo.
I've wondered if Douglas would make a better safety? He is physical, smart, and has playmaking ability, but a tad slow for a CB.
@Packiderm posted:I think Douglas gets traded regardless. Loved the guy and he played well in Buffalo but he was in an entirely different defense. He was getting burned this year in GB and I saw him getting burned more than once with Buffalo.
Douglas was traded because Gute knew he would be a cap casualty in the offseason and decided to get some draft capital for him instead of nothing when the Bills offered the pick.
Im still trying to figure what Rasul Douglas has to do with Chris Gizzi getting fired
Gizzi didn't massage Watson's hamstrings with unpastuerized sheep's milk because he let Rasul use it for making smoothies.
AR switched to whale milk during covid lockdown so it's definitely not his fault.
@andrewmertig: Based on two separate sources, Christian Parker is currently in Green Bay, and I’m being led to believe has been offered the Green Bay DC job. No word on if it has been accepted.
Pretty sad state of affairs when, on conference championship Sunday, I'm here wondering if my team has hired a new strength and conditioning coach.
Welcome Lester the Molester to Hawkeye Country! Let’s Ride!
Uuuuuge shoes to fill 
@ChilliJon posted:Joe Barry had 6:21 left in the 4th QTR to save his job up 4 against a 1 seed as a 7 seed on the road as a 7.5 point dog
instead of throwing the Kitchen Sink at a QB that had completed 57% of his passes to that point he went full turtle and MLF let it happen for 5 full minutes.
Im still not over last week. It’s gonna be a while. Fuck Barry and Fuck MLF for having his back way longer than he should have.
tHIS!!!!!! 
Clutch!
No other team has been there as much 🤷♂️
Damn. Almost twice many as anyone else. Jeebus! How many trophies have we pissed away?
I guess probably one each for Favre/Rodgers I'd consider 'pissed away'. But without playing alternate history with coaching hires who can really say? Farts in the wind, as the wise ones say.
The Packers have made progress in their pursuit of a new DC, but they still have stones to turn over. Meanwhile, a division rival might have just hit an inflection point.
— Jason B. Hirschhorn (@by_JBH) January 29, 2024
For @TheLeapGB: an update on the DC search and the NFC North's changing landscape.https://t.co/2L8RvXkgwL
I’m not surprised the #Packers DC search is being done by cloak and dagger while other teams are tweeting out their interviews.
— Peter Bukowski (@Peter_Bukowski) January 29, 2024
Last cycle, Jim Leonhard did an interview on turning down the job causing Matt LaFleur to have to publicly address having to hire his No. 2 choice.
Well, based on the new round of interviews this appears to be incorrect. I do apologize for anyone who was misled. This was a legit team source, so I’ll try to follow up and see what happened. But at the end of the day I was clearly wrong to post it. To clarify a few things (1/2) https://t.co/EA7bWI2GnH
— Andrew Mertig (@andrewmertig) January 30, 2024
Ravens DB coach now set to interview.
It seems MLF is really trying to get this one right. I like the patience
Young, up and coming candidates for the DC job in Green Bay?
Who wants an aggressive, innovative D that might actually get a key stop at the end of a game?
Yes please.
Get it done MLF ... and no to Staley.
@SteveLuke posted:Young, up and coming candidates for the DC job in Green Bay?
Who wants an aggressive, innovative D that might actually get a key stop at the end of a game?
Yes please.
Get it done MLF ... and no to Staley.
I really am liking that he is looking at young up and coming candidates from places like Baltimore where they have continued defensive success.
I want a coordinator who used controlled aggression that stresses the offense that forces them in to mistakes. Not sitting back hoping they don't get a big play.
Full known interview list up to 6:
— Andy Herman (@AndyHermanNFL) January 30, 2024
Christian Parker
Brandon Staley
Ayden Durde
Bobby Babich
Dennard Wilson
Zachary Orr
Just shot up to the top of the leaderboard alongside Christian Parker for DC candidates https://t.co/Qo2eDrrB3a
— Perri Goldstein (@perri_goldstein) January 30, 2024
Hopefully hiring a younger DC will have a better result than MLF hiring the younger special teams coach a few years ago. That did not end well..
Sometimes the league just does the evaluation for you! Dennard Wilson is the top secondary coach in the NFL and people from around the NFL are finally waking up and recognizing his “It Factor”. Whoever gets him will win big based off all the analytics and the tape watching! A… https://t.co/25SsTI5IMv
— Bobby DePaul (@bobby_depaul) January 30, 2024
Breece Hall....think the Packers could get him as eventual Aaron Jones replacement?? Maybe even in 2024? With a trade? 🤔😈
@Boris posted:Well, based on the new round of interviews this appears to be incorrect. I do apologize for anyone who was misled. This was a legit team source, so I’ll try to follow up and see what happened. But at the end of the day I was clearly wrong to post it. To clarify a few things (1/2) https://t.co/EA7bWI2GnH
— Andrew Mertig (@andrewmertig) January 30, 2024
Packers may have purposefully given out incorrect info in order to find rats and Mr Mertig has taken the bait. His “team sources” may not be team sources for long.
What about the other guy?? Maafi - Packers terminating 2 team employees?
If you wait too long, the guy you want is gone. Fine line.
@antooo posted:Nah, I think he's just fucking with Mertig to make him look bad.
In Metig's X account, he states:
"I hate condiments and people who call it a bubbler."
Who calls condiments a bubbler anyway? A drinking fountain....sure, it's a bubbler, but condiments?
Condiments are like ketchup & mustard, salt & pepper. Yeah I don't get that either. Maybe he meant condoms 😂🤭
Bubbler or drinking fountain ⛲..... Who GAF?!?
Sheesh....
https://www.packers.com/news/i...e-goal-is-attainable
some really good points in this story especially about Aaron Jones value as a blocker.
@BradyHenderson: Former Rams, Vikings and Seahawks QB Sean Mannion is ending his nine-year NFL playing career and has accepted a position on the Packers’ coaching staff, a source tells me. He’ll work with QBs and the passing game.
I’ve heard from several people over the last few years who said Mannion was destined to eventually coach because of his intelligence and understanding of the game. He’ll get that start in Green Bay after finishing last season on the Seahawks’ practice squad.
I hope Tom Clements is staying, but he is getting up there in years. Perhaps Mannion will be his assistant and learn from one of the best QB coaches for a year or two.
JSO is reporting that Jerry Montgomery (DL coach) will be interviewing with the Patriots? It's behind a paywall at JSO.
More on Jerry Montgomery:
@mattschneidman: Sources: Packers defensive line coach and run game coordinator Jerry Montgomery is not returning next season on Jeff Hafley’s staff. Montgomery has been with Green Bay since 2015 and already has multiple opportunities to coach elsewhere.
Don’t let the Applebees door hit you on yer way out! #newblood
Seriously tho, he must be good to have lasted that long, thanks Jerry.
Maybe Jerry didn't want the edge guys getting their hands dirty.
Tom Silverstein tweets that Tom Clements will be returning as QB coach for next season.
@DurangoDoug posted:I hope Tom Clements is staying, but he is getting up there in years. Perhaps Mannion will be his assistant and learn from one of the best QB coaches for a year or two.
I think I got it right.
When he hangs it up, Clements belongs in the Packer HOF
@ilcuqui posted:Tom Silverstein tweets that Tom Clements will be returning as QB coach for next season.
That’s huge! Not only will this help further development of Love but it also serves as an endorsement of his skills and potential by Clements. 👍
Plus he will also be working with Sean Clifford.
Can Clifford red-shirt for another twelve years?
Just think how much more he will be worth in 2025 when he is traded to the Jets to be their starting QB. Maybe we'll get that 1st rounder then.
@TomSilverstein: As new DC Jeff Hafley builds his staff, two #Packers defensive assistants who will not return are passing game coordinator Greg Williams and inside linebackers coach Kirk Olivadotti, a source said. Olivadotti will join the staff of new #Seahawks coach Mike McDonald.
I thought those guys did pretty decent Especially Olivadotti with McDuffie
McDuffie is a smart instinctual player but is athletically limited. Walker is the exact opposite. If we do play more 4 man fronts the ILBer's are going to have to be better vs. the run. Watching Wahle's game reviews, Walker and Campbell were not good at triggering vs. runs between the tackles. They would often be "catching" instead of attacking blockers 3-5 yards off the LOS.
@FLPACKER posted:They would often be "catching" instead of attacking blockers 3-5 yards off the LOS.
The AJ Hawk method
@FLPACKER posted:McDuffie is a smart instinctual player but is athletically limited. Walker is the exact opposite. If we do play more 4 man fronts the ILBer's are going to have to be better vs. the run. Watching Wahle's game reviews, Walker and Campbell were not good at triggering vs. runs between the tackles. They would often be "catching" instead of attacking blockers 3-5 yards off the LOS.
Here's where I do think they have to turn Quay into something like Parsons. Quay is fast, reasonably strong, and has quickness. Why put him way behind the LOS to wait for guys to get to him or make him run up to them? Get him closer to the LOS, send him after guys, let him blitz as well, and let him run down ballcarriers trying to get outside.
I always had the feeling Barry said, "This is the scheme. You're going to play here because I need one of those, no matter what your strengths and weaknesses are. And then when you miss, I'll blame you as being out of position." Square peg, round hole, and all that.
Exactly
We need to ensure someone gets him sorted out with the proper Italian deli’s in Milwaukee and Kenosha.
— Ryan Ziegler (@momedic9019) February 6, 2024
According to Rob Demovsky
The Packers have the last major piece to the new defensive staff now in place. Former Chargers DC Derrick Ansley will be the new pass game coordinator, per a source. There will likely be a few quality control or assistant position coaches added but all key positions are filled.
Ansley was DC under Staley in LA with previous stops at Titans and Raiders coaching DBs
Source: The Green Bay Packers are set to hire Miami (Ohio)’s Myles White as assistant wide receivers coach. He coached Miami’s wide receivers the past two seasons after stops at Stephen F. Austin and SMU. Football Scoop on it first.
— Adam Rittenberg (@ESPNRittenberg) February 7, 2024
Former Packer fan favorite Myles White.
Dude was destined to be a coach - he should have a blast working with this WR crew in Green Bay
I realize that GB has suddenly become a desired destination given all the young talant, but it looks to be a good staff:
If this staff produces as well as its pedigree suggests, the D may finally begin match potential to production.
On the offensive side, as a UDFA, Myles White will add some good experience and desire to the young WRs. He was with GB last year for two months as part of the diversity program. Sean Mannion as Clements' understudy is an inspired choice; many say the only reason he was employed as a player was because of how smert he is, plus he was on the Rams' roster when MLF was OC there. He becomes Clements' heir apparent, as the coming year may be Clements' last one.
It also begs to wonder how much control MLF had over the D staff to date. If he's willing to do a whole-hog makeover this year, does that mean Murphy/Gute kept really tight control over who MLF hired/fired in the past and they now trust MLF more? Or, is MLF feeling a whole lot more confident in his own abilities after having such good success without Rodgers?
@Boris posted:We need to ensure someone gets him sorted out with the proper Italian deli’s in Milwaukee and Kenosha.
— Ryan Ziegler (@momedic9019) February 6, 2024
Knowing WMM is dead man walking, LaFleur said fuck your silo shit.
Oghobaase is almost as fun to say as Fernando Francisco.
@DH13 posted:Oghobaase is almost as fun to say as Fernando.
Except I can say "Fernando".
@Boris posted:We need to ensure someone gets him sorted out with the proper Italian deli’s in Milwaukee and Kenosha.
— Ryan Ziegler (@momedic9019) February 6, 2024
Do they have a Satriale's Market in SE Wisconsin? Campanelli could have come from "The Sopranos" cast.
for your viewing pleasure, The Amazing Salvatore put together a nice collection of highlight reels to keep you entertained in the offseason
@Fandame posted:Here's where I do think they have to turn Quay into something like Parsons. Quay is fast, reasonably strong, and has quickness. Why put him way behind the LOS to wait for guys to get to him or make him run up to them? Get him closer to the LOS, send him after guys, let him blitz as well, and let him run down ballcarriers trying to get outside.
Where do you think Walker ends up in this defense? I actually have no idea if he's MLB, WLB, or OLB. Honestly it's been so long since we've been a 4-3 I've kind of forgot the requirements of each LB position.
@CUPackFan posted:Honestly it's been so long since we've been a 4-3 I've kind of forgot the requirements of each LB position.
Bernardo Harris.... CHAMPIONSHIP 🏆🤭
@CUPackFan posted:Where do you think Walker ends up in this defense?
He'll take Preston Smith's spot covering the #1 WR.
Quay needs to be attacking. Whatever position puts him in less read / react and more attack is where he needs to be.
Quay played spy vs. Bears to make sure Fields didn't run all over the place.
That worked very well and a lot of us called for it before that Bear game.
More of that please.
Wherever he plays, I don't want to see him in the old CMIII role where he just rushed the passer all the time. That worked for a bit, but running up into those big guys all the time took its toll by the end of each year on CMIII. If Hafley plays the 4-3 more like a 5-2, then I'd like to see Quay at one of the 2 LB positions. His job would vary: he could rush the QB, or cover a RB or TE (he's pretty fast), play spy as needed, or drop into coverage. One thing's for sure: he's more versatile than Smith, so he shouldn't be doing the same thing all the time. Make the QB have to account for him on every play.
Savage, Nixon, and Nijman all will become free agents as their contracts were not extended. Probably the right move but I thought they might keep Savage (and maybe Nixon too).
@R MaN posted:Probably the right move but I thought they might keep Savage (and maybe Nixon too).
Those 2 guys could be back depending how everything else shakes out in FA/Draft
I thought Nixon would be a good fit as back-up nickle and back up Safety as well as top KR. That would allow GB to keep (4) corners, (4) Safeties and have Nixon as the 5th DB for both positions.
@mattschneidman: The Packers are hiring 49ers assistant strength coach Aaron Hill as their new head of strength and conditioning, per source.
Hill with a Masters in Applied Kinesiology-Sport and Exercise Science. Certainly has the education needed to succeed.
Yeah...still no match for the Curves. Pickle juice dumdums around here.
Wow the Packers are trading for Patrick Mahomes and Ja’Marr Chase per The Athletic. Crazy.
— Andy Herman (@AndyHermanNFL) February 18, 2024
Continue to believe that the single biggest determinant of injury is luck.
@Iowacheese posted:Yeah...still no match for the Curves. Pickle juice dumdums around here.
Says the dumdum who thinks he knows more about COVID vaccines that the experts.
Guys, please don't politicize this. I don't care what you think about the vaccine. I just want to pick on IC.
What size Covid cheerleading outfit do you wear for the Government?
Guys, please don't politicize this. I don't care what you think about the vaccine. I just want to pick on GL
Why don’t you guys drop the act and just admit that you are in love with each other.
Guys, please don't politicize this. I don't care what you think about the vaccine. I just want to pick on everyone.
Take it PM, fellas
Gutey gonna get himself a top tier FA...IMO. Up to $50M available if they want.
Packers save
— Peter Bukowski (@Peter_Bukowski) February 22, 2024
- $20.9M Bakhtiari trade/cut
- $10.6M Post-June 1 Campbell
That's enough to give them plenty of financial flexibility.
But they'll also probably
- Restructure/Extend Jones
- Extend Kenny Clark
- Convert Jaire money
Can save 20+ more million.
.
Derrick Ansley is now the DB Coach / passing game coordinator for Hafley and this is a write-up on one of his pupils from the Chargers.
Safety Alohi Gilman is a free agent and the comments are from former GM Randy Mueller via The Athletic.
Would be nice to bring in a young yet vet safety.
Would be nice to pay back the Chargers for stealing our CB (Casey Hayward)
@Satori posted:.
Derrick Ansley is now the DB Coach / passing game coordinator for Hafley and this is a write-up on one of his pupils from the Chargers.
Safety Alohi Gilman is a free agent and the comments are from former GM Randy Mueller via The Athletic.
He's a Naval Academy guy, so you know he's smart, and he went on to play really well at Notre Dame.
Just remember that a weird amount of people that professionally cover sports look down on regular fans and almost despise them. It’s so bizarre
— Big Cat (@BarstoolBigCat) February 25, 2024
The Green Bay#Packers are expected to hire Oregon State’s Anthony Perkins as an assistant defensive backs coach
— Matt Zenitz (@mzenitz)February 29, 2024
Perkins, a former Colorado standout defensive back, produced eight all-conference selections during his time at Oregon State. Perkins previously worked in the NFL with the Buccaneers in 2017 and 2018 as an assistant to the head coach. pic.twitter.com/j8JDM31Szo
I'm not certain I want
on my coaching staff.
@Boris posted:Gutey gonna get himself a top tier FA...IMO. Up to $50M available if they want.
Packers save
— Peter Bukowski (@Peter_Bukowski) February 22, 2024
- $20.9M Bakhtiari trade/cut
- $10.6M Post-June 1 Campbell
That's enough to give them plenty of financial flexibility.
But they'll also probably
- Restructure/Extend Jones
- Extend Kenny Clark
- Convert Jaire money
Can save 20+ more million.
Or a fat extension for #10.
@Fedya posted:I'm not certain I want
on my coaching staff.
idk, it'd be kinda nice to have a psycho on the defensive side.
I don't want him driving the defense:
Hold on…
— James Is READY TO STAFF (@ScriptsByJames) March 11, 2024
Jordan Love, Josh Jacobs, Christian Watson, Jayden Reed, Luke Musgrave, Dontayvion Wicks, Romeo Doubs, Tucker Kraft, Elgton Jenkins
Jaire, Xavier McKinney, Rashan Gary, Kenny Clark, Luke VN, Quay Walker
Packers have one of the best young cores in the NFL. pic.twitter.com/i4P7CwD2PD
I wouldn’t exactly consider Kenny Clark “young”
Isn't he still like 23 years old? He seems eternally young.
I had looked up KC's contract details last night.
He's currently 28, turns 29 Oct. 04.
He might be "the old man" on the team now...
Ummmm.....ok 🫡
Fast forward to 2022, 2023 season I tried to be a team guy and play within the system and do what they asked “Be more visual on QB and not look up routes” “Back up from LOS so I’m not pressing every WR or TE” Look at what happened. They had me, Quay out there looking clueless smh
— De'Vondre Campbell (@Came_Along_Way) March 17, 2024
Well then....I expect to see him return to All-Pro form
The organization didn’t even call me to ask if I wanted to take a pay cut. They just released me after going in the media and saying me and Aaron jones were apart of the future plans. They could’ve just told me the truth. I could easily be bitter but I’m not. https://t.co/f9Wvqbgiqv
— De'Vondre Campbell (@Came_Along_Way) March 17, 2024
Just hoping the defense staff is what had 23 upset last year and not unhappiness about wanting a new contract.
If he was still able to play at an All-Pro level, he'd be on this team in this new defense.
In the NFL....your career can fall off a cliff very quickly. It sucks and wish the guys could all play for 15-20 years. It's just not reality.
Rasul backs his boy....as expected. These guys are good peeps. Wish we could keep them all.
Of course Devondre will look like Fred Warner in that Niner defense now
I’m already knowing Brodie 😂😂 . https://t.co/0XCtBJcjO6
— rasul (@RasulEra) March 17, 2024
Disgruntled employees. And former employees. I’m sure that’s never happened in the history of ever
Rasul's career was largely because Gutey took a risk on him. Packers paid Campbell well for a couple seasons and had one good year from him.
Both got paid because of the Packers so if they are disgruntled, so be it. More clowns for the circus.
You just can’t have players not following the scheme (even if the scheme is flawed). It messes everything up for everyone else. Sounds very selfish to me. Now I’m glad he’s gone.
@Benzene posted:. Now I’m glad he’s gone.
I get what you're saying....but what I had been saying since before start of 2023 was Barry not putting guys in best positions to succeed. Follow the scheme.....follow the scheme.....
Sometimes as a coach you need to understand what works well for the player and (GASP) ADJUST your scheme to get maximum results. This is what a good coach does!
It sounds to me like Hafley is going to do exactly what I just said.
We'll see on Sundays this year 😉
@Boris posted:If he was still able to play at an All-Pro level, he'd be on this team in this new defense.
In the NFL....your career can fall off a cliff very quickly. It sucks and wish the guys could all play for 15-20 years. It's just not reality.
You really want to see 15 years of AJ Hawk or Ahmad Carroll?
Hey, I can't blame Campbell for saying he and Quay weren't in the right spots and looked lost. We all said the same thing all year long. But, Campbell has to take some ownership for his attitude, lack of speed, and missing tackles. If he had the ability to do what Hafley is going to ask of the LBs, Campbell would still be in GB.
@Fandame posted:Hey, I can't blame Campbell for saying he and Quay weren't in the right spots and looked lost. We all said the same thing all year long. But, Campbell has to take some ownership for his attitude, lack of speed, and missing tackles. If he had the ability to do what Hafley is going to ask of the LBs, Campbell would still be in GB.
This is the difference between Quay and Campbell. Campbell went on a rant on Twitter and took his ball and went home. Quay kept it professional and just played ball. They were in the same situation, but Quay acted like a man and De'Vondre acted like a child.
This reminds me of an exchange Quay had with a reporter last season:
Reporter: Lots of people on social media taking jabs at the defense.
Quay: Yeah I don't pay attention to Twitter and all that, I'm just focused on work and getting better.
Reporter: Seems like De'Vondre pays a lot of attention to Twitter.
Quay: Yeah, and that's the problem.
This.
imagine if brock bowers is there in rd1 and we take him...that's bordering on not fair...like the tush push. 
I want him.
"Greed, for the lack of a better word, is good". Gordon Gekko
greed sucks and greed kills
Breaking my heart 💝 over here
@pkr_north posted:imagine if brock bowers is there in rd1 and we take him...that's bordering on not fair...like the tush push.
Welcome to the use of 13 personnel being wildly used in the NFL for the next 5 years.
#Packers hire Todd Hunt as assistant strength & conditioning coach.
— Green Bay Packers (@packers) March 20, 2024
📰: https://t.co/FwDHdE4JI1 #GoPackGo pic.twitter.com/4HC1xHmxcM
Former Fresno State Bulldog Todd Hunt! Hand-Picked to work for former Badger Joey Boese at one point!
I don't get it.
@Tavis Smiley posted:I don't get it.
Say it out loud. Old joke.
@YATittle posted:Say it out loud. Old joke.
Thanks YA
@Chongo posted:#Packers hire Todd Hunt as assistant strength & conditioning coach.
— Green Bay Packers (@packers) March 20, 2024
📰: https://t.co/FwDHdE4JI1 #GoPackGo pic.twitter.com/4HC1xHmxcMFormer Fresno State Bulldog Todd Hunt! Hand-Picked to work for former Badger Joey Boese at one point!
How does he feel about pickle juice to solve all that ails?
Not to rain on the sophomoric parade, but I actually grew up and went to school with a Mike Hunt. Died in a deer hunting accident when he was about 19. Real tragedy...he was a hell of a good young man.
Interesting story on our OL situation.
Great analysis of that fool Joe Barry.
Odds to win NFC North
https://twitter.com/NFLHitman3...ing-injury-update%2F
Christian Watsons dad gives a hammy update.
Thanks, Goldie Krete!
Sorry, KK, I couldn't resist. This was posted in the 'Christian Watson' thread some days back.
But, I have a thought on Watson's hammies.
I think he should consider taking ballet lessons. Lynn Swann and Herschel Walker did, and I'd say they had good results.
Nothing to lose, and can't hurt to try.
So.... yeah!
Owners ban Hip-Drop tackle. The fine will be 15 yards and an automatic 1st Down.
Don’t necessarily disagree with this rule change, but man it is tough playing defense in this league.
This one seemed like a no brainer. Rugby banned this tackle because it was so dangerous. NFL said it was 20-25 times more likely to cause an injury than a regular tackle. No idea if that's accurate but watching a hip drop tackle in full speed, hard to argue it causes a significantly higher rate of injury. Owners just don't want to see their $20m WR go down with season ending injury. WRs fuel fantasy football and gambling, which seem to be driving most of the interest in the NFL these days.
People seem up in arms about calling it on the field properly but it seems pretty straightforward to me. NFL refs seem to call the horse collar tackle correctly, so why would a hip drop tackle be so much harder?
Players, coaches, fans, announcers, pundits, etc. will all be in agreement when a clear "hip-drop tackle" is called a penalty.
Players, coaches, fans, announcers, pundits, etc. will all be in agreement when it's clear a tackle was NOT a "hip-drop tackle" is called a NOT penalty.
Players, coaches, fans, announcers, pundits, etc. will all go ape shit when there's a grey area hip-drop tackle and it's called "improperly".....just like "not obvious" PI, roughing face masks, etc.
@Goalline posted:Don’t necessarily disagree with this rule change, but man it is tough playing defense in this league.
So when a defender grabs and twists them into the ground....Is this allowed?? Seattle does this and so do the Packers sometimes.
Honestly, they should just play flag football. No tackling at all
I predict fans will love the new rule when their team benefits from it and hate when it goes against them.
@Pikes Peak posted:I predict fans will love the new rule when their team benefits from it and hate when it goes against them.
I’m the new president of the NFL Sadists Club, and we just formed a motion to censure your post.
@Goalline posted:I’m the new president of the NFL Sadists Club, and we just formed a motion to censure your post.
Your election was rigged
@Pikes Peak posted:Your election was rigged
That’s the nicest thing you’ve ever said about me.😊
I think he meant erection.
Low hanging fruit.
That's just nadsty.
NFL approves adding a challenge if....
@mrtundra posted:Owners ban Hip-Drop tackle. The fine will be 15 yards and an automatic 1st Down.
Thumbs down to this new rule/penalty, not you personally.
It's hard to not acknowledge the 'intent', player safety, blah, blah, blah.
I just see it as something that will be called wildly inconsistent as are RTP, PI, or other calls that are subject to a refs interpretation.
In any case, we all ("me") had better learn to recognize these tackles, and how they are called. The coaches better get a handle on this ASAP. Ditto the players.
We need another safety named Lee Roy or some variant of the name.
