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Lyles has a 5.34 ERA in over 700 career innings (all in the NL). Did they expect that he would all of sudden become a competent MLB pitcher? I maybe understand seeing if he can burn some innings for you when you are down 3-0. But why is he out there after they pull within 3-2? After a day off? 

Did I miss something? Is Hader hurt? He hasn't pitched in 6 days. If he's available to pitch, letting Lyles go back out of for the 8th is criminally negligent. 

Trying to stay optimistic but it’s getting harder and harder. Crew is about as bipolar a baseball team as there is. When it’s going good they can beat anybody when’s it not well this is what the last 2-3 weeks looks like

They seem to be running out of gas 

I like Stearns but there’s only so much you can expect from prospects and second tier guys.   

They needed another established arm especially if they knew Nelson wasn’t coming back this year 

 

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I just wish there was more in the pipeline to get excited for.  Only 2 top 100 prospects for the Brewers and one of them is already on the roster in Burnes.  Hiura will help, but he's not going to help the pitching.  The only Ace type guy we had was Nelson and there's no guarantee he'll ever be that good ever again.

Hooefully some other prospects will emerge, but if not, they're going to have to restock the minors a bit.

I would be curious to know if they made an actual play for DeGrom.  Certainly it would have cost them at least Burnes or Peralta (maybe both) but dude is an ace and is under control for a couple of more seasons.   No question he could have helped them now.  

This is the risk when you lean heavily on the “build from within” strategy and place an extreme value on your prospects.   To me, Hiura is the only untouchable guy and we’ve seen inconsistencies with Burnes and more so with Peralta. 

Oh well,  there’s always next year.  No one expected Milwaukee to be competitive this soon-  which is the Brewers standing excuse for why or why not to make more bold moves. 

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Makes sense to me, EKB. 

DeGrom - proven and dominant for several years at the MLB level.

Hiura - Brewers #1 prospect, just like Brinson, Arcia, Tyrone Taylor(??), Thornburg, and Wily Peralta to name a few in the past few years.

Degromme is under control through next year like Greinke was. The time to get him was this year. They might be trying to wait out the heavy price but even if they do I don’t think it’s enough now. 

Tschmack posted:

This is the risk when you lean heavily on the “build from within” strategy and place an extreme value on your prospects.  

The strategy has worked for St. Louis.  the lineups they have trotted out there lately have only 2 guys who have come in from the outside.  Of the new starting pitchers this year, one came from Japan (and has worked out), and the others are from within - except for Norris (signed in the off season) in the bull pen.  Of those from the system Weaver seems to be doing the worst - and likely the first to go back down when the 3 vets come back, the rest are at least serviceable (so far).  Wainwright (trade with Atlanta in 2005?), Martinez (thru the system), and Wacha (spell? thru the system) - all starters - have been hurt but are about to come back.  But there bull pen has been terrible until they brought up prospects from Memphis.  They have been tough to score on since.  Hicks and Hudson have ERAs of around 1.  Must have good water in Memphis - or something.  And they have more pitchers in the minors looking for a major league chance.  There is always talk down here that they should package this group or that group of pitchers for so and so.  But to be fair there are some players who don't work out to be what they needed from them at the major league level and it doesn't take them long to get them a new home.  
  

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